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Boyfriend doesn’t like my DD

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Loveisntallyouneed · 04/06/2024 10:49

My boyfriend of 3 years is having issues with my DD (14). She is most likely on the autism spectrum and I am going through the route of assesment for her.

She likes schedules, predictability and time alone. She struggles socially to make friends and feels very alone at school. She gets easily overwhelmed with too much noise or stimulation and is very emotional and cries everyday. She doesn’t like to do much and her preferred choice of activity would be sitting around painting or watching tv. She also has some mild learning difficulties, so struggles with her schoolwork. She often doesn’t know the ‘right’ thing to say and her conversations can be strange and odd at times. She people pleased in my opinion which means we often all get different individual versions of events and she often lies in small ways. Overall she is a good kid with a kind heart.

Her dad (who left when she was a baby) is a very wealthy man, but a terrible parent who has little to nothing to do with her other than to criticise her family and especially me and my DBF. He will sees her a few times a year for a meal and calls her now and again to ask what I am up to and put me and her siblings, or even her, down.

My BF get very agitated and can be in a mood for the rest of the day or can start an argument that lasts for days any time DD mentions her father, or anything her father has said to her. To be fair her dad is always telling her what we are providing isn’t enough, the holidays aren’t good enough and we aren’t traveling first class, like he does. She doesn’t have a filter and just shares this with us. Not as her view but as her dads.
I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

DBF has started saying DD is spoiling everyone’s fun as she struggles with sensory overload on car journeys or trips away. She gets teary and upset over the noise (we have two other younger children) and doesn’t want to be touched by her siblings or to be in the car too long. I find ways to manage it with her. We plan out timings so she knows how long we are in the car for, we plan our days on holiday so she knows what activities to expect. She tries her best but can’t help sometimes feeling overwhelmed and then cries.

She doesn’t like to exercise and struggles with her confidence with many things.

He thinks she is spoiling the activities for everyone else as she looks miserable. She’s simply trying to join in and not make a fuss as best she can. She can’t help it if she isn’t enjoying it!

He says she is entitled as she prefers luxury and she’s making a scene because she wants to be on a luxury holiday and not a budget one. I know her and that’s not the case. She just struggles with the sheer amount of activities and lack of relaxation that is on holidays with DBF and the other children. If I were given an option of a relaxing beach trip to the Maldives or a camping site I would choose the Maldives hands down, no questions asked too! I’m not ungrateful!

She acts like a much younger child and he will always focus on the fact that she is 14 and should be behaving in a certain way.

Sometimes he makes a real effort with her and is great. Then others, he has no patience and moody as ever and ignores her.

He says he doesn’t have anything in common with her. Sometimes he doesn’t engage in conversation with her and answers her questions in one word answers. Doesn’t ask how her day was, nothing. And when I confront him about it he say he isn’t being horrible to her or saying anything mean. In my opinion he is basically pretending she doesn’t exist.

So the thing that gets to me the most is we can be having a discussion, say about how nice the weekend was, and he will then interject with something negative like, ‘we’ll your DD wasn’t happy. She looked like she hated it. It wasn’t good enough for her. She is ungrateful/ entitled.’ Or he will roll his eyes when she says something odd or she doesn’t seem genuinely excited for something we have planned that isn’t actually to her taste.

On holiday last week they were alone for a few minutes at a lovely restaurant I had booked as a treat for DD and they had a conversation when I was in the ladies room. Everything was perfectly fine before this. The rest of the meal was silence and he didn’t talk to me or DD at all other than responding to my questions with grunts or single words, without actually looking at me. He complained about the food and just said he hated it and wanted to leave. He wouldn’t tell me why until later.

Turns out it was because DD had mentioned she really likes eating out at nice restaurants like the one we were in and that’s the best part of her holidays. (She a massive foodie and it’s her passion) he said it felt like she only wanted luxury things and she was, his words, ‘shitting on the rest of the holiday.’

He had no understanding of the fact that she is most likely autistic and that her brain doesn’t work quite like his. He says that it’s no excuse to behave as she does.

He has recently been let go from his job so is struggling with that and other stressful situations, so he is more moody than usual at the moment.

So is my kid a brat or is he? I just need some outside views on the situation. Thank you.

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

OP posts:
HebburnPokemon · 04/06/2024 16:19

HE is an outsider

At what point does a 'stepparent' become an insider?

Open question.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 04/06/2024 16:19

AlwaysGinPlease · 04/06/2024 14:57

You really need to ask? Women that put boyfriends first over their children both disgust and baffle me.

I don't disagree with you, but do you honestly think there aren't a fuck of a lot of men who put their girlfriends first over their children? That's if they even bother to see their children.

This is not a 'women' problem, it's a 'humans' problem.

HebburnPokemon · 04/06/2024 16:20

telling her that we (specifically DBF) should be taking her on luxury trips.

Why is that specifically DBF's responsibility?

chillybroccoli · 04/06/2024 16:21

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IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 04/06/2024 16:25

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I really don't think that's a valid argument for criticising only women for something men also do.

My shitty cousin put his girlfriend, who was vile to his daughter, first for years. His poor daughter had to spend every weekend with them, and go on holiday with them. Does he deserve less condemnation than the OP because he has a Y chromosome?

oakleaffy · 04/06/2024 16:25

SwingTheMonkey · 04/06/2024 10:56

Wait, so in the space of 3 years, you’ve met, introduced a new bf to your autistic daughter and had 2 more kids?

🤯

Crazy if so.
The 14 yr old probably reminds the new Boyfriend of the Husband ( the wanting luxurious things).

HebburnPokemon · 04/06/2024 16:25

How much does her father pay you in maintenance? Is this meant to cover the luxury that she seems to covet?

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Gemmahearts94 · 04/06/2024 16:26

Dosnt matter who's right or wrong, she's your child, she wins end of. Bye DBF 👋🏻

datcherygrateful · 04/06/2024 16:33

I personally have lots of experience with them, was in a relationship with a man who had 2, and am a mother to 1. So not all of us on here are talking out of our asses when it comes to teenagers.

FWIW the DP is immature, and insecure and you are fundamentally incompatible.

HOWEVER, you said he is a father of two other children? Were they on the holiday? Do they do activities with your daughter? From his perspective and probably his children, not understanding neurodivergence, they are going to interpret what your daughter is saying as ungrateful, and if it makes the younger kids feel a certain way, like unworthy, or poor, or less than, the dad will pick it up. Especially if she is repulsed by them touching her.

They won't really understand that she is literally saying what she thinks rather than intentionally being rude. To them and him, it could well come across as "my daddy is better than your daddy", "my daddy gives me much nicer things", "my daddy takes me to much nicer places", "I don't want to that, I want to do this", "the only thing I like is this posh restaurant because it's posh, not like what YOU are used to, because my daddy thinks I should always go to posh restaurants".

I think this relationship as I said is incompatible sorry but you do need to work on your boundaries with your ex. Maybe get your deadbeat ex to fund a trip to Maldives for all of you. The cheek of him.

Agapornis · 04/06/2024 16:37

Dump him.

Being an autistic teenage girl is really bloody hard. He's causing her lots of stress, even if she won't tell you that.
Re making friends, please focus on that together, because puberty is really lonely without any (in my experience). I'd recommend joining a hobby group. When you're autistic, it's easier to bond with strangers over special interests because having inane chitchat like NT people feels impossible. Art, painting, cooking classes, non-team sports (like martial arts, with clear rules and expectations). Perhaps teen/girl autism support groups, either online or irl. Is there a lunch club at school for kids with autism?

GingerPirate · 04/06/2024 16:43

Blimey, too many deleted comments.
😐

VJBR · 04/06/2024 16:47

Please put your daughter first. This man
is surely not helping her stress levels. He sounds awful. Surely you are better off single than with this loser who treats your daughter like crap.

ARichtGoodDram · 04/06/2024 16:48

Does your younger child have a good relationship with their father?

Is your DD able to see the model of a good dad or stepdad from there?

Her father and your BF are not good examples of what you want her thinking men should behave like in relationships.

MrsDTucker · 04/06/2024 16:48

My dd is 14. She isn't autistic. She's a typical teen who moans about life and doesn't go out with us much.

Would your dd prefer to stay home when you eat out?

I'm autistic and I've always acted younger than my age so I would have gone.

Binman · 04/06/2024 16:50

@Loveisntallyouneed I’ve spoke with her many times and it’s now at the point where I have asked her not to mention her dad around DBF.

This is as far as I read. You are modifying your behaviour and asking any child not to mention her father is a step too far. If he can't understand her you know what you need to do.

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 16:51

YABU - DD is a brat
YANBU- DBF is a brat

You are obscenely unreasonable for even asking this and should be bloody ashamed of yourself

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 16:52

FWIW the DP is immature, and insecure and you are fundamentally incompatible.

sadly for the DD i would say the OP and her DP are very compatible

GingerPirate · 04/06/2024 16:54

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 16:52

FWIW the DP is immature, and insecure and you are fundamentally incompatible.

sadly for the DD i would say the OP and her DP are very compatible

😊
Right!

Italianita · 04/06/2024 16:54

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Lavenderflower · 04/06/2024 16:54

I think you need to prioritise your daughters needs and wellbeing.

cestlavielife · 04/06/2024 16:55

Who will you put first?
Clearly dd
Dump the boyfriend

Gemmahearts94 · 04/06/2024 16:56

Also as a women who's mother put every relationship she ever had with a man over me and my sisters don't be surprised if she wants nothing to with you as an adult

Grendacious · 04/06/2024 16:57

It sounds like the situation has crept up on you and he used to be much nicer. If you met him now would you be horrified at how he treated your DD? I think you need to base it on that as the present is what she's experiencing and what you need to respond to. The guy from 2 years ago who found her (at 11) easier to deal with is not necessarily coming back.

I might consider that he himself is under a lot of stress and give him one chance. If he listened, said "you're right and I'm so sorry I need to change the way I'm behaving because it's not fair on her" then he might get a bit longer to see what happens. I'd need to be bowled over with his insight and desire to change. But if he responds in a selfish way, then nope, your DD unfortunately needs better than another man making out she's not good enough for him the way she is.

neilyoungismyhero · 04/06/2024 17:00

Your OP painted a bit of a different picture to your subsequent ones re. Your DD's issues. You said she cries every day. She gets overwhelmed by noise going out and in the car. She's not keen on exercise and would rather stay home. She likes luxury in the form of nice restaurants and meals and seems to idolise her useless father who appears now and then to stir the pot then buggars off for months. It sounds like everything revolves around what she wants/needs.
I can see where he's coming from and his mistake is staying in a relationship where he is unable to cope with your daughter's issues. Honestly I couldn't cope either with a child like this. I should let him go best for all of you in the long run.

extrawhite · 04/06/2024 17:01

neilyoungismyhero · 04/06/2024 17:00

Your OP painted a bit of a different picture to your subsequent ones re. Your DD's issues. You said she cries every day. She gets overwhelmed by noise going out and in the car. She's not keen on exercise and would rather stay home. She likes luxury in the form of nice restaurants and meals and seems to idolise her useless father who appears now and then to stir the pot then buggars off for months. It sounds like everything revolves around what she wants/needs.
I can see where he's coming from and his mistake is staying in a relationship where he is unable to cope with your daughter's issues. Honestly I couldn't cope either with a child like this. I should let him go best for all of you in the long run.

so you would end the relationship… fair enough

but would you be cruel? like this…. man bullying a young teen girl