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AIBU to think a person that has DC should tell their ex/co-parent if the new partner will be staying over in same house as DCs

74 replies

Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 21:48

Basically what the title says.

YABU - person doesn’t have any reason to tell ex
YANBU - person in relationship should tell ex

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Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 22:45

OhHelloMiss · 03/06/2024 21:59

I think plenty of new boyfriends get moved in way too soon

I was referring to overnight visits with the DCs were with parent rather than moving in.

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Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 22:46

AnneLovesGilbert · 03/06/2024 22:01

Most people want to know if it’s their ex and a new partner. Most people don’t think their ex has any rights when it’s their own new partner.

That seems very hypocritical to me.

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Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 22:48

SomePosters · 03/06/2024 22:02

Do you expect to be told when their friends and family stay over too?

Are you prepared to notify them of anyone you have over?

I think friends and family are different. A new partner could become quite involved in their other halves DC’s lives.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 03/06/2024 22:50

Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 22:46

That seems very hypocritical to me.

Of course it is!

Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 22:51

redalex261 · 03/06/2024 22:05

I think the other parent should know who is spending the night and whatever other time with their kids. Personally I would’ve been livid had my ex had a girlfriend stay over whilst my child was on an overnighter.

I know every adult is entitled to privacy in their romantic relationships but there has to be some flex when kids are involved, especially if the relationship is new.

Obviously, if things become serious that changes matters but presumably the other parent would know about the new partner at that stage. I have a couple if friends whose parents had a revolving series of new loves through their homes. Neither was happy about it. The parents act as if all the “mistakes” didn’t exist but their kids remember.

I’m not being sexist either - Didn’t matter if it was the mum or the dad with the new lover, it still bothered them and caused rows when they either told the other parent or were told not to mention it.

What would you count as serious? At what stage should the other parent be told? Why would they necessarily know if the ex or DC didn’t tell them.

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SpringerFall · 03/06/2024 22:51

My husband a calm normal rational person so if something happened to us I would trust his judgement on what he does, if he wasn't, I wouldn't have had a child with him in the first place

ItsNotAShopItsAStore · 03/06/2024 22:51

No

People should not be beholden to their ex just because they have kids.

In my view if you have a child with someone it’s a huge deal and the implication is that you trust that person. If you split with them and send them to their other parent’s house you have to have an element of trust. With that comes trusting them with decisions about new partners.

If you don’t trust them now, why did you when you first had a baby?

Spirallingdownwards · 03/06/2024 22:53

PattyDuckface · 03/06/2024 21:56

YANBU

It's so bizarre that people say you've no right to know. How the hell can that be true - you'd have a right to know if your child was on a school trip which adults were accompanying them.

People who say you've no right to know, is this just hyperbole or is this some mad law?

On a school trip one of the parents isn't in attendance. In this case the child is in the care of their own parent.

It's not rocket science.

Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 22:54

Theunamedcat · 03/06/2024 22:44

Depends on the partner ex had one who was a violent alcoholic had her children removed I would definitely need to know about that his latest has had an occasional flirt with bad behaviour while drinking but it isn't regular appeared to be a blip and I would be less concerned

So I would say unless there is safeguarding concerns no

No safeguarding concerns

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CandiedPrincess · 03/06/2024 23:00

PattyDuckface · 03/06/2024 21:56

YANBU

It's so bizarre that people say you've no right to know. How the hell can that be true - you'd have a right to know if your child was on a school trip which adults were accompanying them.

People who say you've no right to know, is this just hyperbole or is this some mad law?

Because they have no legal right. End of! There is no law that states you must tell the other parent.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 23:02

Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 22:31

PP has said that it helps the other parent be able to chat to the DC to smooth the transition & chat through any issues which I agree with.

True, but the parent they're staying with can do that.

Besides, the other parent might not even have met the new partner.

CandiedPrincess · 03/06/2024 23:03

And know that once they get to the teenage years anyone who didn't put them first will be jettisoned.

I see this school of thought so much on MN and it's really not true. Majority of teenagers are too busy thinking about themselves to fret over this sort of stuff. They align themselves to whoever meets their needs in the way they want them met at that particular time.

Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 23:07

TwattyMcFuckFace · 03/06/2024 23:02

True, but the parent they're staying with can do that.

Besides, the other parent might not even have met the new partner.

I think the DC might be more open with the other parent if they aren’t happy about the situation. Then that parent could reassure them etc.

I don’t think they necessarily need to have met the new partner to help their DC through the transition.

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ARichtGoodDram · 03/06/2024 23:08

PattyDuckface · 03/06/2024 21:56

YANBU

It's so bizarre that people say you've no right to know. How the hell can that be true - you'd have a right to know if your child was on a school trip which adults were accompanying them.

People who say you've no right to know, is this just hyperbole or is this some mad law?

No school I ever worked in, in 20 years, ever sent parents a list of the staff and parent helpers going on a trip.

Parents are expected to trust that the school will have appropriate numbers and deal with safeguarding (ie not leaving children alone with people not DBS checked etc) appropriately.

Quite similar to the fact that the law doesn’t oblige people to tell their exes who they have around when the children are with them.

@Walking12345 I never told my ex when our girls were meeting DH. Likewise he never told me when he introduced any of his partners. If you have a good relationship then sharing info can be good for the children, and the other parent is ready for any questions, but there’s no legal right to know.

NewName24 · 03/06/2024 23:13

Maybe I should have phrased the post to say meeting DC rather than staying over.

That is even more ridiculous.
The parent the child is with doesn't get to screen every person the dc meet when they are with their other parents. Nor do they get a list, or a report or diary of everything that has happened.

Couples have split for a reason. Their personal lives do not need to be shared with each other once they are separate individuals. As long as there is no reason to believe there is neglect or abuse, it is none of the other parent's business.

Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 23:23

NewName24 · 03/06/2024 23:13

Maybe I should have phrased the post to say meeting DC rather than staying over.

That is even more ridiculous.
The parent the child is with doesn't get to screen every person the dc meet when they are with their other parents. Nor do they get a list, or a report or diary of everything that has happened.

Couples have split for a reason. Their personal lives do not need to be shared with each other once they are separate individuals. As long as there is no reason to believe there is neglect or abuse, it is none of the other parent's business.

Your opinion seems to be in the majority at the moment and I am genuinely interested in the overall view.

To me the DC meeting a new partner is much more than every ‘person’ they might meet & is very different to a diary of what has happened.

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LoopyPeanut · 03/06/2024 23:31

The fact is, you might want to but you don't have the right to.

ACynicalDad · 03/06/2024 23:40

I think it's the decent thing to do, but I don't think it's a right.

Kelly51 · 04/06/2024 00:21

I don't think it's any of your business, it suggests you think you're the parent who knows best.
99% of the time it's the ex wife demanding to meet/approve ex husbands new gf, but no doubt would be fuming if he asked it of her.

Orangeandgold · 04/06/2024 00:34

Depends on many factors. Of the parent is equally involved in DCs life - yes, they should know.

If not, then no, it won’t make a difference if they barely see their child.

MissTrip82 · 04/06/2024 00:57

Walking12345 · 03/06/2024 22:46

That seems very hypocritical to me.

Not really. People trot this out like it’s an amazing GOTCHA but in reality you can prefer to know without being foolish enough to think that constitutes a ‘right’.

To me, if a new partner is being introduced it’s best to inform the ex if possible as the children shouldn’t have to be the ones breaking the news that there’s a new partner or they they’ve met them. That’s just decent parenting. Knowing also helps the other parent to support the children when they come back from that introduction if they need it, having processed their own feelings first. It’s courteous behaviour consistent with a commitment to harmonious co-parenting.

This doesn’t mean I think anyone has a ‘right’ to know or even that it will always be best to share this information. It certainly doesn’t mean that anyone has a right to ‘say no’ to a new partner being introduced.

redalex261 · 04/06/2024 01:21

@Walking12345 Your questions are valid - I don’t know at what stage I would regard something as serious or if that would be the same for someone else, my preference would be to have relationship develop for a while without presence of kids then introduce them before moving to overnight stays.

I just don’t like the idea of introducing either a series of random short term partners to my child or even the odd one or two - I just don’t think it’s great for their emotional wellbeing.

I know loads are saying “oh my partner is a lovely responsible person, and would only introduce fabby new loves, so no need to tell me”. It just doesn’t wash - they are saying this while still living with the great partner. Presumably if they had split up it would be for a good reason so they would have a less positive view of their ex’s personality and judgement and would be more inclined to think they should know about new partners interacting with their kids.

I don’t think any of it is easy regardless. I don’t think introductions should happen without giving the other parent a heads up, not to give veto power (!) but to keep them in the loop about something impacting their child’s life.

Deathbyfluffy · 04/06/2024 01:22

AnneLovesGilbert · 03/06/2024 22:01

Most people want to know if it’s their ex and a new partner. Most people don’t think their ex has any rights when it’s their own new partner.

This.
I think they should, but it has to work both ways or all bets are off.

Walking12345 · 04/06/2024 06:08

Orangeandgold · 04/06/2024 00:34

Depends on many factors. Of the parent is equally involved in DCs life - yes, they should know.

If not, then no, it won’t make a difference if they barely see their child.

In the situation I’m referring to it’s 3 nights with one parent and 4 nights with the other.

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Walking12345 · 04/06/2024 06:12

MissTrip82 · 04/06/2024 00:57

Not really. People trot this out like it’s an amazing GOTCHA but in reality you can prefer to know without being foolish enough to think that constitutes a ‘right’.

To me, if a new partner is being introduced it’s best to inform the ex if possible as the children shouldn’t have to be the ones breaking the news that there’s a new partner or they they’ve met them. That’s just decent parenting. Knowing also helps the other parent to support the children when they come back from that introduction if they need it, having processed their own feelings first. It’s courteous behaviour consistent with a commitment to harmonious co-parenting.

This doesn’t mean I think anyone has a ‘right’ to know or even that it will always be best to share this information. It certainly doesn’t mean that anyone has a right to ‘say no’ to a new partner being introduced.

I agree with all of this except I think you should be consistent ie if you’d want to know then you should also tell your ex when in the same situation (although I do agree there could be exceptions to this).

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