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... to be over the moon that Trump has been found GUILTY on all 34 charges?

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 30/05/2024 22:11

Whoop whoop!

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BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:21

The point is (as the documents reveal which I suggest people understand before judging) is that his son and him are closely linked, his son does business deals and leverages his father's power (China, you give me money and I'll use my dad to get XYZ to happen)

His father is now completely senile - recent videos of him saying he was vice president in the pandemic and Obama sent him to Detroit (??!) He is speaking like an old man with dementia, which he appears to be. So someone else is in control, not him.

The files make it seem that there were dodgy dealing around the Ukraine war, with the Biden family profiting off the war. Making money from bloodshed.

Falsifying business records is indeed no good, but pales in comparison with what Hunter's Laptop reveals.

So WHY, is everyone talking about falsified business records, and not the huge scale corruption and blood money?

It's an interesting question.

WiddlinDiddlin · 30/05/2024 23:21

I am hopeful he spends some time in jail, I think it would be a pretty strong justification that there reason to believe would not respect any other measure (basically anything where he has any sort of choice, he will piss all over it).

But even if not... this means for all the OTHER cases coming up, he no longer has the 'no previous convictions' status, which means sentencing is likely to be much harsher.

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/05/2024 23:23

Viviennemary · Today 23:10
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They are determined to stop him winning the election It's perfectly obvious.”

Oh mate …..

Here are some straws to clutch at …..

tobee · 30/05/2024 23:24

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:21

The point is (as the documents reveal which I suggest people understand before judging) is that his son and him are closely linked, his son does business deals and leverages his father's power (China, you give me money and I'll use my dad to get XYZ to happen)

His father is now completely senile - recent videos of him saying he was vice president in the pandemic and Obama sent him to Detroit (??!) He is speaking like an old man with dementia, which he appears to be. So someone else is in control, not him.

The files make it seem that there were dodgy dealing around the Ukraine war, with the Biden family profiting off the war. Making money from bloodshed.

Falsifying business records is indeed no good, but pales in comparison with what Hunter's Laptop reveals.

So WHY, is everyone talking about falsified business records, and not the huge scale corruption and blood money?

It's an interesting question.

Yeah yeah yeah.

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:24

Journalists reporting in the Hunter Biden laptop have been fired and silenced, and newspapers have kept the story quiet? WHY? it's literally the biggest political story imaginable about the CURRENT sitting president.

But the papers are going out of their way making a circus about Trump.

doesn't anyone else think that's fishy?

Matt Taibbi is the journalist who revealed the documents. He has a book but listening to himsoeka is easier to understand what they revealed.

dapsnotplimsolls · 30/05/2024 23:25

Someone's got their tinfoil hat on.

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:25

dapsnotplimsolls · 30/05/2024 23:25

Someone's got their tinfoil hat on.

No, it's just alled politics. You'd have to be pretty dull to think everything is above board and as it seems

tobee · 30/05/2024 23:26

Looking forward to the other 3 criminal cases happening soon.

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/05/2024 23:26

Does this mean Nigel Farage will spend less or more time in the UK between now and election day?Confused

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:27

Sadly people generally do not pay attention, ask questions, or look deeply at matters, but just happily receive whatever headlines their fed and feel informed on matter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

tobee · 30/05/2024 23:28

Ive read everything about Hunter's laptop long ago.

Scruffily · 30/05/2024 23:29

@BlessedKali, if you think Biden sounds senile you cannot have been listening to Trump lately.

BloodandGlitter · 30/05/2024 23:31

@BlessedKali I think they should be talking more about the files Trump gave to the Russians. The ones that lead to the deaths of American intelligence officers.

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:32

Scruffily · 30/05/2024 23:29

@BlessedKali, if you think Biden sounds senile you cannot have been listening to Trump lately.

Trump sounds egotistical, unhinged.

Biden sounds senile. like ACTUALLY senile, not in the exaggerated sense, but in a real description of someone suffering from Alzheimer's.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Bvkr164Zs&pp=ygUUQmlkZW4gcGFuZGVtaWMgb2JhbWE%3D

there's one clip

Biden bizarrely suggests he was VP during pandemic in latest blunder

President Biden bizarrely declared Sunday that things got “kinda bad” when he was vice president during the pandemic — even though COVID-19 hit three years a...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?pp=ygUUQmlkZW4gcGFuZGVtaWMgb2JhbWE%3D&v=a2Bvkr164Zs

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:32

tobee · 30/05/2024 23:28

Ive read everything about Hunter's laptop long ago.

Sure you did

tobee · 30/05/2024 23:33

Why would I lie? Don't be so silly.

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:33

BloodandGlitter · 30/05/2024 23:31

@BlessedKali I think they should be talking more about the files Trump gave to the Russians. The ones that lead to the deaths of American intelligence officers.

There's nothing there, because if there was they would have gone in hard on that evidence as he is being absolutely gunned for.This stormy Daniels/business deal thing is the worst they could pin on him.

I'm not saying like trump, but it's clear he is being witchhunted, whilst a far greater crime is being swept under the carpet

TooBigForMyBoots · 30/05/2024 23:34

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:27

Sadly people generally do not pay attention, ask questions, or look deeply at matters, but just happily receive whatever headlines their fed and feel informed on matter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Unfortunately you're right @BlessedKali. Trump supporters will not look beyond the utterances of Trump. It's a scary prospect for Americans, so many "believers" with so many guns.Sad

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:35

tobee · 30/05/2024 23:33

Why would I lie? Don't be so silly.

because you have not yet added anything of value to this conversation, because no one actually says 'I read EVERYTHING ages ago', and because I highly doubt you read the book by Miranda Devine.

tobee · 30/05/2024 23:36

Looking forward to you adding something of value @BlessedKali

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:37

It is bonkers that 'the most advanced' nation I the world (debatable) with the largest weapons has an option of only these two to head it.

BUT, out of these two shit options.. I reckon Trump is better.

GrumpyPanda · 30/05/2024 23:37

HarryPottersScar · 30/05/2024 22:24

If he does become president, can he pardon himself?

Not on this, it's state charges not federal. Assuming he even could on federal, but anything possible with this SCOTUS.

tobee · 30/05/2024 23:37

"because no one actually says 'I read EVERYTHING ages ago',

I just did. Don't be so silly.

LivelyBlake · 30/05/2024 23:38

Alan Dershowitz gave a fascinating interview a couple of weeks ago about the trial.

BloodandGlitter · 30/05/2024 23:39

BlessedKali · 30/05/2024 23:33

There's nothing there, because if there was they would have gone in hard on that evidence as he is being absolutely gunned for.This stormy Daniels/business deal thing is the worst they could pin on him.

I'm not saying like trump, but it's clear he is being witchhunted, whilst a far greater crime is being swept under the carpet

So him admitting he did it and saying he was absolutely right to do it is no evidence?
There's an entire Wikipedia article on his many disclosures of classified information.