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Neighbours pissed off and I am sure it is racist, AIBU to refuse to sign their petition?

98 replies

PyongyangKipperbang · 26/05/2024 01:59

New neighbours moved in to a rented house over the road from about 10 weeks ago. They have had three get togethers. One was obviously a housewarming, no loud music, no particularly loud "talking" etc, just mates over for a few beers, I didnt even notice until I went out to go to the shop and saw more than usual people there, all done and dusted (or inside) by 9pm. Following weekend the weather was lovely so they had a BBQ and invited a few friends, again very low key.

Today they had a biggish event with a hog roast, marquee etc, it was loud this afternoon but by about half 8 there was nothing. Went out about 10 to get something out of the car and there were no lights on outside, no noise that would indicate and loud house party, nothing. I only looked because I was expecting the party to still be going and it wasnt.

Just (about half an hour ago) had an invitation to petition the council to get them removed due to noise nuisance, I declined. The people who;s party it was are all gone and quiet, house is in darkness I have just looked!

They are eastern european as evidenced by the music and given some of the comments on the village FB group, I suspect that this is the biggest issue. Talk about "them" and "Their type". Also some saying it has been every weekend, it really hasnt!

I have already had some shit about it, although the one saying "You obviously havent lived here very long" was fun, when I said I have lived here 25 years!

OP posts:
Mrsjayy · 26/05/2024 09:37

AhBiscuits · 26/05/2024 06:35

I mean I wouldn't sign the petition either and think your neighbours need to wind their necks in. 3 parties in 10 weeks does seem like quite a lot though. I imagine if I was next door I would feel a bit irritated.

Really having people round every other weekend and leaving at a sensible hour would irritate you ?

Op we have had similar not in my street but there is Ukrainians who meet up at a particular house and there is rumblings of "get them out" it's totally unessecary and NIMBYisim, people have no shame.

Ella31 · 26/05/2024 10:41

My worry is that the landlord will evict them. Could you speak to them.

AhBiscuits · 26/05/2024 10:41

I just don't buy that it was as sedate as OP describes. No one is starting, and getting support for, a petition for a few sedate gatherings, only one of which actually disturbed anyone.

KreedKafer · 26/05/2024 11:01

Doesn’t sound like the new family have done anything wrong at all. Just normal socialising, during social hours. And yes, I wouldn’t be signing the poxy petition.

Mrsjayy · 26/05/2024 11:04

AhBiscuits · 26/05/2024 10:41

I just don't buy that it was as sedate as OP describes. No one is starting, and getting support for, a petition for a few sedate gatherings, only one of which actually disturbed anyone.

A petition to their LL though surely that isn't right and LL can't just chuck renters out because the NIMBY neighbours don't like them having friends over.

WoshPank · 26/05/2024 11:11

If you don't want to sign a petition then of course it isn't unreasonable to refuse.

thecatneuterer · 26/05/2024 11:15

Ella31 · 26/05/2024 10:41

My worry is that the landlord will evict them. Could you speak to them.

That's not going to happen! Have you any idea how difficult and expensive and long winded it is to evict people? Even though Section 21 still hasn't been removed it's still a hell of an undertaking. No landlord in their right mind would consider it in this situation.

bananaramaterry · 26/05/2024 11:19

AhBiscuits · 26/05/2024 06:35

I mean I wouldn't sign the petition either and think your neighbours need to wind their necks in. 3 parties in 10 weeks does seem like quite a lot though. I imagine if I was next door I would feel a bit irritated.

Why?

bananaramaterry · 26/05/2024 11:20

Naddd · 26/05/2024 09:24

I would write to the council and landlord and state the true facts. That you believe this to be a vendetta against these neighbours.
I'd also try n be friends with the neighbours.

Great idea

yaynottoolongtogonow · 26/05/2024 11:20

peopleonthebusgoupanddown · 26/05/2024 06:23

Racist middle England bullshit.

This is exactly the kind of thing I can imagine happening in our village fb group, and the kind of hill I'd die on.

Call it out for what it is and don't back down. As you've said here they're hardly a noise nuisance so hopefully that complaint will get nowhere.

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WoshPank · 26/05/2024 11:23

Yeah, it's just a waste of the time and effort of all concerned.

kalokagathos · 26/05/2024 11:25

Naddd · 26/05/2024 09:24

I would write to the council and landlord and state the true facts. That you believe this to be a vendetta against these neighbours.
I'd also try n be friends with the neighbours.

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AhBiscuits · 26/05/2024 11:27

bananaramaterry · 26/05/2024 11:19

Why?

I guess I'm coming at from the perspective of someone who has noisy neighbours. The other half of the semi I live in have constant visitors, I can always hear loud voices and crashing around, they frequently play guitar and sing. It's not ruining my life or anything, and I've only complained to them once when they woke us all up at 4am, but it is in general irritating.

It sounds like OP lives opposite and probably has no idea how loud the gatherings actually were. I'm sure my other neighbours the cul-de-sac aren't disturbed by the ones we're attached to.

2dogsandabudgie · 26/05/2024 11:30

If you don't want to sign the petition then don't, but why are you getting involved with silly arguments on a local Facebook group.

bananaramaterry · 26/05/2024 11:34

@AhBiscuits 4an is unreasonable, but I'll have as many guests to my home as I like!

Which is how your neighbours feel obviously.

bananaramaterry · 26/05/2024 11:35

2dogsandabudgie · 26/05/2024 11:30

If you don't want to sign the petition then don't, but why are you getting involved with silly arguments on a local Facebook group.

To stand up to casual racism and bullying?

You just stand by and let people do that? That's you, others will stand up against wrong

AhBiscuits · 26/05/2024 11:41

bananaramaterry · 26/05/2024 11:34

@AhBiscuits 4an is unreasonable, but I'll have as many guests to my home as I like!

Which is how your neighbours feel obviously.

Yes, they do. And that's fine, I've never objected. I'm just saying it's irritating because they are always pretty loud when they have people over. I'm sure we do things that irritate them too.

LlynTegid · 26/05/2024 11:48

Judging a particular ethnic group or religious group by different standards can be viewed as racist.

Perhaps contact the Council to let them know that you think this is the case, remind them of their duties under the Equality Act 2010. Facebook won't do anything unless there is a female nipple visible on the FB page concerned, don't waste your breath.

ACupOfTae · 26/05/2024 11:53

This makes me so glad I live in a neighbourhood where people live and let live.

I wouldn’t sign the petition.

Preg1989 · 26/05/2024 12:07

I’m always astounded by people who can’t bear hearing another household making general “noise” living their lives (e.g. kids playing, having people over, having the radio on outside - and the worst of all - a hot tub!!) but choose to live in a populated area! If you live in a suburban street, even in a detached house, you’ll hear noise!

To OP, YANBU to refuse and you seem to have a sensible approach to your new neighbours. Hopefully they continue to enjoy their new home whilst being respectful of the time / noise!

tomates · 26/05/2024 12:09

I don't believe this.

Maddy70 · 26/05/2024 12:11

Nouvellenovel · 26/05/2024 06:40

We used to have a party in our garden every year. It started about 4 over by 11. We put notes in our neighbours doors to alert them and we were never very noisy.
Every year the police would arrive because of one neighbour, we never found out who, that reported us.
The police always agreed that we were not causing a nuisance.

Why don’t you invite new neighbours plus older neighbours for a coffee one Saturday morning. It may just knock the xenophobia on the head.

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Springchickenonion · 26/05/2024 12:15

If you know the landlord/letting agent. I would let them know there is some weird vendetta going on and how it really is. I think I would let new neighbours know too what was happening so they don't get a shock!

Saschka · 26/05/2024 12:15

AhBiscuits · 26/05/2024 10:41

I just don't buy that it was as sedate as OP describes. No one is starting, and getting support for, a petition for a few sedate gatherings, only one of which actually disturbed anyone.

They will if the actual issue is that they are “foreigners”. OP doesn’t think this would be an issue if these people were white British, and that there have been racist comments on the petition.

PurpleWhiteGreen123 · 26/05/2024 12:16

I'd knock on their door and ask them over for a cup of tea. Be neighbourly and say they can rely on you I don't think 3 parties in 10 weeks is unreasonable. They sre entitled to enjoy their home just as much as anyone is.

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