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Should I report to 101, stranger and my baby

106 replies

Bramblecrumble22 · 15/05/2024 09:21

I feel a bit shaken after an interaction. After the school run, I was putting my baby in the car seat and someone tapped my shoulder. I turned with baby in my arms and she said 'baby' and touched him, and but her hand near his armipit. She was stood very close and it felt like when you pass a baby over. I said 'what are you doing.' quite aggressively and she said 'no, no, I like babies' and squeezed his cheek then walked off quickly. I mean she could be lonely and love babies and want to innocently interact with them. She didn't speak much English either. But I just felt really uncomfortable. She wasn't as old as the ladies that often coo over him in the shops, so maybe that why i felt threatened. So aibu she just wanted to see and smile at a baby, very innocent and a cultural misunderstanding, or ainbu report to police in case it builds up a bigger picture and she will go on to kidnap.

OP posts:
Pocketfullofdogtreats · 15/05/2024 15:32

SeriaMau · 15/05/2024 14:35

I understand that in London the Met have a dedicated group for dealing with unprovoked baby interest. You could try contacting them, they are called the Special Branch. Even if they can’t help, they are always happy to chat.

They'll go out on a limb to help, when they twig what's happened.

Caerulea · 15/05/2024 16:28

MadKittenWoman · 15/05/2024 13:41

This. I have Italian heritage; when DS was a baby, waiters would pick him up and carry him round. Young men would show an interest in him and ask me was I breastfeeding. People would offer to hold him on planes so that I could eat properly.

One of my best memories is when he was 5 months old and we were at Glastonbury ('locals' from the surrounding areas could pay to go for the day on the Sunday in those days). We were watching David Bowie from high up on a slope, and a couple of young men standing next to us asked to hold him and danced with him. I admit, I was a little worried at first but nothing untoward happened.

Some people are just genuinely happy to welcome the next generation.

Ha! You've just reminded me that a random man scooped up my middle son & put him on his shoulders at Le Mans, so he could see the start of the race better. DH & I were dealing with the other two. There was nothing weird about it, he checked with us first & we were all standing together. I thought it was absolutely adorable!

spanieleyes · 15/05/2024 17:08

When my two boys were 4 and 2, they were both white blonde-haired, blue eyed little mini-me's of each other. We lived in a country where they were uncommon to say the least! I can't remember the number of times they were patted on the head, cheeks squeezed, lollipops given, cooed over and, on occasion, swung around under the arms! I was worried initially but soon realised it was just a cultural thing, no harm was meant, they just loved children and especially ones who were unfamiliar looking to their own!

viques · 15/05/2024 17:10

Far more likely she was trying distract you to dip your purse out of your handbag than kidnap your baby.

RedRobyn2021 · 15/05/2024 17:21

FuckTheClubUp · 15/05/2024 09:25

Sounds like a normal day in South London for me. Obviously it’s not nice that a randomer tried to hold your baby but I don’t understand what you’d even say to the police to report her? And report her for what? Being fucking weird?

Sorry edited to add this bit.

or ainbu report to police in case it builds up a bigger picture and she will go on to kidnap.

This is just extreme. Build up a bigger picture? Come on pls

Edited

Jesus Christ, I'm glad my mum moved us out of London

No OP this is absolutely messed up and I would report it too

What is wrong with some of these people commenting?

Eggmoobean · 15/05/2024 17:24

Report this via 101. This is not ok. Sounds like she was sounding you out , to see if you would hand baby over. I don’t like this. Your feelings are accurate on this - it’s not ok.

Boomer55 · 15/05/2024 17:27

Very South London. Nothing worth reporting. 🤷‍♀️

slore · 15/05/2024 17:27

Wow. YABVVU. She's just an awkward foreigner trying to interact with a baby! No crime was committed.

If you reported it, I'd worry you'd be accused of wasting police time, or even racism.

FuckTheClubUp · 15/05/2024 17:31

Mostlyoblivious · 15/05/2024 14:16

Oh that first line made me roar

Living in South London is basically the real life version of The Hunger Games, especially SW London🫣

Sapphire387 · 15/05/2024 17:42

OP, do you have much experience of interacting with people from other cultures, specifically around your baby? If it felt like 'more' than that, then report it. From how you have written it, it doesn't come across as a police matter, but only you were there, not us.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 15/05/2024 18:24

She probably has SEN.
Non issue. Don't bother reporting to the police.

TicTac80 · 15/05/2024 18:44

OP, I don't know if this will help at all....

I'm from the ME originally, and it is very common there (and in a lot of Mediterranean , Asian and North African countries/cultures too). A person would say something lovely about a baby/child (or just see a baby/child), followed by "mashallah" (this means "God wills it") or "tabarakallah" ("Gods blessings"), often cheek or bottom slightly pinched. We (I'm Christian) might also cross ourselves and point first two fingers at the person. This sort of thing is also done if something good happens to someone - you comment on the good thing (e.g. "well done, you passed the test/bought the house/got engaged/the job you wanted etc"), and then say mashallah or tabarakallah. This will sound absolutely nuts to many, but it's to ward off the (curse of the) evil eye (we call this "aina bishta"....IIRC it's "al-ain" in Arabic). From where I'm from, this is a thing in both Christian and Muslim communities. I believe something similar is also in Jewish communities.

I may be wrong, but I wonder if this incident is the same thing, particularly as OP mentioned that the lady might not have been from UK. Having said all that, I understand that it could be very unsettling/weird if it is not something you've encountered before! I've lived here long enough to know that this definitely isn't a "thing" in the UK, so I wouldn't do it (unless I know the baby's family is from my part of the world) - I would instead say something lovely about the baby and then say "bless him/her".

It's like a superstition to prevent bad luck, bad fortune or injury.

heartsinvisiblefury · 15/05/2024 18:46

Stop wasting police time OP

heartsinvisiblefury · 15/05/2024 18:46

Sorry stop thinking of wasting police time that should have said

MadKittenWoman · 15/05/2024 18:47

viques · 15/05/2024 17:10

Far more likely she was trying distract you to dip your purse out of your handbag than kidnap your baby.

Really?!

viques · 15/05/2024 18:48

MadKittenWoman · 15/05/2024 18:47

Really?!

Yes. Pickpocketing is a much more common crime than kidnapping small babies.Smile

Noname1000 · 15/05/2024 19:07

CaptainMyCaptain · 15/05/2024 12:44

The notorious Eastern European looking men driving vans aka Evri drivers.

Can you put it on share, hun.

Frangipanyoul8r · 15/05/2024 19:17

This reminds me of the time I was breastfeeding my baby sat in my car and a stranger put their head right up to the open window and said “aw baby’s having their lunch”. It was very weird and spooked me but that’s London for you 🤷‍♀️😆

Cuwins · 15/05/2024 19:29

My first thought was could she have some sort of additional needs meaning she doesn't have the same personal space boundaries as the majority do?

SnoqualmieRiver · 15/05/2024 19:43

viques · 15/05/2024 17:10

Far more likely she was trying distract you to dip your purse out of your handbag than kidnap your baby.

This 100 %

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 16/05/2024 14:00

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 15/05/2024 09:35

There are a lot of people in the world, this can't be the first time you've seen someone behave slightly differently to how you would?

I understand you felt vulnerable, if you did report to the police you should make it clear it's a 'just for info' report rather than a crime report.

Do the police take "just for info" reports?

qwertyqwertyqwertyqwerty · 16/05/2024 18:50

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 16/05/2024 14:00

Do the police take "just for info" reports?

Edited

I just mean you can ring for advice. If you're genuinely concerned about someone's behaviour you can call them.

I don't think I'd report what happened in the op, personally.

CurlewKate · 16/05/2024 20:52

At least she wasn't.....gasp.....old!

Alizzle · 19/05/2024 00:21

Bramblecrumble22 · 15/05/2024 09:21

I feel a bit shaken after an interaction. After the school run, I was putting my baby in the car seat and someone tapped my shoulder. I turned with baby in my arms and she said 'baby' and touched him, and but her hand near his armipit. She was stood very close and it felt like when you pass a baby over. I said 'what are you doing.' quite aggressively and she said 'no, no, I like babies' and squeezed his cheek then walked off quickly. I mean she could be lonely and love babies and want to innocently interact with them. She didn't speak much English either. But I just felt really uncomfortable. She wasn't as old as the ladies that often coo over him in the shops, so maybe that why i felt threatened. So aibu she just wanted to see and smile at a baby, very innocent and a cultural misunderstanding, or ainbu report to police in case it builds up a bigger picture and she will go on to kidnap.

You are a mum, if someone makes you uncomfortable, sets off alarms listen. It's mummy radar. I would report. If nothing came of it no harm done.

saraclara · 19/05/2024 00:30

viques · 15/05/2024 17:10

Far more likely she was trying distract you to dip your purse out of your handbag than kidnap your baby.

Because she's foreign?

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