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Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

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Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:49

My boyfriend of 3 years is having issues with my DD (14). She is most likely on the autism spectrum and I am going through the route of assesment for her.

She likes schedules, predictability and time alone. She struggles socially to make friends and feels very alone at school. She gets easily overwhelmed with too much noise or stimulation and is very emotional and cries everyday. She doesn’t like to do much and her preferred choice of activity would be sitting around painting or watching tv. She also has some mild learning difficulties, so struggles with her schoolwork. She often doesn’t know the ‘right’ thing to say and her conversations can be strange and odd at times. She people pleased in my opinion which means we often all get different individual versions of events and she often lies in small ways. Overall she is a good kid with a kind heart.

Her dad (who left when she was a baby) is a very wealthy man, but a terrible parent who has little to nothing to do with her other than to criticise her family and especially me and my DBF. He will sees her a few times a year for a meal and calls her now and again to ask what I am up to and put me and her siblings, or even her, down.

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her. To be fair her dad is always telling her what we are providing isn’t enough, the holidays aren’t good enough and we aren’t traveling first class, like he does. She doesn’t have a filter and just shares this with us. Not as her view but as her dads.
I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

DBF has started saying DD is spoiling everyone’s fun as she struggles with sensory overload on car journeys or trips away. She gets teary and upset over the noise (we have two other younger children) and doesn’t want to be touched by her siblings or to be in the car too long. I find ways to manage it with her. We plan out timings so she knows how long we are in the car for, we plan our days on holiday so she knows what activities to expect. She tries her best but can’t help sometimes feeling overwhelmed and then cries.

She doesn’t like to exercise and struggles with her confidence with many things.

He thinks she is spoiling the activities for everyone else as she looks miserable. She’s simply trying to join in and not make a fuss as best she can. She can’t help it if she isn’t enjoying it!

He says she is entitled as she prefers luxury and she’s making a scene because she wants to be on a luxury holiday and not a budget one. I know her and that’s not the case. She just struggles with the sheer amount of activities and lack of relaxation that is on holidays with DBF and the other children. If I were given an option of a relaxing beach trip to the Maldives or a camping site I would choose the Maldives hands down, no questions asked too! I’m not ungrateful!

She acts like a much younger child and he will always focus on the fact that she is 14 and should be behaving in a certain way.

Sometimes he makes a real effort with her and is great. Then others, he has no patience and moody as ever and ignores her.

He says he doesn’t have anything in common with her. Sometimes he doesn’t engage in conversation with her and answers her questions in one word answers. Doesn’t ask how her day was, nothing. And when I confront him about it he say he isn’t being horrible to her or saying anything mean. In my opinion he is basically pretending she doesn’t exist.

So the thing that gets to me the most is we can be having a discussion, say about how nice the weekend was, and he will then interject with something negative like, ‘we’ll your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste.

On holiday last week they were alone for a few minutes at a lovely restaurant I had booked as a treat for DD and they had a conversation when I was in the ladies room. Everything was perfectly fine before this. The rest of the meal was silence and he didn’t talk to me or DD at all other than responding to my questions with grunts or single words, without actually looking at me. He complained about the food and just said he hated it and wanted to leave. He wouldn’t tell me why until later.

Turns out it was because DD had mentioned she really likes eating out at nice restaurants like the one we were in and that’s the best part of her holidays. (She a massive foodie and it’s her passion) he said it felt like she only wanted luxury things and she was, his words, ‘shitting on the rest of the holiday.’

He had no understanding of the fact that she is most likely autistic and that her brain doesn’t work quite like his. He says that it’s no excuse to behave as she does.

He has recently been let go from his job so is struggling with that and other stressful situations, so he is more moody than usual at the moment.

So is my kid a brat or is he? I just need some outside views on the situation. Thank you.

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

OP posts:
Easipeelerie · 04/06/2024 18:25

He sounds deeply unpleasant. He sulked with you for a day - horrible. Get rid for all your sakes, but especially for your vulnerable DD.
Dont bother giving him time to think or to change - it is virtually guaranteed he won’t be able to.

Clueless2024 · 04/06/2024 18:26

He sounds like an awful man.
Your daughter HAS to come first. He's not even trying to understand (autism), he shows no empathy & is making it all about himself & how HE feels. Selfish man child.
Bin him, pronto

chair1960 · 04/06/2024 18:26

PLEASE dump this toxic man .

emmypa · 04/06/2024 18:27

Why are you still with him? His behavior is deplorable, regardless of whether or not she's autistic. He won't change. Get rid of him and use the extra headspace to support your DD.

dapsnotplimsolls · 04/06/2024 18:32

How does she feel about him?

Mrsredlipstick · 04/06/2024 18:34

What would you tell a friend to do OP?
My sister put her bf before her children, one newly diagnosed with ADHD twenty years later as my sister refused testing. Both left ASAP at 16/18.No one is welcome at that house. Both her and her husband spend their time drunk and fighting. Her son and daughter have never got over being second to any man. Her first husband was lovely. She cheated on him. She moved the current one in without protecting her house. Please don't do this.
My DD is a handful with SEN but I would never put a partner before her. Even her dad who is lovely.
Tell your children you're not seeing 'Fred' as you have lots on. Let him go.

datcherygrateful · 04/06/2024 18:37

why aren't we talking about the ex?

Ginkypig · 04/06/2024 18:39

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 17:32

Looking at it like that I would not accept this behaviour as it is now, had this been his initial response. initially he was lovely with her and she thought he was wonderful.

It’s slowly crept in to a point where at times I do think his dislike for her dad is greater than his ability to understand her and her needs.
He’s changed as a person and the me from a few years back would never have tolerated this. I know what I need to do.

I hope you do know because the damage could reach far in to adulthood and all future relationships for your daughter.

you see that her learning is by watching your relationships and all she has seen is shitty men and you tolerating it and telling her to curtail herself too.

MagpieCastle · 04/06/2024 18:41

It sounds as though he is either deliberately/automatically focussing on the perceived negative attributes and comments of your daughter. If you expect to hear something negative, you hear it. I suspect with his dc he’s more able to give benefit of the doubt or shrug off behaviour? The danger is that your dd will begin to internalise his negative view of her and believe it. Life is already difficult enough for neurodiverse kids without this.

You sound like a great mum. You are in your dd’s corner but have slipped into the role of trying to keep this peace. This is exhausting and not good for you and your dd. So time to jump off the fence, I guess. As the mum of an autistic teen I can feel how hard your daughter is trying (and you too) but her efforts are not being reciprocated by your dbf (who seems less emotionally mature than dd in many ways).

JLou08 · 04/06/2024 18:45

It made me want to shout every time I read DBF, I would not include dear describing him. He sounds awful, you need to get rid for the sake of DD and yourself. He sounds controlling and manipulative, he is trying to drive a wedge between you and DD and your DD should not have to avoid mentioning her father in front of him.

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 04/06/2024 18:46

These comments stood out to me.
" '...well your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste."

He doesn't like her and it's becoming more and more apparent. I feel sorry for your DD having someone like that making adverse comments/expressions on the things she says. He's taking his dislike of her dad ( who I'm guessing he only really hears of second hand) out on her.

"DBFs perceived demands by her are, in my opinion, non existent and in his head."

This is his problem, he's the ADULT in this situation but he takes offence at things that are not meant to be offensive and is remarkably insecure. From what you've said he's not making any real attempts to understand her neurodiversity (and he's had three years to do this, possibly because he resents her) You've been talking to other parents with similar issues in an attempt to understand better strategies for helping her, which is actually setting a really good example, but it doesn't sound like he's engaging with that.

"Counselling is something I have suggested but he doesn’t see the point of it and thinks it’s a waste of money."

I bet he does!
He doesn't think it will make any difference because he doesn't see himself as being any part of the problem. Going to counselling would imply, in his eyes, that there's something that needs to change.

What does he himself actually want going forward?
Has he thought about or expressed that? Or is it just a question of implying that you should manage her better?
Going to a third party to talk about this might help him to think about what he really does want to happen and how to achieve it and that would be worth the money.

RiceCrispyCakes · 04/06/2024 18:48

She said nothing wrong, in fact she could have stayed quiet and I bet he would've said she was being ungrateful by not saying she enjoyed the meal.
You have a bf problem here not an issue with your daughter.. She sounds lovely.
I suspect he's taking his resentment/jealousy out on her about her father.
Get rid.

Castle0 · 04/06/2024 18:50

FineWordsButterNoParsnips · 04/06/2024 11:18

You owe your child a huge apology for inflicting such trash on her.
Get the man dumped as a matter of urgency, start putting your child first.
'DBF' does not need to step up, or learn about your child's private medical details, he needs to be removed from your child's home.
Surely you know this?

Edited

This.

OP is cock drunk.

SamW98 · 04/06/2024 18:51

You herd to get rid and not try and have reasonable discussions with this selfish manchild.

You DD comes first. The more you delay kicking his sulky jealous arse to the kerb, they more you’re teaching your kids that you’re prioritising dick over them.

You know deep down that he needs to go - don’t you waste any more time with him. He’s had long enough

Anywherebuthere · 04/06/2024 18:52

He isnt the right person to be in your DDs life at the moment.

Doesnt make him a bad person but your DD and her needs have to be your first priority. As you say you're a part of a package.

HollyKnight · 04/06/2024 18:55

Your boyfriend dislikes your child, but you need to think about whether this is worth ending your relationship over. Why do you need to think about that?! Why are you forcing this moody man, who dislikes your child, on your children?

Arraminta · 04/06/2024 18:58

Ask yourself what is wrong with you, OP, that you are still in a relationship with a man when you know he dislikes your child?

Decent adults should not need counselling FFS in order to learn that teenagers with autism need care and understanding.

And lastly, if your boyfriend sulks because your ex is more wealthy, then he needs to STFU and earn more money himself. Not punish your poor daughter for his own inadequacy.

Eeeden · 04/06/2024 19:00

It doesn't matter who is in the wrong. Your BF doesn't like your child, therefore you cannot have a relationship that involves your child with him. IMO you could continue to date him in your childfree time but that is all. You cannot bring a man who dislikes your child into her life. She has enough to deal with already and even if she didn't you have to look after her as best you can.

CactusSammy · 04/06/2024 19:04

Get rid of him. He is a twat who will ruin your daughters childhood, damage your relationship with her, and if you stay with him you will look back and severely regret it.

Otherstories2002 · 04/06/2024 19:05

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 11:01

Yes this sums it up well. I have asked him to have a serious think about our relationship, as I come as a package. Is he willing to make allowances for her and learn more about neurodiversity? So I’ve given him some time to consider this, whilst I do the same.

No.

YOU should be having a serious think. Stuff him.

Crazydoglady1980 · 04/06/2024 19:11

Unfortunately the issue isn’t your DD, it’s your BF. He has taken a beating on his self esteem from the issues with work, and sees your DD as feeding into his insecurities. This is not going to change until your BF seeks support with this, in fact it is likely to get worse as he feels that any negative comment made is an attack against himself and what he can provide.

StormingNorman · 04/06/2024 19:15

Bin him.
Dump him.
Sack him off.
Kick his sorry arse to the curb.

sleeponeday · 04/06/2024 19:16

All kids need to feel they are loved, safe and accepted in their own homes. That goes a million for autistic ones.

He is emotionally abusing her. He can't be in her home. He just can't. The harm will be devastating.

I have 2 autistic kids and this was so hard to read. When the outside world is already so unforgiving, what hope does she have if she has no place where she feels valued at all - no place of refuge or safety? She should be able to breathe out and know she's absolutely loved, as soon as she sets foot in the house. Being rejected - an autistic perennial, out in the world, and so toxic - should end as she crosses the threshold. Do you have any idea how high the abuse stats are for adult autistic women? How much self-esteem will protect her against that, when nothing else can? And the suicide stats for autistics are horrendous, too. Her own stepfather disliking her and demonising her is just hideous. The poor scrap.

My heart breaks for her.

CheeseSandwichRiskAssessment · 04/06/2024 19:22

Poor girl, stuck between three adults who aren't on her side.

He's simply insecure about not measuring up to your ex financially and is taking it out on her, how ugly.

I admit I laughed when he complained they don't have much in common, of course they don't she's a teenage girl! He is a giant baby. Please dump him.

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 19:23

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