To think level crossing cameras should cover the whole area around

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Some kids nearly got hit locally to me yes I know they shouldn’t have been there however I would have thought the cctv covered the whole are. However I’ve discovered that it only covers the person checking if the crossing is clear to allow the train to pass. AIBU to find this dangerous as people could walk out from further along.

They could walk out elsewhere, but the crossing is where they are supposed to cross, hence the cameras.
If they choose not to cross at the crossing, what are the company supposed to do? They can’t set camera up along the whole area, why should they have to pay additional costs like this? People have to take some responsibility for themselves.

Trespassing on a railway is illegal as well as incredibly dangerous & stupid.
None of the level crossings near me have any cameras at all & some don't even have barriers.
Where were the parents while their DC were trespassing?

They were teens so I guess they were alone. It also surely would reduce the risk of people taking their own life if they had cameras.

A camera on the crossing is also checking for a broken down car for example.

People messing around can potentially get on the line everywhere
Same with roads.... we had teens messing around on a dual carriageway a few months ago.

They're watching the crossing. They can't have cameras the entire length of a line. Kids can be stupid anywhere. Teenagers need to take a bit of responsibility. If they nearly got hit by a train messing about on a place they weren't supposed to be, it's disingenuous of you to blame the rail company for not watching everywhere.

I can’t see what difference it would make . Trespassing on the line would just move to further on past the cameras . No level crossings on the line near us , unfortunately trespassers got killed last week , short of someone monitoring the whole line all the time these things happen when people mess around on rail lines.

Do you have any idea how many miles of train line there is in this country? Well it's 10072.

Even if each camera would cover half a mile that would be over 20000 cameras. Who would monitor these? Not the signallers as they are working hard enough just keeping the trains running normally.

Would you be happy for your ticket costs to rise a whole bunch to employ 6000 camera operators, not to mention the cost of installing and maintaining? (that's assuming an operator could effectively monitor 10 cameras at a time, 3 shifts to cover 24 hours)

Everyone knows the railway is bloody dangerous. Can't blame the railway for idiots being idiotic.

I'm not sure how that would actually work, the level crossing I use on a fairly regular basis has the barriers down for ages before the train passess through so plenty of time for people to come along.

That’s why I deem them unsafe

The signalman's job is to check the crossing is clear. They can't supervise the entire block section just in case someone's kids are messing around.

Pretty sure a Darwin award would cover it.

How would this work? A train can't just stop if people are on the line - the stopping distance of a train, on average, is at least a mile.

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The whole rail network?
And motorways?
Actually any road?
Building sites?
Rivers?

You can put up barriers, put up signs, lock gates... but ultimately people have to take personal responsibility to not mess around in dangerous places.

Because it should be stopped further up the line and not be allowed to travel down

They don't have people sitting and watching the cameras live. You can request footage, but only after any incident has already occurred.

Cameras also wouldn't deter people from ending their life. If they're about to end their life on a railway (or anywhere ) they'll be in no fit state to care about Cameras.

The train that hits them will more than likely capture it on CCTV anyway.

well they would be caught before they got hit is what I’m saying

I can think of at least 3 unmanned, unbarriered level crossings within 1 mile of here plus one (at the station ) with barriers. Only the one with the barriers has cameras as it's at the railway station. The train drivers are supposed to blast their horn as they approach the others, but they don't always do it!

You're not appreciating the logistics of stopping a train. The line is not continuously signalled, and the stopping distance means that a train has to go through a double yellow and then a yellow to have time to slow down and stop safely at the red. Slamming on the emergency brake is a danger in itself to driver and passengers; there is a risk of the train derailing. Not to mention that stopping a train will mess up the train behind it because it will have to stop as well; and likely cause delays to all subsequent services and even other lines because once the train crew is delayed, they are not in a position to join other trains when they should.

But they wouldn't. The cameras aren't manned like you'd expect them to be. They're recording and you can request footage but there isn't someone looking at a screen constantly watching.

Play stupid games win stupid prizes

I think there should be it’s a very high risk location

It says this particular one has a signaller that presses if it’s clear

Do you posses any critical thinking?