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Not to have given up my seat on plane

537 replies

Rainbowgoldover · 26/05/2024 07:14

Just wondering ....

I flew home last night from holiday with a friend.

BA flights , flight out was dreadful, cramped seats , allocated at check in so we had last row next to the toilets ...

On the way back we learnt our lesson so paid to book seats, I booked an aisle seat, friend booked a window seat, flight about 70 per cent full.

The person in the middle seat , asked me if I would move so she could have the aisle seat.

I refused and said no I booked aisle and don't want to sit in middle seat. She said but I want to be near my family in the row opposite. I still politely refued to move.

Cue lots of aggro, she finally got the flight attendants to move her accusing me and my friend of talking over her , we absolutely were not, both had headphones on watching netflix.

If you really want to sit somewhere why can't you pay 23.99 and pre reserve a seat, don't make others feel bad for not giving up theirs ?

OP posts:
BeaRF75 · 26/05/2024 08:58

I never fly without booking my seat - and paying for it - so of course I wouldn't move. If a passenger is stupid enough not to book their seat, then they go where they are al,located. It's blindingly obvious.

Keepthosenamesgoing · 26/05/2024 08:59

MumChp · 26/05/2024 07:34

Happy to. You pay £ x what I paid for sitting here and 100% on top to me for changing my seat to one I didn't want..

No? Fine.
Works everytime.

Actually that's a smart idea... just say I paid £xx for this seat and I'm happy to move if you refund me ! Cash only !

sonjadog · 26/05/2024 09:01

I would never swap an aisle seat for a middle seat. I would have thought everyone would realise what a bad swap that this! I only swap like for like.

TheTartfulLodger · 26/05/2024 09:04

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/05/2024 08:54

Because one of them wanted the window, one wanted the aisle. It's very simple.

It's not simple though. As multiple people have pointed out, it's actually quite an unusual thing for friends who want to sit together to do.

SpringerFall · 26/05/2024 09:05

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 26/05/2024 07:20

I'd have probably swapped because I don't see the harm in doing so.

You booked your seat, so didn't have to swap, but this is an example of how having to pay for something additionally (guaranteed seats) drives unhelpful interactions.

Edited

No people pay for what they want, it's simple

They have cheap flights for a reason if people want it all included, the price would be higher so it's no different but regardless if you want specific seats book them it is not rocket science

VeryGoodVeryNiceChickenNugget · 26/05/2024 09:12

Yanbu. I'll never swap seats if I've paid to choose mine. And if I haven't, and someone wants to swap and their seat is worse than mine, they can jog on too.

msbevvy · 26/05/2024 09:14

Bigearringsbigsmile · 26/05/2024 07:28

You and your friend booked an aisle and a window because you know it stops people booking the middle seat and you hoped for the free seat in between.

She was not unreasonable to ask and you were not unreasonable to say no but don't pretend that your booking wasn't deliberately awkward!

Yes, it is a well known strategy to try and get more space to yourselves hoping that someone doesn't book the middle seat or are intimidated into moving because they don't want to be talked over.

This woman might well have been happy to be in the middle seat but probably wasn't expecting to be stuck between two people that know each other. That is a really awkward situation to put someone in.

In this case I would have hoped that either you or your friend would have offered to move without even being asked. You paid extra to book a seat, I know but you still would have had the advantage of being seated together rather than in the middle of a couple of strangers.

Sillystrumpet · 26/05/2024 09:15

msbevvy · 26/05/2024 09:14

Yes, it is a well known strategy to try and get more space to yourselves hoping that someone doesn't book the middle seat or are intimidated into moving because they don't want to be talked over.

This woman might well have been happy to be in the middle seat but probably wasn't expecting to be stuck between two people that know each other. That is a really awkward situation to put someone in.

In this case I would have hoped that either you or your friend would have offered to move without even being asked. You paid extra to book a seat, I know but you still would have had the advantage of being seated together rather than in the middle of a couple of strangers.

Tough, she could have paid to avoid that, it is always a risk.

icelolly12 · 26/05/2024 09:18

I had a similar scenario. I was flying back from italy and feeling really ill with a bad uti infection that I ended up needing to take antibiotics for. I felt so weak and was desperate to get back home and really needed to be near the bathroom in an aisle seat. I'd booked for this (as could anyone). It took all my strength putting my luggage up above me.

As I was settled, a snooty woman seated by the window asks me to swap with her (adult) Daughter who was seated in a different part of the plane. I said no (probably in quite a firm tone) without giving an explanation.

Anyway, she ended up getting the middle aisle guy to swap which was a right palaver as there wasn't room for his luggage in the new seat. and it was a struggle for him moving as people were coming in the opposite direction to get to their seats making me glad I didn't out of politeness agree. Then she kept making sarky comments about the 'nice lovely polite guy' implying I'm a rude bitch. 🙄

Sorry but if you want a specific seat, book it/pay for it/queue early. Hate entitled people.

mondaytosunday · 26/05/2024 09:34

@Inkyblue123 I would have said the at I'd swap for the window seat so they could sit next to each other - see how well that would have gone down!
I'm flying out on easyJet and have booked a window seat for myself. My kids (19 and 20) are flying out afterwards and I've booked the aisle seats on either side of the aisle, so no one has to sit in the middle yet they are still close to each other. This seems a fair thing to do - the flight is likely to be full and inevitably someone would be between them if I'd done as OP did. On the way back we are three together.

NonPlayerCharacter · 26/05/2024 09:41

TheTartfulLodger · 26/05/2024 09:04

It's not simple though. As multiple people have pointed out, it's actually quite an unusual thing for friends who want to sit together to do.

It isn't unusual at all. Lots of people don't like the middle seat. And even if it were...so what? That's the point of reserving specific seats; so that if it's important to you to sit somewhere in particular, you can pay to do that.

Nobody is obliged to reserve their seat depending on what someone who hasn't reserved one might prefer!

Rocknrollstar · 26/05/2024 09:43

I travel on my own and have been asked by the crew if I would mind moving. I always book an aisle seat so my reply is ‘I don’t mind moving as long as it is to another aisle seat.’ I agree that if people want to sit together , they should book their seats. DD and I don’t mind if we don’t sit together on a short flight! We often book opposite aisle seats.

Octomingo · 26/05/2024 09:46

I ended up in a middle seat last year. In between 2 strangers but that was fine. What wasn't, was that both of them took up more space than the actual seat, so even though I tried to make myself tight and smaller, their arses and thighs spilled over the seats and touched mine. For 4 hours. That's a long time to simmer with rage and disgust. I have paid for a seat this year.

KimberleyClark · 26/05/2024 09:50

karottybagel · 26/05/2024 07:24

Whilst I agree in principle it is REALLY awkward being sat between two people who know each other. Even if you were watching netflix if she knew you were together it is going to get awkward for her. I think it's polite to book seats next to the person you are travelling with or at least in a different row so you aren't together.

Having said that no, yanbu

Apparently some couples do this, book the window seat and the aisle seat n the hope that no one will book the middle seat.. DH and I don’t, we’d rather sit together.

OP YANBU not to move.

Globetrote · 26/05/2024 09:51

Is this a modern phenomenon - this sense of entitlement to demand other passengers move if they don’t like their allocated seat? Pay for a seat and stop being so tight-fisted and arrogant.

I’ve travelled extensively all over the world since I was a baby and have never seen dramas over seats on planes, plus I thought the requirement was that you must occupy your booked seat in case of a crash/taking ill on the flight and needing to identify people?

Sillystrumpet · 26/05/2024 09:53

Globetrote · 26/05/2024 09:51

Is this a modern phenomenon - this sense of entitlement to demand other passengers move if they don’t like their allocated seat? Pay for a seat and stop being so tight-fisted and arrogant.

I’ve travelled extensively all over the world since I was a baby and have never seen dramas over seats on planes, plus I thought the requirement was that you must occupy your booked seat in case of a crash/taking ill on the flight and needing to identify people?

Surprised you’re well travelled and have never seen this, and don’t know you can move seats, never see people being moved, or moving of their own accord. I’d say nearly every other flight I take I see it.

BarbaraWoodlouse · 26/05/2024 09:54

PurBal · 26/05/2024 07:37

@Bushwhacked20 I’ve found BA significantly cheaper than EasyJet depending on the route. Unless travelling in business BA charge for seat allocation and luggage allowance.

They charge in business too unless you have status! Quite a lot too on a transatlantic flight that is already many £K.

MzHz · 26/05/2024 09:54

PotatoPudding · 26/05/2024 07:33

You and your friend deliberately booked aisle and window seats on the same row, which was a bit of a weird thing to do. Did you do it in the hope you’d have the whole row of three seats to yourselves?

I wouldn’t move from a seat I’d paid for, but I wouldn’t book seats the way you and your friend did either.

The flight was 70% full, Little Miss Middle-Seat could have moved to another seat that was empty

if you’re paying for seats, you can sit where you want to. Most of us DO use the time to watch a movie/read etc, it’s not often people chat

drusth · 26/05/2024 09:56

Inkyblue123 · 26/05/2024 07:39

I was flying to Italy and I had booked the window seat . An elderly couple sat next me and the lady asked if we could swap as she had a bad shoulder. I obliged and sat in the middle. I spent the next 2 hours with them bickering across me and even dropping food all over me, it was a nightmare. No good deed goes unpunished.

That’s horrible. I guess it would have been better to swap as long as you got the aisle.

midgetastic · 26/05/2024 09:57

If you have to pay £20 to book a sone if I seat I'd book the one I wanted and if I wanted aisle for leg room and friend wanted window so be it

Did you ask her for your £20 back if you were to move ?

pootlin · 26/05/2024 09:59

InTheRainOnATrain · 26/05/2024 07:40

If you’re travelling in a pair and don’t want the middle then I would book aisle seats opposite each other. It’s really weird, and super awkward to book the aisle and window and expect some poor stranger to sit between you.

The friend wanted a window and paid for a window. It’s not her job to be considerate to randoms, especially as OP has said her and friend were engrossed in Netflix and didn’t talk over the middle.

I bet you wouldn’t have a problem with men booking and paying for the seats they want.

Bumblebeestiltskin · 26/05/2024 10:00

KatRee · 26/05/2024 07:38

Last flight I was on- me in the window seat with 15 month old in lap, partner next to me. A woman on the end in the aisle seat and her husband in the aisle seat opposite, but two empty seats next to him as the flight wasn't full. Of course we wished the woman would move over to sit with her husband and leave us an empty seat for our family of 3. But was clear she wasn't going to and it was completely her right. Personally I really like having a window seat and will book one when there is the option.Some people like having aisle seats, they they can book whatever seats they like and so can you and your friend. It's fine to ask someone if the would mind swapping, totally unreasonable to act so entitled when they want to keep the seat they paid for.

I once flew with my sister and my 15 month old on my lap. My daughter was perfectly chilled, but the woman sat on the aisle seat kept looking at her, horrified, and asked to be moved. We got the 3 seats to ourselves, it was great!

OhshutupBarbara · 26/05/2024 10:01

Bringbackthebeaver · 26/05/2024 07:33

This. It was an inconsiderate booking.

YANBU not to move but booking an aisle and window seat when you're together is just odd.

What a load of bollocks. OP and friend can sit in any seat they choose if they are paying. I seriously doubt it was a strategic booking to get the row to themselves and even if it was they paid so tough shit to anybody else not prepared to do the same.

rosaleetree · 26/05/2024 10:01

YANBU. It's not your problem that she didnt want to pay out to book a seat and you had the thought to do so. Tough shit on her- she should have booked it herself if it was so important to her.

I would also have maybe swapped but only if she paid me the extra I paid to literally sit in that specific seat. If she doesnt want to pay then she's a cheeky fucker as that means you are losing your money for not getting what you paid for!

Bumblebeestiltskin · 26/05/2024 10:02

InTheRainOnATrain · 26/05/2024 07:40

If you’re travelling in a pair and don’t want the middle then I would book aisle seats opposite each other. It’s really weird, and super awkward to book the aisle and window and expect some poor stranger to sit between you.

But what if one wants window and one wants aisle? I don't think OP and friend did anything wrong.

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