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Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

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Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:49

My boyfriend of 3 years is having issues with my DD (14). She is most likely on the autism spectrum and I am going through the route of assesment for her.

She likes schedules, predictability and time alone. She struggles socially to make friends and feels very alone at school. She gets easily overwhelmed with too much noise or stimulation and is very emotional and cries everyday. She doesn’t like to do much and her preferred choice of activity would be sitting around painting or watching tv. She also has some mild learning difficulties, so struggles with her schoolwork. She often doesn’t know the ‘right’ thing to say and her conversations can be strange and odd at times. She people pleased in my opinion which means we often all get different individual versions of events and she often lies in small ways. Overall she is a good kid with a kind heart.

Her dad (who left when she was a baby) is a very wealthy man, but a terrible parent who has little to nothing to do with her other than to criticise her family and especially me and my DBF. He will sees her a few times a year for a meal and calls her now and again to ask what I am up to and put me and her siblings, or even her, down.

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her. To be fair her dad is always telling her what we are providing isn’t enough, the holidays aren’t good enough and we aren’t traveling first class, like he does. She doesn’t have a filter and just shares this with us. Not as her view but as her dads.
I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

DBF has started saying DD is spoiling everyone’s fun as she struggles with sensory overload on car journeys or trips away. She gets teary and upset over the noise (we have two other younger children) and doesn’t want to be touched by her siblings or to be in the car too long. I find ways to manage it with her. We plan out timings so she knows how long we are in the car for, we plan our days on holiday so she knows what activities to expect. She tries her best but can’t help sometimes feeling overwhelmed and then cries.

She doesn’t like to exercise and struggles with her confidence with many things.

He thinks she is spoiling the activities for everyone else as she looks miserable. She’s simply trying to join in and not make a fuss as best she can. She can’t help it if she isn’t enjoying it!

He says she is entitled as she prefers luxury and she’s making a scene because she wants to be on a luxury holiday and not a budget one. I know her and that’s not the case. She just struggles with the sheer amount of activities and lack of relaxation that is on holidays with DBF and the other children. If I were given an option of a relaxing beach trip to the Maldives or a camping site I would choose the Maldives hands down, no questions asked too! I’m not ungrateful!

She acts like a much younger child and he will always focus on the fact that she is 14 and should be behaving in a certain way.

Sometimes he makes a real effort with her and is great. Then others, he has no patience and moody as ever and ignores her.

He says he doesn’t have anything in common with her. Sometimes he doesn’t engage in conversation with her and answers her questions in one word answers. Doesn’t ask how her day was, nothing. And when I confront him about it he say he isn’t being horrible to her or saying anything mean. In my opinion he is basically pretending she doesn’t exist.

So the thing that gets to me the most is we can be having a discussion, say about how nice the weekend was, and he will then interject with something negative like, ‘we’ll your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste.

On holiday last week they were alone for a few minutes at a lovely restaurant I had booked as a treat for DD and they had a conversation when I was in the ladies room. Everything was perfectly fine before this. The rest of the meal was silence and he didn’t talk to me or DD at all other than responding to my questions with grunts or single words, without actually looking at me. He complained about the food and just said he hated it and wanted to leave. He wouldn’t tell me why until later.

Turns out it was because DD had mentioned she really likes eating out at nice restaurants like the one we were in and that’s the best part of her holidays. (She a massive foodie and it’s her passion) he said it felt like she only wanted luxury things and she was, his words, ‘shitting on the rest of the holiday.’

He had no understanding of the fact that she is most likely autistic and that her brain doesn’t work quite like his. He says that it’s no excuse to behave as she does.

He has recently been let go from his job so is struggling with that and other stressful situations, so he is more moody than usual at the moment.

So is my kid a brat or is he? I just need some outside views on the situation. Thank you.

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

OP posts:
DonnaGiovanna · 04/06/2024 11:23

Your daughter sounds v similar to mine and he would be getting the old heave-ho from me. It's hard enough to maintain self esteem as a girl with ASD, why make it harder for her?

Newbutoldfather · 04/06/2024 11:24

The devil is in the detail here.

How much does her father pay you in maintenance? Is this meant to cover the luxury that she seems to covet?

It would be beyond tiresome to be constantly told that someone liked ‘luxury’ and that what you are doing isn’t good enough. It is really hard to treat someone as having needs when their needs seem to be a high six figure income!

I think your AIBU is unfair as I definitely don’t think your BF is being a brat. Is your daughter? That is really hard to tell without her having a proper diagnosis and support being put in place for her. And maybe she has been let down by both her parents in not having her high expectations slowly and carefully managed over time.

I have taught several autistic girls over the last decade and never have I seen one who sulked unless her demands for ‘luxury’ were met. Some time out when things get overwhelming, of course, and being treated gently and sympathetically, but, if they can perform relatively normally in a classroom setting (with the above adjustments), they can work out (by learning, if not by empathy) that expecting first class travel and Michelin starred restaurants is not reasonable and will upset people.

How will she transition from home to uni or independent living if she continues with these expectations?

As for the bf, he should probably step back. This is a really good case to try couples or family counselling as there are several children involved.

Justcallmebebes · 04/06/2024 11:24

It's outrageous that your daughter is not allowed to mention or talk about her father

MintTwirl · 04/06/2024 11:24

Well he will no longer be your boyfriend will he? You can’t choose a man over your child.

Ginkypig · 04/06/2024 11:24

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:18

Yes I find he takes great offence to perceived complaints when in this case she was clearly just talking about what she enjoys. He does it with me too.

I once joked that he wasn’t fun in a playful tone, pulling him back to bed with me as he was getting up and he wouldn’t talk to me for the rest of the day as he took offence.

He’s talking about her like that when he is lives his life like a petulant child!

your dd is an easy excuse for him to aim his behaviour towards but he’d be like this anyway.

personally I think because you’re used to making allowances for DD (and have a history of choosing dick men) it’s caused you to not really think about it when you’re in the same position with him EXCEPT HE IS A FULLY GROWN ADULT with as far as we know no issues that would cause it.

he has shown you who he is, isn’t that enough?

Greenqueen40 · 04/06/2024 11:26

Thank god you don't live with him, should make breaking up with him ten times easier. Which of course you need to do as he's abusing your daughter!

Lunabetty · 04/06/2024 11:26

Let him go, he sounds awful

FineWordsButterNoParsnips · 04/06/2024 11:27

Dating a bloke you feel the need to keep the peace with is bad enough, but to inflict the man on your kids is quite shocking.

Your posts are upsetting to read, as the daughter of a woman who involved me as a child and teen with her appalling taste in males, please do better. The man's words, thoughts are irrelevant, he should have been dumped long ago.

Ghostgirl77 · 04/06/2024 11:28

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:01

Yes this sums it up well. I have asked him to have a serious think about our relationship, as I come as a package. Is he willing to make allowances for her and learn more about neurodiversity? So I’ve given him some time to consider this, whilst I do the same.

He’s had three years to consider this and he’s still being an arse to her. He’s not going to change now.

NachoHat · 04/06/2024 11:28

There's no question here OP. Man doesn't like your child, in the bin with him. Children always come first. Always.

PurpleElf · 04/06/2024 11:29

He sounds utterly horrible, selfish and immature. Rather like your DD’s father. Poor girl, having to contend with two useless, self absorbed men on top of the usual rollercoaster of adolescence and the complications of likely neurodivergence.

I think you need to prioritise your children, who will both be suffering because of your boyfriend, who is clearly a net drain on all your lives. He will not change. Your children deserve better. And so do you. Why waste your energy trying to be a peace keeper in this way? He doesn’t even sound like he’s that nice to you, let alone your daughter. Seriously, what benefit does this relationship bring to you or your children?

titchy · 04/06/2024 11:29

Presumably his penis is made out of gold which is why you haven't kicked him into touch?

Roundroundthegarden · 04/06/2024 11:30

FineWordsButterNoParsnips · 04/06/2024 11:27

Dating a bloke you feel the need to keep the peace with is bad enough, but to inflict the man on your kids is quite shocking.

Your posts are upsetting to read, as the daughter of a woman who involved me as a child and teen with her appalling taste in males, please do better. The man's words, thoughts are irrelevant, he should have been dumped long ago.

Please read this op.

Don't be one of these 'mothers' who puts men before her kids.

Even if your dd is the most difficult child ever, she does not need an outsider who has no relation to her whatsoever to have any negative influence on her childhood.

kitteninabasket · 04/06/2024 11:30

No wonder she struggles with confidence.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 04/06/2024 11:30

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:58

Sorry, I should have made it more clear. We don’t have a child together. He has a child and I have another child too. Both are much younger and neurotypical children.

Since you don't have any shared DC I can see no reason for keeping someone who's treating your DD like this in her life. I know that must be really tough, having kids with SEN can add a lot of restrictions to your life, but she's just a kid and all she's got is you. My DC are all ND. I'm the residential parent, I don't think they'd ever be able to have another adult in their life like this. That's very much it for me. Hopefully you'll be able to add someone else to her life later on, but this man isn't even close to being the right person.

AhNowTed · 04/06/2024 11:31

She sounds like my daughter.

And he sounds like a complete prick.

I hope to god you haven't moved him in.

Poor girl Envy

coconutpie · 04/06/2024 11:33

Your poor DD. I wouldn't even give him the opportunity to try to change his behaviour - he has already shown his true colours, he has nothing but disdain for your DD. Dump him. Your DD needs to come first.

NorthernInLondonx · 04/06/2024 11:34

If a man behaved like this to someone i barely knew i’d be turned off… to your daughter? His behaviour is probably a contributing factor to her “not knowing what to say” etc.. she’s probably nervous of his reaction! Kindly, get a grip and get rid.

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:36

Newbutoldfather · 04/06/2024 11:24

The devil is in the detail here.

How much does her father pay you in maintenance? Is this meant to cover the luxury that she seems to covet?

It would be beyond tiresome to be constantly told that someone liked ‘luxury’ and that what you are doing isn’t good enough. It is really hard to treat someone as having needs when their needs seem to be a high six figure income!

I think your AIBU is unfair as I definitely don’t think your BF is being a brat. Is your daughter? That is really hard to tell without her having a proper diagnosis and support being put in place for her. And maybe she has been let down by both her parents in not having her high expectations slowly and carefully managed over time.

I have taught several autistic girls over the last decade and never have I seen one who sulked unless her demands for ‘luxury’ were met. Some time out when things get overwhelming, of course, and being treated gently and sympathetically, but, if they can perform relatively normally in a classroom setting (with the above adjustments), they can work out (by learning, if not by empathy) that expecting first class travel and Michelin starred restaurants is not reasonable and will upset people.

How will she transition from home to uni or independent living if she continues with these expectations?

As for the bf, he should probably step back. This is a really good case to try couples or family counselling as there are several children involved.

DD certainly doesn’t expect luxury. She, like me and many others, enjoys a nice meal out every now and again. She has never made demands or anything remotely like that. She’s happy at any food place to be honest.

DBFs perceived demands by her are, in my opinion, non existent and in his head. She’s never demanded first class travel or Michelin starred restaurants. She tends to like easygoing relaxing holiday and not adventure as it’s exhausting for her.

She has never demanded luxury or sulked at not receiving it. I’m not sure where that has come from?

Counselling is something I have suggested but he doesn’t see the point of it and thinks it’s a waste of money.

OP posts:
feathermucker · 04/06/2024 11:37

Based on what you've said about the way he treats her, you shouldn't be with him. It isn't a case of weighing it up and beginning to think about it.

Lemsipper · 04/06/2024 11:37

I didnt need to read it all. If you dont finish with this bf you are majorly letting your DD down and shame on you

EmilyTjP · 04/06/2024 11:37

Newbutoldfather · 04/06/2024 11:24

The devil is in the detail here.

How much does her father pay you in maintenance? Is this meant to cover the luxury that she seems to covet?

It would be beyond tiresome to be constantly told that someone liked ‘luxury’ and that what you are doing isn’t good enough. It is really hard to treat someone as having needs when their needs seem to be a high six figure income!

I think your AIBU is unfair as I definitely don’t think your BF is being a brat. Is your daughter? That is really hard to tell without her having a proper diagnosis and support being put in place for her. And maybe she has been let down by both her parents in not having her high expectations slowly and carefully managed over time.

I have taught several autistic girls over the last decade and never have I seen one who sulked unless her demands for ‘luxury’ were met. Some time out when things get overwhelming, of course, and being treated gently and sympathetically, but, if they can perform relatively normally in a classroom setting (with the above adjustments), they can work out (by learning, if not by empathy) that expecting first class travel and Michelin starred restaurants is not reasonable and will upset people.

How will she transition from home to uni or independent living if she continues with these expectations?

As for the bf, he should probably step back. This is a really good case to try couples or family counselling as there are several children involved.

I agree with this.

I don’t think it’s as simple as which one is the brat.
Whilst I think he needs to stop the moodiness and understand she’s a teenager, I’m afraid your DD doesn’t sound very easy to live with either.

Why doesn’t her own dad fulfil these luxury needs?

PerfectTravelTote · 04/06/2024 11:37

Boyfriend doesn't like your dd - the boyfriend has to go.

The rest of the story is surperfluous.

InterIgnis · 04/06/2024 11:38

Why is this even a question? Why are you wanting to give him more chances to treat her like this?

By allowing this, and expecting her not to talk about her father lest it hurt his delicate feelings, you are complicit in his ill treatment of her.

ARichtGoodDram · 04/06/2024 11:40

Also your DD is also poorly treated by her father and she MUST be allowed to talk about him and process him/his attitude.

She shouldn’t have be silent about that.