U.K. Eurovision entry! A lot of pearl clutching

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The outrage and comments I have seen about Olly Alexander’s performance is baffling to be honest. So much pearl clutching! Eurovision has always been completely camp and outrageous and yet suddenly he has been portrayed as some kind of disgrace and not representative of the UKs ‘values’ (what the fuck does that mean anyway?)

I like the song, I have seen him perform live at Glastonbury with years and years, he’s good live. Yes he’s openly gay - so what? Surely UK values should be based around tolerance and acceptance and not hysteria because his performance is considered risqué. Would it be considered the same if it was a load of half naked female dancers?

I am heterosexual but not offended by it - it’s just a performance - I hope he wins as he’s a nice guy!

So much pearl clutching!

Exactly. Now that was done well with humour and 20 years ago!

No you’re not :)

Just watched it on youtube. It's a mind-numbingly boring song and the set looks rank - made me want someone to come out and power wash it!

The dancers were good and the acrobatics were fun but overall the choreography was dull with too much thrusting & humping - not very creative!

Maybe I saw a different version from everyone else?

This is the version I watched:

Are we not allowed to link?

https://eurovision.tv/video/olly-alexander-dizzy-live-united-kingdom-first-semi-final-eurovision-2024.

Society is going backwards and you can thank the Trans for that and the likes of Rue Paul…

It honestly doesn't bother me. Camp makes me cringe but I believe everyone has a right to happiness and so what if Eurovision has morphed into a bit of a Pride extravaganza? It's not for me but they are having fun and not doing anyone any harm. I'll not watch it because it's not my thing but I would stand up and fight to protect it.

Your comment just about sums you up OP, ignorant , rude and self indulgent.

@LadyMary50 No we can thank homophobic people for that.

Mostly trash anyway. Sign of the times really.

There was a bloke on r4 the other days analysing what makes a good pop song. Waterloo has all the ingredients. I think he said the Dutch one does too, but I was only half listening. He did say the UK one doesn't. I think when the UK does eurovision it often does a kind of patronising 'let's do what the Europeans like' without avidly seeing what people do like.

Totally impartial viewer here- I'm not a pop ir dance fan, but I like the eurovision spectacle.

It has always been like that.

There was. So much so that Mel Giedroyc reproduced it last year.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K9K1gWfoS8c

I did see that performance. I watch Eurovision every year with DD. And yes I said at the time that I found it sleazy. So yes I am being consistent.

"The trans" 🙄
No, it's not going backwards because of people who are trans or drag queens.
It's going backwards because of attitudes of people who can't cope with seeing people different to themselves, and instead of looking at themselves why they get so triggered by them, blame it on everyone else for "ramming it down our throats" "everyone's gay/trans whatever nowadays" ...
Ru Paul and trans people aren't the problem.

Yes what you said 😁

I mean -come on - George Michael did it MUCH better almost 30 years ago (Jesus really !) with the video for Outside - so his routine is just a cheap copy.

It's an okay song - wont win - I'm not really bothered by the sex stuff - like Sam Smith it's all a bit 'look at me being sooooo outrageous' but it's hardly ground breaking.

It's not homophobic to find it a bit off - it's not to everyone's taste is all.

The TRA movement is quite problematic for gay people - as they are same SEX attracted but it's 'transphobic' to demonstrate that by not dating people of the opposite sex.

I like Spain's song! in a world where you can be young, younger, thin, body positive, gay, obviously gay, trans, non-binary, a cat, a vampire, it just makes a nice change to see a woman who is in her mid fifties. I love the video of all the older people in the club and the women are cheering and happy and the men are like tutt tutt! Go Spain.

It's definitely not always been " camp and OTT". Have a look for yourself, here are all the winners

Abba was two married couples. Then men were usually wearing suits typical of the fashion of the time. It wasn't camp at all! Assuming you mean camp in the gay sense. The two men in ABBA didn't present as camp anyway. And frilly shirts are not a new thing either. They were a fashion trend. Cliff Richard is religious and therefore unlikely to be in favour of being gay.

@Floortile Not just the winners perform.

Camp doesn't equal gay. One of the campest men I know isn't gay.

I never said Abba were gay. I said they were camp. Did you honestly think I was implying they were all gay?? 😆 Cliff Richard in his frilly shirt was also camp. Fashion can be camp. A lot of fashion in the 70s and 80s was incredibly camp.

From what I've heard (haven't watched it yet) it's nothing to do with him being gay

It's the actual content of the performance. But I'm sure compared to many music videos today it won't be much to worry about

I'll watch it later to see what I think

But back in the day, it was just singers standing there singing a song

Cliff Richard is religious and therefore unlikely to be in favour of being gay.

Shame he's gay then!