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More and more thread deletions.

97 replies

SneezedToothOut · 02/06/2024 18:01

Is it just me? There seems to be a growing willingness by Mumsnet HQ to delete threads when posters ask.

Myself and others have spent significant time today trying to help a poster get into a better position for her children and poof, it’s disappeared because the “OP felt it was too identifying”. Ironically we were needing more than the scant info posted to properly help.

Feels really disrespectful to other posters to just wipe out a thread like that, and I thought Mumsnet was pretty tough on when threads could and couldn’t be deleted.

It’s happening more and more.

OP posts:
WilliamButt · 02/06/2024 22:30

I asked Mumsnet to delete a thread once because my partner was sitting next to me on the sofa and showed me my thread and asked if it was me. Never heard a word from them and the thread is still up (under a different account as I got suspended but that's a different story).

niadainud · 02/06/2024 22:34

Yet when I asked for a thread to be deleted as I was finding some of the responses upsetting I was told, "We don't generally delete threads, though, unless they're libellous or racist or otherwise break the law." Which is clearly bollocks.

lavenderlou · 02/06/2024 22:37

I can see why people might ask for a thread to be deleted if they have put personal information on there. Sometimes I really cant understand the deletions though and there is no other information than "breaking talk guidelines". I was on a thread that asked when the first election you voted in was and that has been deleted for breaking talk guidelines. I really can't see telling people how you voted 30 years ago can be worth deleting a whole thread for.

PiranhaPeaches · 02/06/2024 22:43

lavenderlou · 02/06/2024 22:37

I can see why people might ask for a thread to be deleted if they have put personal information on there. Sometimes I really cant understand the deletions though and there is no other information than "breaking talk guidelines". I was on a thread that asked when the first election you voted in was and that has been deleted for breaking talk guidelines. I really can't see telling people how you voted 30 years ago can be worth deleting a whole thread for.

Edited

Again - seemingly innocuous threads asking "when did you do X?" "What's the last thing you bought?" "Where were you born" are almost certainly attempts to get data for research or article fodder which is not allowed.

Some of them could also be an attempt to get enough information to get people's passwords and hack accounts. Just like all the apparently harmless Facebook spam "what was your first pets name" etc etc.

TeenLifeMum · 02/06/2024 22:46

I may be wrong but if someone feels they can be identified then GDPR gives you the right to be forgotten, so mnet have to delete.

Bloody annoying though.

Cupcake333333 · 02/06/2024 22:49

WilliamButt · 02/06/2024 22:30

I asked Mumsnet to delete a thread once because my partner was sitting next to me on the sofa and showed me my thread and asked if it was me. Never heard a word from them and the thread is still up (under a different account as I got suspended but that's a different story).

Do tell... or maybe don't.. we don't want to end up deleted on a thread about getting deleted 🤦‍♀️

WhyamInotvomiting · 02/06/2024 22:52

Demonhunter · 02/06/2024 18:11

Tbh I think the fact MNHQ has to approve a thread deletion is pretty strict control enough. I don't know any other platform that doesn't allow people to delete a post they start whenever they want (I.e. reddit allows you to delete your post but the comments remain) What does it matter if your advice was purely to help the OP and not for the attention and thanks? They may have taken on board your words before deletion so surely that's enough?

I agree with this. I've occasionally requested posts be deleted as I've posted and then thought better and worried they might be out me. I don't think I've ever asked for a thread to be deleted but it's a comfort that the option is there. I'd post less and be less open if I didn't have confidence that MN would support me in respecting my privacy if I had second thoughts about something. I'm glad they take the approach they do. I wouldn't want any negative consequences to happen to any posters who may have become worried about their posts later.

Cupcake333333 · 02/06/2024 22:54

niadainud · 02/06/2024 22:34

Yet when I asked for a thread to be deleted as I was finding some of the responses upsetting I was told, "We don't generally delete threads, though, unless they're libellous or racist or otherwise break the law." Which is clearly bollocks.

I wonder if the amount of traffic on the site has something to do with it. Maybe back in the day they were stricter as there were fewer threads... .maybe if the site is busy they can afford to delete, however personally I also think if someone really wants their thread taken down then that needs to be respected. We'd all want that right in any situation if for some reason we needed that.

Arconialiving · 02/06/2024 22:58

Toastjusttoast · 02/06/2024 22:07

I assume they get cold feet about putting their personal problem online, that seems pretty sensible to me! Delete away.

This was why I asked for a thread to be deleted - I posted about a very personal issue & then totally got cold feet as it could have completely blown my life apart had I been identified in real life. Thankfully MN deleted it pretty quickly once asked (which was within about a half hour after posting and had only had a half dozen or so replies).

I'm glad they allow deletions although do get that it's frustrating if you've invested time in responding.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 03/06/2024 00:26

@WilliamButt did you admit to your partner or lie? Was it about your relationship?

Garlicker · 03/06/2024 02:32

StayForever · 02/06/2024 18:50

This sounds so self indulgent. To be perfectly honest the world will keep on turning without your advice.

When I see these sorts of posts I think they’re more about posters wanting to feel superior to someone and feel good about themselves, by wanting the full story on someone else struggling. Like when posters moan that the OP didn’t give them an update. It’s like they see it as entertainment when it’s actually someone’s real life. If it’s not a made up thread of course, which is another reason not to get too invested anyway!

You're devaluing the reasons many of us take part in MN. It's been a tremendous help to me while I was going through some tricky stuff - even my therapist was impressed by Mumsnet wisdom - and I do my best to give back in like measure.

If I'm investing thought & effort in a reply, I do consider lurkers and hope my post may be useful to someone in the future. It pisses me off no end when threads just disappear on a spurious excuse, after dozens of people have taken the trouble to write considered replies.

I was annoyed at the emergency supplies thread going poof today, but not as much as when it's a more in-depth discussion. I hardly think the amount of canned food in my kitchen will change anyone's life! But it's irritating all the same. It feels a bit "Thanks for that, now fuck off".

If all anyone wanted from MN was a stream of inconsequential chat that quickly disappears, they may as well stick to commenting on Insta/TikTok posts.

CHEESEY13 · 03/06/2024 02:38

Classic Moving-The-Goalposts.......

Mumtobabyhavoc · 03/06/2024 05:30

SneezedToothOut · 02/06/2024 18:11

We couldn’t even advise her on the most basic question due to lack of detail. There was nothing identifying whatsoever.

I think it is really commendable that you care. If the issue was as serious as it seems I'd assume OP was nervous about being identified regardless of what other posters thought. Even in an anonymous forum, for someone in crisis, it can be a huge and scary step to post. Well done you for offering sincere advice. 👏

Scurryfunge12 · 03/06/2024 05:51

To be honest, I think if someone’s created a thread, they should be able to get it deleted for whatever reason they wish if they don’t feel comfortable with it. I mean yes, when you post, you run the risk of it not going how you want, but the point of posting on here is getting a feel of the general consensus and once you have, why the need to keep it standing?

I posted on here around a year ago about something quite trivial really - against my better judgement - under a different username, and whilst I could understand partly why I got the reaction I got (I didn’t come across well thinking back to how I framed the post) I got absolutely ripped to shreds and told I was an absolutely vile human being etc and it got to me quite a bit. I needed it deleted so I didn’t keep being quoted and piled on. The reaction was really disproportionate to my transgression.

Equally, if someone is anxious that something they said is outing (even if not) if it makes them feel better to have it deleted then why not? People can regret posting, and being able to rescind a post when they feel it necessary makes it MN feel more welcoming and safer. You can post on any other form of social media and delete, why not this? It doesn’t always need to stay up for entertainment.

StayForever · 03/06/2024 05:51

Garlicker · 03/06/2024 02:32

You're devaluing the reasons many of us take part in MN. It's been a tremendous help to me while I was going through some tricky stuff - even my therapist was impressed by Mumsnet wisdom - and I do my best to give back in like measure.

If I'm investing thought & effort in a reply, I do consider lurkers and hope my post may be useful to someone in the future. It pisses me off no end when threads just disappear on a spurious excuse, after dozens of people have taken the trouble to write considered replies.

I was annoyed at the emergency supplies thread going poof today, but not as much as when it's a more in-depth discussion. I hardly think the amount of canned food in my kitchen will change anyone's life! But it's irritating all the same. It feels a bit "Thanks for that, now fuck off".

If all anyone wanted from MN was a stream of inconsequential chat that quickly disappears, they may as well stick to commenting on Insta/TikTok posts.

You also sound over invested and as a pp said, you should take mumsnets advice of not giving more than you can.

StayForever · 03/06/2024 05:55

It doesn’t always need to stay up for entertainment.

I do think that’s the reason lots of posters want it left up. They just hide behind this ‘I’ve given great advice and want it left up for others’. Seriously, get a grip, your advice isn’t that important and will probably be said hundreds of times elsewhere on the site by other posters on different threads anyway.

TurquoiseDress · 03/06/2024 06:09

Serencwtch · 02/06/2024 18:29

Moral of the story is don't get over invested or too personally involved and remember that MN or any other social media isn't real life & posts are often not the full story anyway.

Yep totally this all over!!

WilliamButt · 03/06/2024 06:39

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 03/06/2024 00:26

@WilliamButt did you admit to your partner or lie? Was it about your relationship?

It was indirectly about our relationship - embarrassing rather than relationship-ending, but I worried that he would do an advanced search.

liveforsummer · 03/06/2024 06:41

Sometimes they don't even pretend. Recently there have been threads where it just says 'at posters request' agree it can be pretty annoying and then every now and then one is left to run when a poster has clearly asked for it to be deleted and it's clearly 'no longer helping them' which is given as an other reason for some threads to vanish. Odd!

justasking111 · 03/06/2024 08:47

WilliamButt · 02/06/2024 22:30

I asked Mumsnet to delete a thread once because my partner was sitting next to me on the sofa and showed me my thread and asked if it was me. Never heard a word from them and the thread is still up (under a different account as I got suspended but that's a different story).

I did wonder if partners sometimes found threads. You answered my question thanks.

StopStartStop · 03/06/2024 08:48

ConfusedConfuse · 02/06/2024 18:07

The what was the last thing you bought from Amazon thread was deleted for breaking talk guidelines anyone know why? 🤔

And 'the last thing you watched on youtube'

Janiie · 03/06/2024 08:51

StayForever · 03/06/2024 05:51

You also sound over invested and as a pp said, you should take mumsnets advice of not giving more than you can.

Indeed. If posters think their input is this important then they really need to log off.

It. Doesn't . Matter.

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