to enjoy hearing Paula Vennels being taken apart?

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Is anyone else listening - radio 5 at the moment. Paula Vennels being slowly picked apart by an expert?

She couldn’t dig herself deeper even if she tried.

‘Im not sure’!

and I don’t recall again
I’m sorry!

liar liar pants on fire

There's a lot of "imagining" too.

"I imagine" this, "I imagine" that

Can’t recall which lawyers ffs

Because she would have told the board that there was substance to SPMs claims about Horizon.

Anyone else picturing Susan on a chair like a naughty child?!

Image is burned into my mind, the way Beer keeps referencing it. 🤣

Think he'll mention again?

More like a waif in Victorian workhouse, doing all the work!

I did like the maths around percentages.

also.

Susan dun it not me

pass it on

I hope so

In my head she’s sitting on her hands swinging her legs as the chairs far too big for her

I have an image of a woman in grey suit with a skirt, white shirt, with her hands clasped tightly in her lap, with her head down. Kinda like when cats loaf.

Don't ask me why I have this image but that's what comes to mind

Beer needs to debrief on this break, and detach from the chair image haha

He is must have heard you

Her entire evidence is just awful. I fully realise that she is shielding herself as much as possible by actually not saying much at all, but it's astonishing to watch this poor spectacle being played out.

I also can understand that there are certain points she may not actually remember fully due to the passage of time, but she will have been fully reminded of them in the various preparations she has needed to undertake in recent years.

I still can't get over the lawyer who claimed he didn't know how to download an attachment or actually print it. When faced with the evidence he had done both he still claimed he had no idea, a bright spark as him, how to do such a thing.

Sadly, this would all be very entertaining if it were just a company that had been mismanaged, accepting that is still not great for the staff etc. But this is so much more serious than that. It just beggars belief listening to the evidence.

I've also read the Computer Weekly article and Private Eye article today and they are both an interesting read.

Now it's the bit where Vennells hoped to make the scandal go away by paying off subpostmasters with, at most, £3-5K, or, better still, nothing.

Actually I think he is adopting a clever strategy

PV's constant refrain (when she can remember) is "I'm not a lawyer and cannot speak to legal issues" so he is reminding everyone that there was a lawyer present, but that PV chose to leave her outside while PV chose to present the legal paper herself and was confident to engage in a legal discussion without a lawyer present

As a PP mentions, it appears the senior folk thought a lot of the postmasters were on the take. No doubt judging them by their own standards.

Oh, its clear is it, that she meant they were trying to avoid paying compensation that wasn't due? Really.

No one wants to pay compensation to someone who isn't due it, thats implied by the concept of compensation.

So that line very clearly means they wanted to avoid paying compensation wherever possible and to limit compensation to a token small sum if they absolutely had to.

But in any case, it is all Susans fault.

She recalls something very clearly! Hallelujah 🙏

Hope

Vennells taken to a 2014 note where she said the aim of the scheme was to make a token payment and give an apology.

Yes she knew the facts

It's very interesting that she remembers issues when she is throwing others under the bus in great detail but when it is to do with her own statements and discussion she suddenly has vague or no memories ....

Strange that isn't it. She has some brass neck on her.

Vennells back to throwing Crichton under a bus while saying she was supporting her.