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Ozempic getting popular?

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Onand · 04/06/2024 23:03

2 separate friends told me today they are on Ozempic. 1 I can understand why because she has struggled with weight for a few years now and dieting doesn’t work for her but the other has gone from a 10 😑 to a 6 😐.

I know of others on it too but they’re wealthy clients o it’s not as surprising they’re on it. Is it actually being used more than I naively thought and not just for Hollywood types? I didn’t realise it was so easy to get. Is it safe?

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Snowpaw · 05/06/2024 18:04

The fact it costs nearly £200 per month...I just think, if you have that money to throw at your weight loss attempts why not pay a personal trainer? Improve your health / longevity / weight / mood etc with no adverse side effects.

Gr3yH3art · 05/06/2024 18:10

I’m worried about the checks of suitability for this and the danger of it causing EDs. A starved brain can become entrenched very quickly. I already know of a young ND young person with body dysmorphia who has managed to get hold of it- literally the worst type of patient to prescribe it to. How was this deemed ok?

PrimalLass · 05/06/2024 18:42

Snowpaw · 05/06/2024 18:04

The fact it costs nearly £200 per month...I just think, if you have that money to throw at your weight loss attempts why not pay a personal trainer? Improve your health / longevity / weight / mood etc with no adverse side effects.

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If you have metabolic difficulties with losing weight a personal trainer won't help.

Franticbutterfly · 05/06/2024 19:33

It is getting popular. I hear of more people taking it all the time.

I'm also pretty sure people think I'm on it. I'm not.

Snowpaw · 05/06/2024 19:34

PrimalLass · 05/06/2024 18:42

🙄

If you have metabolic difficulties with losing weight a personal trainer won't help.

I do, I have PCOS and I've improved my symptoms substantially through regular strength training. I've reversed my insulin resistance through increasing muscle mass.

EmeraldRoulette · 05/06/2024 19:35

Franticbutterfly · 05/06/2024 19:33

It is getting popular. I hear of more people taking it all the time.

I'm also pretty sure people think I'm on it. I'm not.

So you have a happy story of regular weight loss? I like to hear those!

Franticbutterfly · 05/06/2024 19:39

@EmeraldRoulette

Yes. I lost 70lbs last year. When people ask me how, I feel like I disappoint them when I say that I did it by fasting/generally not eating very much and eating low carb. Then they look suspicious. Especially since they know I used to be diabetic (which was what it was all about anyway).

EmeraldRoulette · 05/06/2024 21:40

@Franticbutterfly Hey, that's great, I'm impressed!

I was feeling quite ranty today listening to stuff about people being bound to fail, so thank you for sharing.

I'm sorry people are suspicious, I should gird myself for that i guess, if I lose as much as I'd like.

Franticbutterfly · 05/06/2024 23:01

EmeraldRoulette · 05/06/2024 21:40

@Franticbutterfly Hey, that's great, I'm impressed!

I was feeling quite ranty today listening to stuff about people being bound to fail, so thank you for sharing.

I'm sorry people are suspicious, I should gird myself for that i guess, if I lose as much as I'd like.

@EmeraldRoulette

It's definitely doable. My only advice is to keep doing it every day. Sounds simple but saying no to yourself every day is hard. It's gets easier though.

silverneedle · 05/06/2024 23:18

I think the killer side effect is that if you stop taking it, you put the weight back on plus more.

The Zoe podcast last year interviewed Dr Robert Kushner who has done research trials on semaglutide (ozempic etc). He believes you have to take the injections for life as his studies show people regain the weight loss over 1-5 years when they stop taking the injection. He is not against this but does warn it’s a lifelong medication as obesity is a chronic disease and if you stop taking the medication, there's a high likelihood the obesity will come back. Hypertension, asthma, or diabetes are chronic medical problems that you take medication for long term, obesity he views in the same category.

You regain the weight because when you come off the injection your body will be fighting to get back to its set point at a higher weight through increasing hunger hormones and suppressing satiating hormones. So if you have to remain on it for life if you don’t want to re gain the weight, it’s a considerable financial commitment if a person has to fund privately for life.

From the podcast transcript:

Dr. Will Bulsiewicz: “With regards to what you were just talking about, you just published a paper on this specific topic, which is weight regain after discontinuing the drug.

You published it in October of 2022, and I found it to be very interesting. There was one particular graph in the paper where you could see the weight coming back, and it appears to me that eventually, everyone gets back to almost the same baseline. So it's almost like the baseline that was established before you started the drug is where your body thinks you're supposed to be. Do you have any thoughts on that?

[00:39:23] Dr. Robert Kushner: Yeah, what you're referring to is the step one extension trial. And, just to bring all listeners up to, speed, we took about 300 individuals who were in that step trial that we described before the 68-week trial and follow them for a year, with no intervention.

Just follow them as if they stop taking it. And what we found will at the end of one year, is that individuals on average regained two-thirds of the weight that they lost over that first year. And if we follow them long enough, they would probably get back to baseline, which is what you're saying. So that speaks to this whole idea that there's a biological set point.

That's a new term we're introducing today in the podcast. A set point that the brain has of where you ought to be. That gets back to that whole famine and starvation concept I talked about before. So the body doesn't forget. It's under the category of unfair. But the body, the brain doesn't quite forget where you started, and it works its way very slowly over one to probably five years to get you back to where you were. Now you can introduce change in your, diet. Again, reduce calories, and increase physical activity. Drive the body weight down again. But again, over time it's likely to go up. Will, we see this in animal studies all the time. We change the rat chow. We change how many times, they're on the treadmill and the rats go back to the weight that they started at.

And we are biological beings, and our bodies behave in very similar ways. There are only two interventions that I am aware of. That changed this set point of where the brain thinks you ought to be. One is medications. We're talking about that today. The other is bariatric surgery.

It’s worth reading the transcript for full details. https://zoe.com/learn/podcast-can-ozempic-semaglutide-solve-weight-loss

ZOE Podcast: Can Ozempic (Semaglutide) Solve Weight Loss?

Jonathan speaks to Dr. Robert Kushner, the lead investigator of a huge recent trial, about whether semaglutide really is a game-changing treatment for obesity.

https://zoe.com/learn/podcast-can-ozempic-semaglutide-solve-weight-loss

PrimalLass · 05/06/2024 23:35

@Snowpaw and weight loss? I'm hypothyroid and have been for 25 years. Exercise has never made much of a difference to my weight.

MetaphorsBeWithYou · 01/07/2024 18:50

I’ve been on it for 18 months and I’ve lost 3 stone. I get Wegovy from Juniper for £200 per month. My BMI was 30 when I started. Post menopause, I’d gone from a size 12 to an 18, mostly because of ravenous hunger. I’ve never admitted to a living soul that I’m on it. I do have a bit of “Ozempic face”. I’ve lost volume and I have to put concealer under my eyes because I have acquired dark circles. It’s not an easy option by any means. For the first 8 weeks, my side effects were outrageous. I’m very worried about coming off it and regaining the weight.

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