Paula Vennels being questioned at the Post Office Inquiry, followed by others - thread 2

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A continuation of the discussion started by@Sausagenbaconhere:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5080262-to-enjoy-hearing-paula-vennels-being-taken-apart

Paula Vennells' 3 days of evidence ends today but there are more hearings coming up and we can discuss those too.

When the hearings are going on, live-streaming can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

All of the previous hearings can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/videos

😂Good grief

He's on to PV's 'I've earned my keep' comment re the prospectus. AP says it was up to RM and it's lawyers to decide what was in it.

AP now being questioned by counsel for Vennells.

She's like the court equivalent of a footballer rolling around on the ground holding his leg feigning an injury with all her 'go back' etc 😡

Who's the bald guy in the grey suit asking the questions, who does he represent?

(I'm watching slightly behind so it may have moved on from him, he's got HJA on his name card)

If I'm ever rich and in trouble this is the guy I want on my team!

https://www.mountfordchambers.com/profile/ed-henry-kc/

Also, as to his role at the Inquiry:

https://www.mountfordchambers.com/edward-henry-kc-to-cross-examine-paula-vennells-at-post-office-inquiry/

Next up:

https://www.doughtystreet.co.uk/barristers/angela-patrick

and then maybe counsel for AP for possible damage limitation.

Ms Patrick to ask questions about 3 issues:
The Royal Mail prospectus
Mark Davies, PR guy
The Zetter note.

Ahh, here's AP being shown that she was neck-deep in political management of language in the Royal Mail prospectus, contrary to her early denials on the point. AP tried deflecting but counsel shut that down.

That's a big blow to her credibility in terms of the evidence she's given.

So much for the above it all/can't help you with that lines.

Ms Patrick is being rather effective here on putting AP on the spot. In addition to memory failures, AP is doing a big too-weary-for-all-of-this-now act.

I've managed to catch up and only 20 mins behind.

Jo Hamilton is hete, loving her work as always. 😍

What a mess AP is.

She simultaneously wants to be fully responsible for the Post Office, but also not be responsible for any if it.

I'm not a psychologist, nor a psychiatrist, and maybe I am being unfair, but to me she seems to display narcissistic traits.
I know its thrown on MN all the time, but to me, she is incredibly self-centred, lacks empathy and has an excessive need for admiration - she wants to be admired for things she didn't actually do, just "what she would have done, had she known".

'Brain fog' 🙄

I'm also so in awe of Jo Hamilton. She has more integrity, decency and courage in her little finger than this woman has in her whole body.

Isn't she just! Ms Patrick, that is. "I'd like to stop you there, Miss Perkins!"

Her parting words are 'I think I'm suffering from brain fog'.

Strikes a blow for the sisterhood on the way out!

She simultaneously wants to be fully responsible for the Post Office, but also not be responsible for any if it.

A case of Shröedinger's Chair, innit.

😁100%

Please excuse my extraneous 'e'. I love an opportunity for an umlaut but autocarrot doesn't account for it.

Dont worry @SparksFlyUpward .
If this thread is ever used as evidence in a Statutory Public Inquiry, we can both give witness statements explaining the faulty autocorrect function

(Although we both may decide to conveniently forget the intentions and meaning behind our words)

Yes, I think I'll say I imagine I would have been using an umlaut because I'm a very good person but I can't remember why I put it there and I don't understand the words and they weren't my words and that's not my handwriting and knowing what I know now I clearly remember that a lawyer definitely advised it or a lawyer failed to definitely not advise it and I was overtaken by events and I'm feeling very tired now and I'd like to say I am a very good person.

I was wrong about the story the media would take from the past 2 days. I went for AP, Vennells, and Mark Davies guy looking into ways to nobble the Panorama investigation into the Post Office. But I just heard reporting that the government were thinking of sacking Vennells. Although that's the BBC's choice of angle, maybe for some reason they're not too keen on reporting how exposed their reporting is to the influence of shadowy networks of ex-Civil Servants, ex-SpAds, and hangers-on.

😂😂😂😂😂

That's a very powerful, leader takes full responsibility statement shows up the leadership of the Post Office for the arse covering weaklings they are.