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20 year old daughter having to spend night at JFK airport.

285 replies

DaughterStranded · 27/05/2024 21:43

Not an AIBU, but posting for traffic as really worried.
20 year old DD has arrived at JFK airport to find connecting flight to South Carolina cancelled due to signalling issues. The next connecting flight will go 7am tomorrow morning. There are no earlier flights to any nearby airports available.
DD has decided to spend the night at JFK airport. I am worried she will fall asleep and get robbed of her phone/money. Anyone else had this situation to deal with? Any advice or tips anyone?

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Erdinger · 28/05/2024 13:29

Okeydokedeva · 28/05/2024 13:26

At tat age I slept overnight with a friend at the airport in Bangkok and we were fine. It’s all part of the adventure.

Oh yeah with a friend ? 20 years ago. Not the same

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 13:31

flyinghen · 28/05/2024 13:26

I had this situation but in Chicago, the airline will provide her with accommodation and transport and also meal vouchers. If she's refusing to accept that then that's her choice, shes a grown adult. I know that's not easy to hear and I'd be worried. Perhaps she's thinking that the flight being so early she would struggle to get back and sleep etc so she'd rather just stay there. Maybe she's planning on staying awake? What time is it there now?

@flyinghen She asked airline Jetblue for assistance and they refused. They said it was signalling issues caused by factors outside their control and that they weren't obliged to offer help in this situation.

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AllyCart · 28/05/2024 13:31

the airline will provide her with accommodation and transport and also meal vouchers.

Thats completely airline dependent when it's the US. And Jetblue is the Ryanair of the USA.

flyinghen · 28/05/2024 13:35

AllyCart · 28/05/2024 13:31

the airline will provide her with accommodation and transport and also meal vouchers.

Thats completely airline dependent when it's the US. And Jetblue is the Ryanair of the USA.

Ah right, I was flying with American Airlines. That's rubbish OP. I've just had a look through and seen people saying you've got a hotel for her? What a great mum!

AllyCart · 28/05/2024 13:35

Just to add, I work in the US multiple times per year and have had many delays/cancellations.

Even if you're booked with someone like Virgin Atlantic if there's a connecting flight to get you to your Virgin flight, which you've actually booked through VA but it's with a codeshare partner (eg Delta), you're getting sod all if the connection gets cancelled and screws up your other flights.

It's not the UK/EU.

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 13:38

AllyCart · 28/05/2024 13:35

Just to add, I work in the US multiple times per year and have had many delays/cancellations.

Even if you're booked with someone like Virgin Atlantic if there's a connecting flight to get you to your Virgin flight, which you've actually booked through VA but it's with a codeshare partner (eg Delta), you're getting sod all if the connection gets cancelled and screws up your other flights.

It's not the UK/EU.

@AllyCart Not good 😕

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existentialpain · 28/05/2024 13:40

Jesus Christ. It's certainly isn't a crime to worry and care about a young adult being stranded at an airport! I would have felt very vulnerable in that situation at 20 and my mum would have been worried about me and absolutely paid for a hotel if needed.

Why so much vitrol for caring ? Honestly think this sort of thing must hit a raw nerve with people who didn't have that sort ot support from a parent.

Glad you were able to help your DD, op

AllyCart · 28/05/2024 13:41

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 13:38

@AllyCart Not good 😕

Yep. It's a different world with regard to compensation/assistance, unfortunately.

Was interested to read up-thread that it's apparently changed/changing, though. I haven't heard about that and not yet seen anything about it from corporate travel co's, etc.

Ncadviceforthebag · 28/05/2024 13:47

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 09:34

@N4ish If she was travelling with someone, I would have been happy for DD to rough it and sleep in the airport overnight as they would have been able to look out for each other and take it in turns to sleep and watch each other's bags. However, as DD travelling alone, the risk of falling asleep and having her valuables stolen is too great for my liking. I also didn't want her jumping in taxis and going round NYC on her own.
I am all for building DC resilience, but we all have to decide what level of risk we are comfortable with.
I have recently retired after working 40+ years. To me, the point of all that hard work was to build up sufficient financial reserves to dig myself or my family out of a hole if necessary. In my eyes, this was one such situation where I felt that the expense was worth it for peace of mind.

My parents would have been like that PP and I wish they were more like you! And I will be to my own children.

ShrubRose · 28/05/2024 13:49

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 09:34

@N4ish If she was travelling with someone, I would have been happy for DD to rough it and sleep in the airport overnight as they would have been able to look out for each other and take it in turns to sleep and watch each other's bags. However, as DD travelling alone, the risk of falling asleep and having her valuables stolen is too great for my liking. I also didn't want her jumping in taxis and going round NYC on her own.
I am all for building DC resilience, but we all have to decide what level of risk we are comfortable with.
I have recently retired after working 40+ years. To me, the point of all that hard work was to build up sufficient financial reserves to dig myself or my family out of a hole if necessary. In my eyes, this was one such situation where I felt that the expense was worth it for peace of mind.

Agree completely.

Yes, it might have been OK. And yes, it might possibly have contributed in some small way to building DD's resilience. But some things are just not worth worrying about, and to my mind, that includes allowing a young woman to sleep alone on a chair in a big-city airport.

saltinesandcoffeecups · 28/05/2024 13:55

Glad it all worked out @DaughterStranded

Ignore the resilience brigade out there. There’s a time and a place for that and as a woman who has done some pretty questionable things when left on my own at that age… JFK at night or wandering off to find a hotel is not something I would do even in my ahem advanced years and maturity.

With a friend.. yes then it’s a grand adventure. Tired and alone yeah not so much.

Thanks for the feedback on the hotel too!

ArnottL · 28/05/2024 13:57

Book a hotel for her for the night.

PlateSpinningLessons · 28/05/2024 13:59

There are plugs at airport to charge mobile phones
Should find free water filling stations near washrooms
Should be able to find chairs or floor to sleep on
Shops to buy food, books, magazines

No need for a hotel

All the comforts & facilities of a big airport

LlynTegid · 28/05/2024 14:05

Glad to read you found a way to get something.

Lesson learnt about choosing cowboy airlines. Have the plan B ready for any such trips in future.

Trainsplanesautomobiles · 28/05/2024 14:09

DaughterStranded · 28/05/2024 08:44

@MariaLuna I knew when I posted in AIBU that I would get at least one post like yours! There seems to be a theme on MN of some posters feel that it is a crime to provide any help to DC once they hit the golden age of 18.
Fortunately for me, the overwhelming majority of posters have been kind and helpful and have provided a wealth of useful information which has been extremely useful.

Totally understandable. There is absolutely nothing on this earth that would make me less concerned about my children regardless of age. As long as I have breath in my body I'll be there for them as will their father, well done OP.

TheCompactPussycat · 28/05/2024 14:23

EmilyTheCriminal · 28/05/2024 07:48

This.

I slept on the floor at airports many times as a young traveller.

It never once occurred to me to contact Mummy for help!

What have we done to the younger generation? It really worries me.

Yes, this.

I've spent many a night sleeping in airports. A night on a bench in Changi Airport seemed much safer than wandering around Singapore looking for a hostel at 9pm at age 20. Even having just watched Bangkok Hilton in Australia!

I sent a postcard home to my parents once a fortnight or so.

booksunderthebed · 28/05/2024 14:30

its all in the past now but I once got stuck in an airport because I lost my passport. I got permission to return to the UK with another form of ID the following day but meanwhile I couldn't leave even to an airport hotel becasue no passport. I was exhausted and paid to go into the premium lounge where they had wonderful reclining seats in little cubicles. I slept really well. It wasn't cheap but much cheaper than a hotel. And there were showers, food, etc.

Trainsplanesautomobiles · 28/05/2024 14:31

TheCompactPussycat · 28/05/2024 14:23

Yes, this.

I've spent many a night sleeping in airports. A night on a bench in Changi Airport seemed much safer than wandering around Singapore looking for a hostel at 9pm at age 20. Even having just watched Bangkok Hilton in Australia!

I sent a postcard home to my parents once a fortnight or so.

Edited

Stronger together. It's a sign of weakness & more concerning to be afraid to ask for help. Nobody is an Island.

AllyCart · 28/05/2024 14:39

TheCompactPussycat · 28/05/2024 14:23

Yes, this.

I've spent many a night sleeping in airports. A night on a bench in Changi Airport seemed much safer than wandering around Singapore looking for a hostel at 9pm at age 20. Even having just watched Bangkok Hilton in Australia!

I sent a postcard home to my parents once a fortnight or so.

Edited

To be fair though, I think if you were going to pick somewhere to get stranded in a city or airport, Singapore would be high on the list of best places to do it. Other than around Orchard Rd, perhaps.

Slightly off-topic but there are some really nice lounges in Changi airport if you have access to them - perhaps unlikely as a young person going off travelling, admittedly!

CaptainMyCaptain · 28/05/2024 14:43

DaughterStranded · 27/05/2024 21:43

Not an AIBU, but posting for traffic as really worried.
20 year old DD has arrived at JFK airport to find connecting flight to South Carolina cancelled due to signalling issues. The next connecting flight will go 7am tomorrow morning. There are no earlier flights to any nearby airports available.
DD has decided to spend the night at JFK airport. I am worried she will fall asleep and get robbed of her phone/money. Anyone else had this situation to deal with? Any advice or tips anyone?

I doubt if she'll get any sleep. I had to do the same at a different air port and there were announcements and noise throughout the night.

TheCompactPussycat · 28/05/2024 14:55

Trainsplanesautomobiles · 28/05/2024 14:31

Stronger together. It's a sign of weakness & more concerning to be afraid to ask for help. Nobody is an Island.

It isn't about not asking for help though. It's about assessing your own situation and putting yourself in the best place to get help if you need it.

Trainsplanesautomobiles · 28/05/2024 14:58

TheCompactPussycat · 28/05/2024 14:55

It isn't about not asking for help though. It's about assessing your own situation and putting yourself in the best place to get help if you need it.

Exactly 👍

AliceOlive · 28/05/2024 15:02

LlynTegid · 28/05/2024 14:05

Glad to read you found a way to get something.

Lesson learnt about choosing cowboy airlines. Have the plan B ready for any such trips in future.

JetBlue isn’t really all that cowboy. Huge carrier out of JFK. And anyway, there is no lesson because no US carrier will usually pay for delays caused by weather or anything else out of their hands. They’d go broke.

Bluedabadeeba · 28/05/2024 15:07

Ohhhh the carefree days of sleeping in an airport undeterred! I've done it countless times.

You use your bag as a pillow (and thereby blocking anyone pick pocketing you), and put your arm through the strap. It's actually probably one of the safest public places you can sleep - security guards and police just a stone's throw away. And often the big ones always have flights all through the night, so it's not like it's desolate!

I'm sure my Mum was thinking the same thing though, not that it ever crossed my mind at the time.

AliceOlive · 28/05/2024 15:19

flyinghen · 28/05/2024 13:35

Ah right, I was flying with American Airlines. That's rubbish OP. I've just had a look through and seen people saying you've got a hotel for her? What a great mum!

American Airlines will not usually compensate for events beyond their control, either.

https://www.aa.com/i18n/customer-service/support/conditions-of-carriage.jsp

Do airlines really pay for accommodations due to weather problems in Europe?