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To reduce hours when labour win election

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Parttimeplay · 24/05/2024 01:40

I fall into the “60%” tax bracket. With the upcoming elections and knowing the government always hammer the middle ground….woudlnt it make more sense for me to cut my hours for a more relaxed life, eligibility for childcare, reduced tax?

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Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 10:44

wombat15 · 25/05/2024 10:44

I haven't tried it. Clearly you have if you know that it is easy.

It’s something I know about, yes, as it overlaps with my work.

wombat15 · 25/05/2024 10:46

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 10:43

What is your definition of long term?

By definition I meant the unemployed bit. If they have a job they are not unemployed.

wombat15 · 25/05/2024 10:47

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 10:44

It’s something I know about, yes, as it overlaps with my work.

I doubt that.

whistleblower99 · 25/05/2024 10:48

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WithACatLikeTread · 25/05/2024 10:51

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 10:18

You can see them on here every day of the week. It’s infuriating.

Really? It is usually the ones earning £100k plus moaning on here.

EasternStandard · 25/05/2024 10:52

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If people do as pp say and fuck off there won’t be much laughing

People will lose it more than they are on this thread

whistleblower99 · 25/05/2024 10:54

EasternStandard · 25/05/2024 10:52

If people do as pp say and fuck off there won’t be much laughing

People will lose it more than they are on this thread

They are also not realising that behind the populist policy. Starmer has backtracked and he won’t be high taxing and spending. We can’t afford to. Already running the credit card to the max each month to pay the welfare bill as not enough people paying in. The lack of logical thinking in the general population is mind blowing. Hence why they think anyone can walk into a STEM job. No - that required an ounce of intelligence.

wombat15 · 25/05/2024 10:55

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The ones earning over 100k and claiming to work incredibly hard seem to spend the most time on MN.

whistleblower99 · 25/05/2024 10:56

wombat15 · 25/05/2024 10:55

The ones earning over 100k and claiming to work incredibly hard seem to spend the most time on MN.

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Hmm… I don’t think it is. Same posters all day quoting themselves.

WithACatLikeTread · 25/05/2024 10:56

Plus many work so not taken, take, take.

frankentall · 25/05/2024 11:02

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Offensive bollocks.

frankentall · 25/05/2024 11:04

whistleblower99 · 25/05/2024 10:54

They are also not realising that behind the populist policy. Starmer has backtracked and he won’t be high taxing and spending. We can’t afford to. Already running the credit card to the max each month to pay the welfare bill as not enough people paying in. The lack of logical thinking in the general population is mind blowing. Hence why they think anyone can walk into a STEM job. No - that required an ounce of intelligence.

There isn't a "credit card" that's just stupid populist rhetoric of a type that has been popular ever since Thatcher's patronising dense sound bites.

Tetreb · 25/05/2024 11:13

Why does every thread on mumsnet at the moment descend into attacking the disabled? Is this the in fashion thing for morons? First it was the women ruining the country by taking jobs, then immigrants, now its the disabled being attacked. It doesn't matter how much you earn, if you hold these views you will be remembered by future generations of your family as a vile person.

wombat15 · 25/05/2024 11:16

Tetreb · 25/05/2024 11:13

Why does every thread on mumsnet at the moment descend into attacking the disabled? Is this the in fashion thing for morons? First it was the women ruining the country by taking jobs, then immigrants, now its the disabled being attacked. It doesn't matter how much you earn, if you hold these views you will be remembered by future generations of your family as a vile person.

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Yes, it is pathetic.

FallingBackIntoTheHedgeMaze · 25/05/2024 11:20

Parttimeplay · 25/05/2024 00:39

Of course I don’t want kids going to bed hungry and absolutely support a more equal society. But I also don’t believe in socialism

Under a Tory government, more children go to bed hungry. Tory policies increase child poverty. So if you vote Tory, that is what you're voting for.

I am not looking forward to paying more on my children's school fees, but I'm looking at forgoing holidays not needing food banks to nourish my kids. I'll vote Labour at my own personal expense because I cannot be the kind of person who would rather children go without coats and shoes and food than me pay a bit more tax out of my high earnings. I'm still very well rewarded - but maybe under a Labour government I'll have access to a functioning health service and clean water rather than my taxes paying dividends to millionaires while our infrastructure crumbles.

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 11:27

FallingBackIntoTheHedgeMaze · 25/05/2024 11:20

Under a Tory government, more children go to bed hungry. Tory policies increase child poverty. So if you vote Tory, that is what you're voting for.

I am not looking forward to paying more on my children's school fees, but I'm looking at forgoing holidays not needing food banks to nourish my kids. I'll vote Labour at my own personal expense because I cannot be the kind of person who would rather children go without coats and shoes and food than me pay a bit more tax out of my high earnings. I'm still very well rewarded - but maybe under a Labour government I'll have access to a functioning health service and clean water rather than my taxes paying dividends to millionaires while our infrastructure crumbles.

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I am confused why would any child go to bed hungry? We have so many food banks. Surely that is just parental neglect.

Ineffable23 · 25/05/2024 11:33

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 11:27

I am confused why would any child go to bed hungry? We have so many food banks. Surely that is just parental neglect.

Food banks are a symptom not a solution.

You often have to have a referral and you often can't have more than 2 referrals in a given period. They are not an answer to poverty.

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 11:34

Ineffable23 · 25/05/2024 11:33

Food banks are a symptom not a solution.

You often have to have a referral and you often can't have more than 2 referrals in a given period. They are not an answer to poverty.

JOBS are answers to poverty.

pinkzebra02 · 25/05/2024 11:36

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 11:34

JOBS are answers to poverty.

That's surprising given the majority of people in poverty are in work.

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 11:36

pinkzebra02 · 25/05/2024 11:36

That's surprising given the majority of people in poverty are in work.

Incredible isn’t it.

FallingBackIntoTheHedgeMaze · 25/05/2024 11:38

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 11:27

I am confused why would any child go to bed hungry? We have so many food banks. Surely that is just parental neglect.

We have so many food banks thanks to Tory austerity. It's shameful that they're needed - and disgraceful that anyone believes they plug the gaps sufficiently. Hungry children coming to crumbling schools, ill from black mould, inadequately dressed for the weather are a political choice and not a necessity or an inevitability. It would be nice to assuage any pangs of conscience by deciding it's personal choice and fecklessness but that's simply not true.

Sweden99 · 25/05/2024 12:11

I am a high earner.
I am either a high earner because I was helped into the world by the NHS, educated by the state education system and am paid lots of money in a system with an infrastructure paid by the state. Someone like me should be happy to pay tax.

Or, I could be a high earner from a posher background (I am not), in which case I had private education and private healthcare. In that case, I would have had a privileged life build around a state, that includes educating, caring for its population, helping to provide healthy people who gave me that affluence.

Either way, I should be paying tax.

The only thing I see to grumble about is that tax is progressive on earned income, whereas income from being rich (housing and stocks) is lightly taxed.

EarthlyNightshade · 25/05/2024 12:11

Polishedshoesalways · 25/05/2024 11:27

I am confused why would any child go to bed hungry? We have so many food banks. Surely that is just parental neglect.

Confused? Jesus!

LarkspurLane · 25/05/2024 12:24

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So mumsnet is full of pensioners and long term sick? Do you have any experience with being long term sick?

And you want them all doing OU courses to do what - pick up high earning jobs? Or just to get them off MN?

I thought at first you were just a Tory but now I'm thinking you must be a Tory policy maker.

whistleblower99 · 25/05/2024 12:33

LarkspurLane · 25/05/2024 12:24

So mumsnet is full of pensioners and long term sick? Do you have any experience with being long term sick?

And you want them all doing OU courses to do what - pick up high earning jobs? Or just to get them off MN?

I thought at first you were just a Tory but now I'm thinking you must be a Tory policy maker.

I’m not a Tory or a Tory policy maker. So stop troll hunting. I’ve never voted Tory. I won’t vote for Labour either. They can’t answer how they will get us out of the highest state dependency on record which we borrow to fund. They need to make work pay and fast.