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To think this should be front page news?

99 replies

worrieddaughter97 · 17/05/2024 18:54

A town in this country is living in third world conditions, with poisoned tap water!

Yet these people take hundreds of thousands of pounds in bonuses every year!

https://news.sky.com/story/brixham-water-disease-outbreak-may-last-a-week-and-infected-could-be-ill-for-up-to-a-month-expert-warns-13136944

Brixham: Water firm apologises after parasite detected in reservoir - as cause of outbreak found

Residents in parts of Brixham, Boohay, Kingswear, Roseland and North West Paignton were told to boil their drinking water after 22 cases of cryptosporidiosis were confirmed in the Devon area.

https://news.sky.com/story/brixham-water-disease-outbreak-may-last-a-week-and-infected-could-be-ill-for-up-to-a-month-expert-warns-13136944

OP posts:
NewName24 · 17/05/2024 22:41

BerthaFlapjack · 17/05/2024 19:33

While it is inconvenient, residents of Brixham can boil their water using a plentiful supply of gas or electricity. Or they can collect bottles of clean water.

They are not trekking for many kilometres across barren land looking for firewood or water, which is likely to be infected with diseases such as malaria. The women do this, mostly in groups to reduce the risk of rape.

I don't think we can sensibly compare that with Brixham.

This.

You are being hyperbolic and also I'm not clear how you have missed this being all over the news, as I've heard and seen lots of articles about it even though I'm miles away and it isn't affecting me.

PickAChew · 17/05/2024 22:45

worrieddaughter97 · 17/05/2024 19:46

I'm sorry but it is third world. I don't care if it is outdated, or "incorrect".

The grips are in the third drawer down, on the right. Just behind the glass hammers.

GordonBlue · 17/05/2024 22:51

MiddleagedBeachbum · 17/05/2024 19:13

No where in the UK has clean water.
hundreds of people aren’t paying their water bills and getting away with it, simply by asking for proof of the waters cleanliness and to see results, which they can’t provide, this aren’t providing the service they should.
its disgraceful

How do you do this? I'm interested.

OP you're not wrong that this is disgraceful. It's another fundamental aspect of infrastructure that isn't working, along with transport and healthcare.

Nobody should have dirty water in the UK.

BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2024 23:02

@worrieddaughter97 you honestly don’t know why other stories might take precedence? Really? Oh dear.

Blackcats7 · 17/05/2024 23:03

I live in the Southern Water area so not Brixham and we have regular times with no water, brown water or white water. Then it smells strongly of chlorine when they flush the pipes after it has been cut off. Numerous locals have been ill at times. Whole thing has been massively minimised in the news when we had no water for almost three days last year. Many vulnerable “priority” customers who were supposed to have bottled water delivered did not receive it and non vulnerable got their deliveries in error.
Then we had the data breach and half a million customers personal information was hacked and sold to criminals.
Frequent sewage spills into local rivers and the sea.
Privatised water is a shit show coming home to roost as infrastructure which has not had proper investment is wearing out.
I stopped drinking tap water last year boiled or not. It is not safe.

LightSpeeds · 17/05/2024 23:05

Tel12 · 17/05/2024 22:30

CEO of Severn Water was being interviewed on the radio this morning. The interviewer asked if it was correct that she had been paid £13 million over the last 4 years. She replied something like that. I'm thinking that maybe the water companies need to spend less on salaries and more on infrastructure.

I heard this. Bloody disgusting.

Ocelotstripes · 17/05/2024 23:07

It hasn’t been poisoned but, yes I agree. It’s also a horrific bug I got it as a gut and healthy 30 odd yo and was ill fit weeks and weeks….it leaves you with terrible joint pain afterwards as well. We think I got it from a spa pool - it’s a water transmitted bug.

Whatdoyouexpecthonestly · 17/05/2024 23:09

worrieddaughter97 · 17/05/2024 19:46

I'm sorry but it is third world. I don't care if it is outdated, or "incorrect".

Stop showing your ignorance.

Developing nation is the term and has been for many years.

FoxEaredBat · 17/05/2024 23:19

Greetings from the majority world (formerly known as the third world...). I get that it is awful, and really really unexpected in a country like the UK, but to give you some perspective, we don't have running water. The pipes are there, but it hasn't functioned in our town for decades, we have to draw water from the ground at our house, and we're some of the lucky ones who can do that on our property. The water we get we have to boil to make safe, there is a Cholera outbreak where we live, and there are large areas with open sewers, and communal wells for washing/ cooking/ drinking water. Our situation won't be fixed anytime in the next several years, and we don't have anyone handing out bottles of water.

You made front page news over here - we really do get that it is not acceptable (anywhere, but especially in the UK where you'd think it would be better). You might want to actually consider those of us living in the majority world though, and think about how long we've been dealing with this and how much more severe it is before you claim third world status!

BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2024 23:24

Got any perspective now op?

Id not heard the term majority world @FoxEaredBat, excuse my ignorance I would have used the term “developing countries” but goodness your post has brought me up short.

SisyphusDad · 17/05/2024 23:25

YABU because it already is.

FlamingoFloss · 17/05/2024 23:28

MiddleagedBeachbum · 17/05/2024 19:13

No where in the UK has clean water.
hundreds of people aren’t paying their water bills and getting away with it, simply by asking for proof of the waters cleanliness and to see results, which they can’t provide, this aren’t providing the service they should.
its disgraceful

id like to see proof of this

FoxEaredBat · 17/05/2024 23:38

BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2024 23:24

Got any perspective now op?

Id not heard the term majority world @FoxEaredBat, excuse my ignorance I would have used the term “developing countries” but goodness your post has brought me up short.

I think honestly anything goes :) where we live, nobody would mind at all if the place was referred to as developing world, majority world or even third world (we're all too busy figuring out how to get clean water ;) !), but you're right in that developing is more polite than "third world", which always sounds a bit "lower class" to me. And developing is accurate, and not at all offensive.

I just prefer majority world as a term, because it is true that actually we are the majority that live in these conditions, and maybe using majority will prompt a better understanding of how many people live, outside of the privileged developed/ "first world".

*edit to add, it is just my personal preference though, not a universally acknowledged "better" term!

Ringpeace · 17/05/2024 23:44

MiddleagedBeachbum · 17/05/2024 19:13

No where in the UK has clean water.
hundreds of people aren’t paying their water bills and getting away with it, simply by asking for proof of the waters cleanliness and to see results, which they can’t provide, this aren’t providing the service they should.
its disgraceful

This is absolute cobblers.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 18/05/2024 00:00

It is not like living in a 3rd world country !

Residents can still bath and shower. They can use their water to water plants in the garden, put a sprinkler on the lawn and wash their cars ! They can use washing machines and dishwashers !

3rd world countries do not have that quantity of water.

The residents of a very small area can boil water to drink - one would usually boil water for tea/coffee etc anyway !

SWW are distributing free bottled water, either directly to vulnerable people at home or at a couple of sites i.e. Broadsands Beach car park

The latest figures are 46 people are ill, and maybe 100 have symptoms, and the population in Brixham is 16,000 approx !

DaniMontyRae · 18/05/2024 00:13

worrieddaughter97 · 17/05/2024 19:46

I'm sorry but it is third world. I don't care if it is outdated, or "incorrect".

You're not sorry, you're just ignorant.

ControlShiftDelete · 18/05/2024 00:14

@OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon did you receive a bonus from sww?

Whatdoyouexpecthonestly · 18/05/2024 00:18

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 18/05/2024 00:00

It is not like living in a 3rd world country !

Residents can still bath and shower. They can use their water to water plants in the garden, put a sprinkler on the lawn and wash their cars ! They can use washing machines and dishwashers !

3rd world countries do not have that quantity of water.

The residents of a very small area can boil water to drink - one would usually boil water for tea/coffee etc anyway !

SWW are distributing free bottled water, either directly to vulnerable people at home or at a couple of sites i.e. Broadsands Beach car park

The latest figures are 46 people are ill, and maybe 100 have symptoms, and the population in Brixham is 16,000 approx !

and yet again, the term is not 3rd world country .........

GordonBlue · 18/05/2024 01:49

Turns out that refusing payment is a thing - people are deducting the sewerage charge from their direct debit amount and filing complaints. Sounds interesting :

https://www.boycottwaterbills.com/

Dibbydoos · 18/05/2024 01:49

As an ex-env regulator, water was sorted years ago - no poo in the sea etc but since MT sold off our utilities, and over the last 10 years or so, Ofwat and the env agency have allowed water plcs to put up sob stories meaning they can poollute everywhere. Its utterly disgusting and unacceptable.

They sob but pay shareholders mega amounts. The Aussue owners of Thames have loaded it with debt taking so much money out of it, I understand its at risk of going under. Our biggest water Co at risk of going under.

Congratulations David Cameron, Boris Johnson, Liz Truss (though her time as pm was spent focussing on fg up the economy not water) and Rushi Sunak. The government that allowed poollution of our season and rivers.

Thevelvelletes · 18/05/2024 02:06

I maybe off the mark here the rise in pollution in our seas and rivers seems to have risen since Brexit is there any correlation for this and EU law being no longer applicable?.

Snowwhitedove · 18/05/2024 04:21

FoxEaredBat · 17/05/2024 23:38

I think honestly anything goes :) where we live, nobody would mind at all if the place was referred to as developing world, majority world or even third world (we're all too busy figuring out how to get clean water ;) !), but you're right in that developing is more polite than "third world", which always sounds a bit "lower class" to me. And developing is accurate, and not at all offensive.

I just prefer majority world as a term, because it is true that actually we are the majority that live in these conditions, and maybe using majority will prompt a better understanding of how many people live, outside of the privileged developed/ "first world".

*edit to add, it is just my personal preference though, not a universally acknowledged "better" term!

Edited

I like the term ‘developing world’ because it suggests that conditions in these countries are improving over time, rather than regressing as would seem to be happening in the UK from what I read on Mumsnet.

FoxEaredBat · 18/05/2024 06:29

Snowwhitedove · 18/05/2024 04:21

I like the term ‘developing world’ because it suggests that conditions in these countries are improving over time, rather than regressing as would seem to be happening in the UK from what I read on Mumsnet.

Very true! It is a hopeful term. In reality, things here are currently going backwards (roads deteriorating, water and electricity far less reliable than 20 years ago, schools and hospital facilities far worse off), but you're right in that developing is the direction we should be heading! And many majority world countries are indeed developing, thankfully. I think mine is just a personal experience thing. We are regressing :( solidarity with the UK (!).

wickerpram · 18/05/2024 06:42

Yuck, OP. How crass of you to weigh up a news story from our 'most precious country' against war that involves those little people who don't count as much because they live elsewhere.
I might be jumping to conclusions but I bet I could pretty accurately guess who you vote for and what newspaper your parents read when you grew up.

Vettrianofan · 18/05/2024 06:53

BitOutOfPractice · 17/05/2024 19:00

It is front page news.

yes it’s disgusting. Yes I agree the water industry in the uk has, to put it charitably, become unfit for purpose. But to compare it to people living without clean water every day is also rather unpalatable.

Not all water companies. Scottish Water are fab. They have water refill stations dotted all over.

Hopefully it gets resolved fast. Everyone deserves decent quality water.