Neighbours pissed off and I am sure it is racist, AIBU to refuse to sign their petition?

[PyongyangKipperbang]

New neighbours moved in to a rented house over the road from about 10 weeks ago. They have had three get togethers. One was obviously a housewarming, no loud music, no particularly loud "talking" etc, just mates over for a few beers, I didnt even notice until I went out to go to the shop and saw more than usual people there, all done and dusted (or inside) by 9pm. Following weekend the weather was lovely so they had a BBQ and invited a few friends, again very low key.

Today they had a biggish event with a hog roast, marquee etc, it was loud this afternoon but by about half 8 there was nothing. Went out about 10 to get something out of the car and there were no lights on outside, no noise that would indicate and loud house party, nothing. I only looked because I was expecting the party to still be going and it wasnt.

Just (about half an hour ago) had an invitation to petition the council to get them removed due to noise nuisance, I declined. The people who;s party it was are all gone and quiet, house is in darkness I have just looked!

They are eastern european as evidenced by the music and given some of the comments on the village FB group, I suspect that this is the biggest issue. Talk about "them" and "Their type". Also some saying it has been every weekend, it really hasnt!

I have already had some shit about it, although the one saying "You obviously havent lived here very long" was fun, when I said I have lived here 25 years!

Sure, but it’s highly likely anyone behaving as these unfortunate folks did would also get the same treatment, you see it on here all the time, people totally intolerant of their neighbours. Kids playing , get togethers, bbq’s. Even their shed is 3 inches from my boundary. You name it, if they can see or hear it they are unfuriated and really want to report them, and people on here encourage it.

I can see both sides of this to be honest. Great that these events didn't go on until late but 3 events in 10 weeks is quite a lot if you're living within a few doors of it. The rest of the neighbours shouldn't have a problem with it though as I'm guessing it doesn't really affect them.

I lived next door to someone during lockdown who had constant 'little' gatherings at home and it was draining to be honest. They also had one of those fire pits which was awful. I'm sure none of the other neighbours would have been disturbed by it but for us, living next door, it was a horrible time.

I’m not sure how getting pissed off about extra noise is racist.

that said, I wouldn’t sign the petition as I think it’s cowardly and bullying. The people with the issue need to go round and have a civil conversation re warnings if big loud parties in future etc.

also they aren’t your direct neighbours. Perhaps it’s a lot more of a nuisance to the directly next door people

I think 3 large parties in 10 weeks is a lot personally. My kids are revising for exams so it would have severely aggravated me to have this racket next door.

My neighbours have family/friends over most nice weekends hang about the garden bbqing etc etc it's not excessive to have people at your house 3 times In 2 and a half months .

On what grounds could they possibly do so? Seriously? Course they won't, absolutely ridiculous to even think they would entertain it for a second!

But arguing with neighbours on social media isn't going to solve anything. Actions speak louder than words, just don't sign the petition.

You have made the assumption that its racist.

Noise from a property can cause some people to feel upset and others not to be concerned at all.

Just because you haven't found the new neighbours to be a nuisance doesn't mean that others do.

You sound very superior. Perhaps they'll be a petition about you one day! 😂

I agree. I'm not autistic, but I hate loud noise. And before anyone makes the usual ridiculous MN comment about buying a detached house with no neighbours within earshot if you hate noise; when you're a lifelong Londoner with your family and life here, that's basically impossible even if you have many millions to spend (which most of us don't)

Yes but surely that's your issue not neighbours, enjoying their visitors and them leaving at a reasonable time?

@IsadoraQuagmire that's your issue to deal with, no one else needs to live a life they don't want around you.

You sound like you couldn't live reasonably amongst other people. Nothing OP has said makes her neighbours unreasonable.

I would expect you to be the sort of person to start an unnecessary petty petition.

Some "villages" are little towns lol but I too can imagine the "FB" chats

Why not live and let live

Trust me OP, council wont move anyone for that and that is a fact

I'm really sorry, I was actually trying to show some compassion for the people who were being treated badly. I've no idea why you are so angry at what I said. It wasn't bring unfair against landlords. I meant if the neighbours were convincing enough. I apologise if I upset you.

@Naddd

me too!

@PyongyangKipperbang

I would contact the LL & the council to let them know this is going on & how great your new neighbours have been. I don't think it's enough to just refuse to sign the petition. They need your support!

but that's your issue, not others, and it is unreasonable to expect everyone to cater for your unrealistic expectations of behaviour.

I'm not angry or upset, don't worry! Hope you aren't either.

The acceptable grounds for eviction are quite specific and detailed and have to be legally justified. This would not meet any criteria I can think of. And eviction takes quite some time. And cost. And loss of rent. It won't happen for such a pathetic and ridiculous reason.

Were I to receive a petition like this I would let my tenants know that their neighbours were dickheads, not to worry about things at my end and reply with the nicely worded diplomatic reply "go fuck yourself".

No worries. I genuinely thought I came across terrible or something. Appreciate the info. Thanks 😊

Easy to tell which of US is an anti social neighbour...

Not at all. No-one is compelled to disturb their neighbours.

@IsadoraQuagmire almost as easy to see as the ones who have to live next door to totally unreasonable people, who want everyone to conform to their crazy rules.

So for the past almost 6 months my parents (not me!) have had neighbours from Eastern Europe move in. Seemingly well off, and one is a DJ in his spare time live-streaming to a radio station abroad.

Both houses are big but not detached. From almost when they moved in they had regular loud parties with bass booming though the walls. Once it went on until 7am keeping everyone awake and my stepdad complained to them personally. Parents mentioned this to owners of the house who told the letting agents and then one of the Russians heard from the agents about this.

Music apparently now stopped but parents were unsure what to do. It’s a quiet residential street with mostly families similar to my street.

I wouldn’t sign a petition and it seemed of these neighbours are not doing much wrong just having fun and enjoyment in their own home. But noisy neighbours can be a pain. Whatever race and culture they’re from.

@PyongyangKipperbang - you wrote "According to the FB group some joyless twats have already reported them to their landlord and the council!
I have made my feelings clear."

What you could do is pop a note into the nice neighbour's letter box (the one that the petitions are about) saying that you don't have any objection to them living where they do, you haven't been aware of any noise issues and you haven't signed any petitions. You are aware that there are petitions to get them evicted and if they contact you if they are having issues, that you will speak to their landlord if it helps at all (can you do that on their behalf?).

I wouldn't sign the petition either OP, although I would hate the idea of loud music playing from someone's garden in the afternoon. Chatting, a bit of subtle music okay, loud music over bird song, not okay.
Although as long as it was only every so often I'm sure I could cope 🙂

Whatever comes of it, they will be very upset about the complaints made. If you want to show solidarity maybe slip a note in the letter box assuring them that it's just a minority. You don't have to sign your name but that small gesture might help them feel more welcomed.