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DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:19

I’m adopted. I’ve known since I was old enough to know. My brother is also adopted, completely different adoption.

i hope this won’t be too long.

My parents moved to a part of the country where wages are low and career prospects very poor when we were young. Neither them of my brother are academic, but I was from the start. At the age of 23 I realised I was doomed to working in catering for shit wages and for shit hours, so I took the decision to join the military, and had a wonderful (mainly) 17 years. I met my husband through work, he’s not originally from the UK, and I left the forces on redundancy after having 2 children.

They didn’t come to our wedding, making excuses, but they eventually admitted it was ‘because we thought he was just after a passport’.

My mum had always not liked my ‘leaving them’ to join up, but when I was pregnant with my first child it really ramped up once she realised we had no plans to move back to where they lived. Comments got bitchier and bitchier, they rarely visited, and when they did they would only stay overnight,or 2 nights at most. We visited them, although it got progressively more difficult and expensive as they had got themselves into debt buying a property in Spain, taking out 2 loans, using all the money from selling their home in the UK as well as cashing in my Dad’s pension. We always felt in the way when we went to visit, they’d spend a day with us and then ask us what we were doing for the rest of the time, making it clear they wanted us out of the house and they didn’t want to join us. On one occasion my Dad blew up at my husband and threatened to hit him ‘for sneering’ and they both really ripped into my husband. My mum said all the trouble and misunderstanding was caused because we didn’t live near them.

The last time I saw the was around 10 years ago, we booked to go and stay near them, asked them to help us find a campsite, they didn’t so we chose one off the internet which failed to state it was on the top of a bloody cliff, on sloping fields. The weather was horrific, wind and rain and it was awful. At the time they had a spare room, but didn’t offer it for the kids, and they had a caravanette me and DH could have kept dry in. We went home early, my mum was incandescent and a week later she called me and proceeded to lay into every aspect of me, my family, my career, house…everything. I didn’t speak to her for months. Eventually I felt so consumed by it all I got back in touch.

From that point I was low contact and shared little info with her, just civil talking with no real details. Things were calm if impersonal. Last year I felt strong enough to go and see them so booked an AirBnB and arranged the time off. At 5am the day I was meant to travel mum rang and said I couldn’t come, all sorts of contradictory reasons. I felt really, really rejected and it distanced me from them even more.

Last week, for some stupid reason, they started moaning about problems they were having with their laptop, and an app they have for something to do with the property in Spain. My brother is on the finance for it, and they are very clear it will be his (not sure if they still owe anything on it or not) when they are gone. I offered to help them with the app, they got very defensive and my mum basically had a hissy fit and refused to speak. Their tech knowledge is very low, and they are constantly asking how to do things with their phones etc. so the way they acted was quite odd. I felt pushed out, again. I to,d them that’s how they’d made me feel.

Things calmed down and mum asked when we could speak. I called on Friday and had an hour of them explaining that because I moved away ‘and am not interested in them’ I’ve excluded myself which is why they’ve given my brother full POA, executor etc etc. He lives about 50 miles from them, has never moved since he moved in with his partner. My father said that I haven’t earnt any involvement in anything to do with them as I’ve decided not to live near them. I asked them if they had friends with kids who lived away ‘no, they all live near, they’re not all consumed with their jobs, money and ambition.

I’m rambling into details that probably mean nothing, but I can’t explain how low, hurt and rejected I feel. I feel like they’re punishing me for wanting success for me and my family. My husband just wishes I could cut them off entirely, and honestly, I wish I could.

My brother and I speak rarely, Mum says he remembers me being bossy with him when we were kids so gives me a wide berth. On other occasions she says he just doesn’t think.

I feel fucking flattened and don’t know how to feel better.

please be gentle.

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DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:23

Anyone? Active moving fast tonight and I’m tumbling down the page

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LordSnot · 03/06/2024 21:23

I'm sorry. It sounds like you did nothing wrong except follow your own path and make the best of your potential and not the path they had envisaged for you. Good parents want children like you.

FetchezLaVache · 03/06/2024 21:28

It's them, not you. They sound like really awful people and for your own good you should consider cutting ties, or at least going v. low contact. Your DH and kids are your family now.

DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:28

Thanks for responding @LordSnot I feel so lonely and bereft. I feel rejected by them having already not been kept by my bm

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2dogsandabudgie · 03/06/2024 21:29

I agree with your husband on this one. I would go no contact with them. They are just making your life miserable.

Calliopespa · 03/06/2024 21:30

I’m sorry oP that they seem unable to embrace your decisions, which have not been unreasonable.

As an objective outsider, it comes across to me that they feel a bit insecure, as though you might feel they are inferior in their choices and lifestyle and that you were more academic and keen to move away. I wonder if the adoption aspect complicates this: maybe they are touchy as they harbour an insecurity that you might have preferred/ could have done better with different family. Your brother seems to challenge them less. I don’t see it’s anything you have done particularly, but people are sensitive and at their worst when their insecurity is pricked .

DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:30

Honestly, I’m sitting here crying. It’s the most basic relationship, parents, and this is what they think of me.

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LordSnot · 03/06/2024 21:32

DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:28

Thanks for responding @LordSnot I feel so lonely and bereft. I feel rejected by them having already not been kept by my bm

My friend was adopted and is in a similar situation with her mum, who doesn't treat her well. I can see how complicated her emotions are. I wish I had better advice but all I can say is I get it, I'm sorry, and I hope you can find security and joy in your partner and children. Your children will always choose you.

FictionalCharacter · 03/06/2024 21:34

I'm so sorry, this is just awful and they have been very cruel.
I agree with your husband. They don't seem to bring anything but pain to your life, and you'd be better off going NC or very LC rather than let them reject and upset you again and again and again.

Pippatpip · 03/06/2024 21:35

I know you. Want their approval and pride in what you have achieved but it just is not going to happen. You have other people in your life that celebrate you for being you. I think you could do with some counselling to help you separate things. Really, keeping them at arms length with minimum contact sounds like the best idea.

Calliopespa · 03/06/2024 21:36

DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:30

Honestly, I’m sitting here crying. It’s the most basic relationship, parents, and this is what they think of me.

The truth op is that adoption isn’t a basic relationship. It’s a wonderful thing people do for children, but can also be complicated on occasion. I honestly feel if you were their biological child the pride would be flowing more freely from them. That’s not your fault- and it’s actually not a sign they don’t love you. On the contrary, it’s an indication of how much you are able to affect them. I was struck by how your mum keeps “ coming back for more.” It’s a complicated interaction but not one where they don’t want you. I think it’s really the opposite: their insecurity about how much they mean to you. Life is complicated: that doesn’t make you at fault.

Pippatpip · 03/06/2024 21:36

Really sorry. A random full stop makes the first sentence creepy. I obviously don't know you at all! Should read. 'I know you want...'

Singlepringle1980 · 03/06/2024 21:37

I’m sorry you’re in this situation. It sounds like you’ve really tried to resolve things. Maybe now the focus should be the people who do show you love and respect and appreciate you for the person you have become. Sounds like you’ve achieved a lot and worked hard to provide for your children. Perhaps your parents feel intimidated by your success…but if they do that is their problem not yours.

TimeForTeaAndG · 03/06/2024 21:37

Some people think that anyone who tries to better themselves in any way has ideas above their station and why can't you just be happy in the same small town for the rest of your life. It's shit cos it means that you're either looked down on for trying to get out or you're miserable cos you stayed.

Well done on building yourself a decent life despite their negativity. I'm in agreement with your husband, they don't treat you well. You wouldn't (hopefully) let a friend or colleague treat you like this. They sound like awful people and I hope you find strength to back away from them and leave them to their own bitching and moaning.

DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:38

@Calliopespa they definitely act like they think we judge their choices. When we were growing up, Dad was self-employed and often out of work. Mum never really worked, money was always an awful struggle and one of my reasons for following the path I have is because I hated living like that, hated the rows, jumble sale clothes and having to put food back at the tills because we didn’t have enough money. They went bankrupt twice, having bought shops that went bust, and now live on just state pension. It feels sometimes like they want us to follow their actions, to take us into their standard of living - mum is down-talking my youngest’s aspirations around university and it feels like she wants her to fail.

I wish I could just stop feeling so sad about it all.

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Calliopespa · 03/06/2024 21:38

Pippatpip · 03/06/2024 21:36

Really sorry. A random full stop makes the first sentence creepy. I obviously don't know you at all! Should read. 'I know you want...'

Yes it did! Took me a moment to read that post correctly !🤣

Smithhy · 03/06/2024 21:40

They don’t deserve to be in yours or your DCs lives.

Go no contact and move on with your life. It will hurt to begin with but it will get easier every day. You are protecting your children from these toxic people.

DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:42

@Pippatpip I must admit, I had a little panic when I read that! Thank you

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Josette77 · 03/06/2024 21:42

I get it. I'm so sorry.

I think being adopted is a hard "abandonment" to get through, and then having abusive adoptive parents is crushing on another level.

It just compiles the rejection, abandonment, not feeling good enough.

YOU are doing a great job living a beautiful life for you and your kids.

Your parents issues have nothing to do with you.

Bonbon21 · 03/06/2024 21:43

In relationshops my mantra is as follows..
Would you accept this behaviour from anyone not related to you.. a work colleague, a 'friend'...?
If your best friend told you this was happening to her, what would your response be?

You dont have to like someone just because they are 'related' to you.
And these people do not deserve you or your concern for them.
Let them go, you have made a good life for yourself through your own efforts, your husband sounds lovely and YOUR family are the most important thing in the world.
Focus on that and be proud of you.

Aquamarine1029 · 03/06/2024 21:43

My husband just wishes I could cut them off entirely, and honestly, I wish I could.

Your husband is right, and you definitely can. These people don't add a single positive thing to your life.

Cut them out and invest in therapy.

Calliopespa · 03/06/2024 21:45

DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:38

@Calliopespa they definitely act like they think we judge their choices. When we were growing up, Dad was self-employed and often out of work. Mum never really worked, money was always an awful struggle and one of my reasons for following the path I have is because I hated living like that, hated the rows, jumble sale clothes and having to put food back at the tills because we didn’t have enough money. They went bankrupt twice, having bought shops that went bust, and now live on just state pension. It feels sometimes like they want us to follow their actions, to take us into their standard of living - mum is down-talking my youngest’s aspirations around university and it feels like she wants her to fail.

I wish I could just stop feeling so sad about it all.

I think you are right about them feeling judged. Not saying you are judging, but your strength in following a different path shows them you are made of sterner stuff. With you not being their biological child, that could feel like a judgment. I admire your choices and ambition for your dc. Try to see their bitterness comes from a place of their weakness not yours. I’m sure deep down they love and admire you but it’s too sensitive a topic for them to wonder what it is that has enabled you to depart from a path they were stuck on. I think they feel they failed you and that you succeeded despite them, not because of them. But that isn’t really true: you needed them when you were little. They sheltered you even if it was a struggle for them. Adoption really is an extraordinary thing people do for a child.

Sago1 · 03/06/2024 21:45

This is a sad story and not your fault.
I think this has little to do with the fact you’re adopted, your mother sounds like a narc and like all narcs there is a golden child, your brother.
Your parents clearly didnt have the emotional intelligence to raise a family.
You did the right thing leaving home when you did, I guess they hate the fact you bettered yourself.
My mother was a narc, I could never do the right thing, the more I tried the nastier she got, you will never please them.

Interestingly my husband was adopted, his adoptive parents were kind and loving, his birth mother found him in 2005, she was a huge narc, he realises he was much better off being brought up with his adoptive parents.

DejectedRejected · 03/06/2024 21:49

I did some therapy several years ago for something else, interestingly just as part of talking about things the counsellor said ‘oh, so your mum is a narcissist’, also calling my brother the ‘golden child’.

I have read up on it and there are lots of traits there, the worst being compulsive lying and exaggerating to make her point ‘win’, however outlandish some of the claims.

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Dogwithtoebeans · 03/06/2024 21:52

I can’t offer any pearls of wisdom but just offering solidarity from one to another who knows a little of what it’s like. Be kind to yourself and remember all the things you have achieved with your family, even though it feels difficult 💐