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Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

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Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:49

My boyfriend of 3 years is having issues with my DD (14). She is most likely on the autism spectrum and I am going through the route of assesment for her.

She likes schedules, predictability and time alone. She struggles socially to make friends and feels very alone at school. She gets easily overwhelmed with too much noise or stimulation and is very emotional and cries everyday. She doesn’t like to do much and her preferred choice of activity would be sitting around painting or watching tv. She also has some mild learning difficulties, so struggles with her schoolwork. She often doesn’t know the ‘right’ thing to say and her conversations can be strange and odd at times. She people pleased in my opinion which means we often all get different individual versions of events and she often lies in small ways. Overall she is a good kid with a kind heart.

Her dad (who left when she was a baby) is a very wealthy man, but a terrible parent who has little to nothing to do with her other than to criticise her family and especially me and my DBF. He will sees her a few times a year for a meal and calls her now and again to ask what I am up to and put me and her siblings, or even her, down.

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her. To be fair her dad is always telling her what we are providing isn’t enough, the holidays aren’t good enough and we aren’t traveling first class, like he does. She doesn’t have a filter and just shares this with us. Not as her view but as her dads.
I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

DBF has started saying DD is spoiling everyone’s fun as she struggles with sensory overload on car journeys or trips away. She gets teary and upset over the noise (we have two other younger children) and doesn’t want to be touched by her siblings or to be in the car too long. I find ways to manage it with her. We plan out timings so she knows how long we are in the car for, we plan our days on holiday so she knows what activities to expect. She tries her best but can’t help sometimes feeling overwhelmed and then cries.

She doesn’t like to exercise and struggles with her confidence with many things.

He thinks she is spoiling the activities for everyone else as she looks miserable. She’s simply trying to join in and not make a fuss as best she can. She can’t help it if she isn’t enjoying it!

He says she is entitled as she prefers luxury and she’s making a scene because she wants to be on a luxury holiday and not a budget one. I know her and that’s not the case. She just struggles with the sheer amount of activities and lack of relaxation that is on holidays with DBF and the other children. If I were given an option of a relaxing beach trip to the Maldives or a camping site I would choose the Maldives hands down, no questions asked too! I’m not ungrateful!

She acts like a much younger child and he will always focus on the fact that she is 14 and should be behaving in a certain way.

Sometimes he makes a real effort with her and is great. Then others, he has no patience and moody as ever and ignores her.

He says he doesn’t have anything in common with her. Sometimes he doesn’t engage in conversation with her and answers her questions in one word answers. Doesn’t ask how her day was, nothing. And when I confront him about it he say he isn’t being horrible to her or saying anything mean. In my opinion he is basically pretending she doesn’t exist.

So the thing that gets to me the most is we can be having a discussion, say about how nice the weekend was, and he will then interject with something negative like, ‘we’ll your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste.

On holiday last week they were alone for a few minutes at a lovely restaurant I had booked as a treat for DD and they had a conversation when I was in the ladies room. Everything was perfectly fine before this. The rest of the meal was silence and he didn’t talk to me or DD at all other than responding to my questions with grunts or single words, without actually looking at me. He complained about the food and just said he hated it and wanted to leave. He wouldn’t tell me why until later.

Turns out it was because DD had mentioned she really likes eating out at nice restaurants like the one we were in and that’s the best part of her holidays. (She a massive foodie and it’s her passion) he said it felt like she only wanted luxury things and she was, his words, ‘shitting on the rest of the holiday.’

He had no understanding of the fact that she is most likely autistic and that her brain doesn’t work quite like his. He says that it’s no excuse to behave as she does.

He has recently been let go from his job so is struggling with that and other stressful situations, so he is more moody than usual at the moment.

So is my kid a brat or is he? I just need some outside views on the situation. Thank you.

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

OP posts:
VisitationRights · 04/06/2024 11:40

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:57

I am at a place where I am weighing up the relationship based on how he is with my DD. He can be good with her at times and it goes along fine for a little while and then something comes up and we are back here. His dislike for her has shown up slowly and it’s only really just hit me how bad it’s become after the holiday.

It takes strength to leave, I know that, but his attitude and actions are so damaging to your child it is not fixable, you have to get her away from him.

it is good to hear from your update that you don’t have a child with him, that means you can make a clean break.

AhNowTed · 04/06/2024 11:40

OP seriously, why would you subject your daughter to counselling with some bloke.

That's all he is to her.

Don't foist your man child boyfriend onto her.

Leave her alone.

And tell that prick she is absolutely none of his business.

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:40

Ghostgirl77 · 04/06/2024 11:28

He’s had three years to consider this and he’s still being an arse to her. He’s not going to change now.

I’ve noticed a change in his attitude towards her over the past 6 months. He was great with her and I thought he could really be a good male figure in her life. It all seemed to change when his finances/ job became unstable and he changed his attitude.

OP posts:
Faduckssake · 04/06/2024 11:40

Nottherealslimshady · 04/06/2024 10:53

Your boyfriend doesn't like your child. So you leave him. It's very simple.

Absolutely ☝️ this. He sounds like an arsehole.

TheSnowyOwl · 04/06/2024 11:41

If you daughter is autistic then having your BF around is probably even harder for her and adding to her struggles.

It saddens me that you even have to ask to see who you should be prioritising here. I hope your DD is getting the proper support that she needs from someone.

kitteninabasket · 04/06/2024 11:42

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:40

I’ve noticed a change in his attitude towards her over the past 6 months. He was great with her and I thought he could really be a good male figure in her life. It all seemed to change when his finances/ job became unstable and he changed his attitude.

So he uses your daughter like an emotional punch bag then? What a catch.

CaveMum · 04/06/2024 11:42

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:40

I’ve noticed a change in his attitude towards her over the past 6 months. He was great with her and I thought he could really be a good male figure in her life. It all seemed to change when his finances/ job became unstable and he changed his attitude.

Then at a bare minimum tell him that you need a break until he has sorted himself out as you cannot allow him to take his situation out on a child.

Preferably make it a permanent break.

liverpoolgal82 · 04/06/2024 11:43

So if you’d been watching aeroplanes and she loved aeroplanes and told him that it was the best bit about the holiday would he then also think she meant the rest of the holiday was rubbish? I don’t get his logic. He goes on about that she should act 14 while he acts like a six year old. How have you not got serious ick? The lack of understanding about a disability would ick me out , especially from someone unwilling to learn or research about her possible disability.
If she couldn’t walk would he also be saying she’s ruined the holiday because she can’t walk up all the steps with you.

Honestly give this one back, it’s drying me up reading about him. Autism is very hard to deal with, my teen son has it but it’s not their fault and we can’t show them how some things frustrates us , it’s not fair on them , we learn as we go as long but giving the silent treatment in these instances are abusive.

I bet your daughter will be a lot happier without all the eggs shells she must be treading on.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 04/06/2024 11:44

Get rid of the boyfriend !

Your daughter is a child and should be your first priority, along with your other child.

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 04/06/2024 11:45

I wouldn't be giving him a chance to do better. He's already done enough damage. Get rid of him, he's a horrid, abusive, controlling wanker.

What on earth are you doing expecting her to navigate his behaviour and not set him off? She's 14! He's trying to coercively control her, and you. Get her out of that environment now.

How dare he stop her speaking about her own father, in her own house?! A house he doesn't even live in! Not that that would make it remotely OK if he did.

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:45

EmilyTjP · 04/06/2024 11:37

I agree with this.

I don’t think it’s as simple as which one is the brat.
Whilst I think he needs to stop the moodiness and understand she’s a teenager, I’m afraid your DD doesn’t sound very easy to live with either.

Why doesn’t her own dad fulfil these luxury needs?

By all means DD is not easy to live with. She’s a teenager!

She doesn’t have luxury needs, her dad is just trying to cause trouble in her/ our lives by telling her that we (specifically DBF) should be taking her on luxury trips. DD doesn’t even really like holidays. If she had her way she would stay at home and paint or cook.

Her dad doesn’t even take her away or do anything nice with her. He’s just making trouble as best he can and seems to be able to push DBF’s buttons very easily.

OP posts:
InterIgnis · 04/06/2024 11:47

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:45

By all means DD is not easy to live with. She’s a teenager!

She doesn’t have luxury needs, her dad is just trying to cause trouble in her/ our lives by telling her that we (specifically DBF) should be taking her on luxury trips. DD doesn’t even really like holidays. If she had her way she would stay at home and paint or cook.

Her dad doesn’t even take her away or do anything nice with her. He’s just making trouble as best he can and seems to be able to push DBF’s buttons very easily.

So you’ll tolerate him treating your daughter like shit in order to stick it to your ex and not let him ‘win’?

That would make you a shit parent tbh.

kitteninabasket · 04/06/2024 11:47

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:45

By all means DD is not easy to live with. She’s a teenager!

She doesn’t have luxury needs, her dad is just trying to cause trouble in her/ our lives by telling her that we (specifically DBF) should be taking her on luxury trips. DD doesn’t even really like holidays. If she had her way she would stay at home and paint or cook.

Her dad doesn’t even take her away or do anything nice with her. He’s just making trouble as best he can and seems to be able to push DBF’s buttons very easily.

I’m not sure why you’ve started this thread as it’s clear you’re not going to leave him.

somethingwickedlivesnextdoor · 04/06/2024 11:48

You should end the relationship. Your dd should come first. The current situation is no good for her.

crackofdoom · 04/06/2024 11:49

Cheeesus · 04/06/2024 11:05

He sounds awful and you’re trying to manage the best for her.

Also, I don’t see any spoilt bratness on her part, but if there were, that’s very normal at that age!
eg best way I can explain it is with a funny - https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/why-france-doesnt-count-as-a-foreign-holiday-by-a-14-year-old-whose-parents-dragged-her-there-last-week-20240603248321

So you need to tolerate some of that without reading too much into it.

That is hilarious, and I'm saving it for reference on this year's French holiday with my 14 year old 😆

Italianita · 04/06/2024 11:49

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therejustbarely · 04/06/2024 11:50

I bet your DD will be able to cope with her life MUCH better if this man is no longer in it.

OolongTeaDrinker · 04/06/2024 11:50

My god, what is wrong with you to even be allowing this man anywhere near your daughter??

CandyLeBonBon · 04/06/2024 11:51

Your daughter needs to come first. Autism is hard to deal with sometimes but I'm afraid as her parent, you have to suck it up and make sure her life isn't made harder because your boyfriend can't cope. He sounds awful.

crackofdoom · 04/06/2024 11:51

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:45

By all means DD is not easy to live with. She’s a teenager!

She doesn’t have luxury needs, her dad is just trying to cause trouble in her/ our lives by telling her that we (specifically DBF) should be taking her on luxury trips. DD doesn’t even really like holidays. If she had her way she would stay at home and paint or cook.

Her dad doesn’t even take her away or do anything nice with her. He’s just making trouble as best he can and seems to be able to push DBF’s buttons very easily.

I think your DD sounds lovely. Quite similar to my (awaiting an autism assessment) 9 year old, who enjoys a quiet afternoon reading or making things out of cardboard boxes.

His dad, too, enjoys regaling the kids with stories of the luxury holidays he's been on without taking them bloody anywhere. Oh no I lie, he took them to the Pontins at Brean Sands one February half term 😬. They vow never to return.

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:52

FineWordsButterNoParsnips · 04/06/2024 11:27

Dating a bloke you feel the need to keep the peace with is bad enough, but to inflict the man on your kids is quite shocking.

Your posts are upsetting to read, as the daughter of a woman who involved me as a child and teen with her appalling taste in males, please do better. The man's words, thoughts are irrelevant, he should have been dumped long ago.

Thank you for sharing your story.
I don’t quite know how I’ve ended up slowly managing the peace and got to a point where it is affecting my DD like this.

Obviously a lot of what he says is just to me about how he feels/ perceived her attitude to be. She doesn’t know what’s going on. However she can’t understand why he can be moody with her at times.

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LittleBitAlexisLaLaLaLaLa · 04/06/2024 11:52

I don’t think your daughter sounds like a brat- certainly no more than any other person her age- but your boyfriend definitely sounds like one. How long has he been acting like a moody fucking penis for? He seems determined to look for the absolute worst in your daughter who is not only a child but doesn’t have the social skills to defend herself or explain her side of things effectively and twist it all to be negative. I wouldn’t and couldn’t put up with my husband (who isn’t the father of my 2 eldest who both have ASD) treating my children like that.

AhNowTed · 04/06/2024 11:53

OP if you are expecting your daughter to modify her behaviour to spare his pathetic ego, you are absolutely ridiculous.

ARichtGoodDram · 04/06/2024 11:53

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:45

By all means DD is not easy to live with. She’s a teenager!

She doesn’t have luxury needs, her dad is just trying to cause trouble in her/ our lives by telling her that we (specifically DBF) should be taking her on luxury trips. DD doesn’t even really like holidays. If she had her way she would stay at home and paint or cook.

Her dad doesn’t even take her away or do anything nice with her. He’s just making trouble as best he can and seems to be able to push DBF’s buttons very easily.

Her Dad being a dick doesn’t make it ok for your BF to be just slightly less of a dick (as you seem to think he is - I think he’s worse).

Your daughter is worth better than the treatment either of them are giving her.

And she deserves better than you facilitating the treatment your BF gives her.

TinyYellow · 04/06/2024 11:53

Your boyfriend is a dick and you need to remove him from your daughters life.

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