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Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

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Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:49

My boyfriend of 3 years is having issues with my DD (14). She is most likely on the autism spectrum and I am going through the route of assesment for her.

She likes schedules, predictability and time alone. She struggles socially to make friends and feels very alone at school. She gets easily overwhelmed with too much noise or stimulation and is very emotional and cries everyday. She doesn’t like to do much and her preferred choice of activity would be sitting around painting or watching tv. She also has some mild learning difficulties, so struggles with her schoolwork. She often doesn’t know the ‘right’ thing to say and her conversations can be strange and odd at times. She people pleased in my opinion which means we often all get different individual versions of events and she often lies in small ways. Overall she is a good kid with a kind heart.

Her dad (who left when she was a baby) is a very wealthy man, but a terrible parent who has little to nothing to do with her other than to criticise her family and especially me and my DBF. He will sees her a few times a year for a meal and calls her now and again to ask what I am up to and put me and her siblings, or even her, down.

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her. To be fair her dad is always telling her what we are providing isn’t enough, the holidays aren’t good enough and we aren’t traveling first class, like he does. She doesn’t have a filter and just shares this with us. Not as her view but as her dads.
I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

DBF has started saying DD is spoiling everyone’s fun as she struggles with sensory overload on car journeys or trips away. She gets teary and upset over the noise (we have two other younger children) and doesn’t want to be touched by her siblings or to be in the car too long. I find ways to manage it with her. We plan out timings so she knows how long we are in the car for, we plan our days on holiday so she knows what activities to expect. She tries her best but can’t help sometimes feeling overwhelmed and then cries.

She doesn’t like to exercise and struggles with her confidence with many things.

He thinks she is spoiling the activities for everyone else as she looks miserable. She’s simply trying to join in and not make a fuss as best she can. She can’t help it if she isn’t enjoying it!

He says she is entitled as she prefers luxury and she’s making a scene because she wants to be on a luxury holiday and not a budget one. I know her and that’s not the case. She just struggles with the sheer amount of activities and lack of relaxation that is on holidays with DBF and the other children. If I were given an option of a relaxing beach trip to the Maldives or a camping site I would choose the Maldives hands down, no questions asked too! I’m not ungrateful!

She acts like a much younger child and he will always focus on the fact that she is 14 and should be behaving in a certain way.

Sometimes he makes a real effort with her and is great. Then others, he has no patience and moody as ever and ignores her.

He says he doesn’t have anything in common with her. Sometimes he doesn’t engage in conversation with her and answers her questions in one word answers. Doesn’t ask how her day was, nothing. And when I confront him about it he say he isn’t being horrible to her or saying anything mean. In my opinion he is basically pretending she doesn’t exist.

So the thing that gets to me the most is we can be having a discussion, say about how nice the weekend was, and he will then interject with something negative like, ‘we’ll your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste.

On holiday last week they were alone for a few minutes at a lovely restaurant I had booked as a treat for DD and they had a conversation when I was in the ladies room. Everything was perfectly fine before this. The rest of the meal was silence and he didn’t talk to me or DD at all other than responding to my questions with grunts or single words, without actually looking at me. He complained about the food and just said he hated it and wanted to leave. He wouldn’t tell me why until later.

Turns out it was because DD had mentioned she really likes eating out at nice restaurants like the one we were in and that’s the best part of her holidays. (She a massive foodie and it’s her passion) he said it felt like she only wanted luxury things and she was, his words, ‘shitting on the rest of the holiday.’

He had no understanding of the fact that she is most likely autistic and that her brain doesn’t work quite like his. He says that it’s no excuse to behave as she does.

He has recently been let go from his job so is struggling with that and other stressful situations, so he is more moody than usual at the moment.

So is my kid a brat or is he? I just need some outside views on the situation. Thank you.

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

OP posts:
JohnSt1 · 04/06/2024 17:04

So which one is the teenager again?

Your poor daughter, and poor you.

He's not suitable.

PrincessMiranda · 04/06/2024 17:05

neilyoungismyhero · 04/06/2024 17:00

Your OP painted a bit of a different picture to your subsequent ones re. Your DD's issues. You said she cries every day. She gets overwhelmed by noise going out and in the car. She's not keen on exercise and would rather stay home. She likes luxury in the form of nice restaurants and meals and seems to idolise her useless father who appears now and then to stir the pot then buggars off for months. It sounds like everything revolves around what she wants/needs.
I can see where he's coming from and his mistake is staying in a relationship where he is unable to cope with your daughter's issues. Honestly I couldn't cope either with a child like this. I should let him go best for all of you in the long run.

Yep, agree with all of this.

Grpo · 04/06/2024 17:06

i don’t know how you stay with such a sulky bullying man child. It can’t be comfortable at all for dd having him around and it doesn’t sound like it is for you either.

Anniegetyourgun · 04/06/2024 17:08

There are an awful lot of comments on this thread from people who haven't paid attention to what the OP has said, and are therefore castigating her for things she hasn't done (or hasn't failed to do).

She has not had 2 children with the BF. She has two children, neither of them by the BF, and he has one, not with OP. The BF and his child do not live with OP. BF was not always difficult with DD but has got worse recently following redundancy and other unspecified stresses. He hasn't spent 3 years being a pain (well, not to the child anyway) so it's kind of caught her on the back foot. DD's dad is the one who insists they should be giving her luxury holidays and BF seems to have become ridiculously sensitive to that, hence accusing the child of wanting things she has actually not asked for, or misinterpreting her innocent remarks. As an aside, the kind of holidays they are doing, presumably for the benefit of the younger children, seem to be unsuited to DD's needs and pretty much guaranteed to make her uncomfortable.

I'm in the LTB camp, by the way. It doesn't matter how well BF used to get on with DD (could have been faking it to start with, or could be because she's reached an age where he stops making allowances), he doesn't now and it's causing her unnecessary stress. I don't believe it's worth the risk of giving him time to shape up before he ships out. But it's not my relationship.

SamW98 · 04/06/2024 17:09

ChangeAgain2 · 04/06/2024 16:12

I think you are totally unreasonable to censor DD. She should be allowed to talk about her dad. She should be able to share what he has said and her thoughts without worrying about a grown man's ego. She's a child she might need to talk about it to process her thought or feelings.

Your boyfriend is a prick whose pricking on a child because he feels insecure and inferior. He's upset because DD dad has £££. It hurts BFs little ego. How dare he bully a child because he can't win a pissing contest with her dad.

On another note, I would monitor the phone between DD and her dad and end the calls every time he's rude about you or her siblings. It's not in DD interests to listen to that shit. DDs dad needs to focus on her.

Unfortunately, @Loveisntallyouneed you seem to have awful taste in men.

100% - kids before a partner every single time.

ManilowBarry · 04/06/2024 17:09

Haven't read the thread but saw this -

'I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.'

That is absolutely disgusting that you have asked/told her not to talk about her father regardless of whether he is a good dad or not

Just another woman putting cock before kid

Hazyjaneishere · 04/06/2024 17:09

This would be a hard no from me - how dare he be so unsupportive and critical?! He wants to get his ego in check and also adjust his view of what life with a child with additional needs is like. He’s clearly bothered by your ex being better off than him for one thing. But the lack of empathy towards your daughter is really awful. As a HSP myself I would hate to live with someone who had no tolerance or understanding of the things I find hard to deal with. I’d seriously consider ending this relationship.

IAlwaysTellTheTruthEvenWhenILie · 04/06/2024 17:11

Put DD first and get rid of the horrid bf

wibblywobblywoo · 04/06/2024 17:12

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:58

Sorry, I should have made it more clear. We don’t have a child together. He has a child and I have another child too. Both are much younger and neurotypical children.

Thank goodness for that, in that case bin him, as you say, you come as a package - it's all or nothing.

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 17:12

JohnSt1 · 04/06/2024 17:04

So which one is the teenager again?

Your poor daughter, and poor you.

He's not suitable.

“poor you”? huh?

Sleepydoor · 04/06/2024 17:20

It's so nice that you seem to understand your daughter so well. Shame about the DBF.

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 17:21

Sleepydoor · 04/06/2024 17:20

It's so nice that you seem to understand your daughter so well. Shame about the DBF.

are we reading the same Op?

Yousay55 · 04/06/2024 17:23

I don’t even need to read what you’ve written about your bf to know that you should put your daughter first. If he doesn’t like her, leave him. It really is that simple.

PickAChew · 04/06/2024 17:23

So many people putting the boot in without at least reading OP's posts.

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 17:24

PickAChew · 04/06/2024 17:23

So many people putting the boot in without at least reading OP's posts.

oh we have read them
the question is… have you?

SneezedToothOut · 04/06/2024 17:25

His ego is bruised. Her father is well off and he has no job.

He’s taking it out on a ND teenage girl.

utterly disgusting. Put him in the bin.

KomodoOhno · 04/06/2024 17:27

You have to pick your dd. While it does sound hard to live with she is your dd. I'd be very careful of new bf's down the line. It's going to take a special person to deal with this and he is not it.

ClareBlue · 04/06/2024 17:27

So you take your teen daughter to a nice restaurant whilst on holiday and she says she really likes it and it's the favourite part of the holiday and your partner says that by saying that she has shit on the rest of the holiday and goes into a mood.
You can see how utterly ridiculous he is being. Add in the cruelty to your daughter who has challenges in everyday life that you have posted about and his general moodiness and jealousy and you know what to do.
You daughter deserves better than the weak adult men in her life she currently has.

LookingOutMyWindow · 04/06/2024 17:28

The part I disliked the most (there was a fair bit) about this situation is your boyfriend referring to her as ‘your daughter’
I really hope he didn’t actually say that.. talk about distancing her from the family

JohnSt1 · 04/06/2024 17:29

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 17:12

“poor you”? huh?

Yes. It's a difficult situation for the OP. I think she needs to ditch the man-child.

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 17:31

JohnSt1 · 04/06/2024 17:29

Yes. It's a difficult situation for the OP. I think she needs to ditch the man-child.

It really isn’t a difficult situation if you are a half-decent parent

Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 17:32

Grendacious · 04/06/2024 16:57

It sounds like the situation has crept up on you and he used to be much nicer. If you met him now would you be horrified at how he treated your DD? I think you need to base it on that as the present is what she's experiencing and what you need to respond to. The guy from 2 years ago who found her (at 11) easier to deal with is not necessarily coming back.

I might consider that he himself is under a lot of stress and give him one chance. If he listened, said "you're right and I'm so sorry I need to change the way I'm behaving because it's not fair on her" then he might get a bit longer to see what happens. I'd need to be bowled over with his insight and desire to change. But if he responds in a selfish way, then nope, your DD unfortunately needs better than another man making out she's not good enough for him the way she is.

Looking at it like that I would not accept this behaviour as it is now, had this been his initial response. initially he was lovely with her and she thought he was wonderful.

It’s slowly crept in to a point where at times I do think his dislike for her dad is greater than his ability to understand her and her needs.
He’s changed as a person and the me from a few years back would never have tolerated this. I know what I need to do.

OP posts:
extrawhite · 04/06/2024 17:32

he lives with you and your daughter, yes?

ClareBlue · 04/06/2024 17:38

And having brought up teen daughters if any had said they appreciated or liked anything we organised for them between 13 and 17 then we would have taken that as a win.
Later on they said they did, but at 14 to say something was their favourite part and they liked it was more or less unheard of, so good on her for showing some appreciation.

LunaMay · 04/06/2024 17:43

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 17:32

he lives with you and your daughter, yes?

I thought you said you had read all her posts..........