This seems like incorrect information

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Scottish school, my daughter is going through her sexual health education.

We are a very open family so all good and they sent the slides through of what they are talking about but there is one slide about periods which i think seems wrong.

It says

"It’s important to
remember that not all
girls have periods. Every
girl is different and
unique!"

How can that be right, i looked on the NHS website and it specifically says

"If you haven’t started your period by around 16 though, it’s a good idea to see your doctor to find out why it hasn’t happened yet. However, a delay in starting periods isn’t usually anything to worry about."

So in actual fact it isnt normal!

All the slides are done by RSHP.Scot.

Am i just reading this wrong or not understanding?

Bollocks to your final sentence, Greybeardy, much as I agree with the rest. It's the girls' business if one of their friends is male. Like it or not, that does put a different spin on many situations. Where the difference between the sexes matters at all, it applies whatever the gender identity.

It's incorrect information that is aiming to be inclusive and politically correct. I have no issue with including trans issues in sex Ed classes whatsoever, but not at the expense of the biological girls understanding the changes they'll see in their bodies

I agree with some PPs that unique definitely does mean male in this instance, but I was very surprised to read a current thread on here called "is 40 years enough" or something like that, and there were several women on there who had never had a single period.

Call me old fashioned but I definitely think it is my business to know whether my children's friends are male or female!

Totally agree with this.

No periods this end by 16. GP visit and tests, I was diagnosed as early menopause…at 16. Very uncommon (at that age; early menopause these days isn’t as uncommon).

I was slim / slender, hence mum and I waited in case puberty kicked in, it didn’t and it was good to get checked out.

There are girls who don't have periods for medical reasons.
Having a penis is not a medical reason 🙄

This!! The fucking world has lost it.

I'd always assumed the 'canny' Scots were a tad more 'smarty-pants than your average Englisher; but for the life of me I can not undertand in what direction they're letting the SNP Govt, and it's naysayers, take them.

Certainly not for Scottish Independence anymore, which I thought was their whole point for existence.

Some females cannot have periods (due to hormonal imbalances, sexual abuse, cancer etc) but it’s rare and if they’ve not started their periods by age 16 then they should see a GP.

The wording is quite irresponsible because although no one should feel ashamed for not having a period, it could be an indication of something wrong.

You had the menopause at 16??!!

Wow I have never heard of that.

I’m sorry you had to go through that at such a young age.

I have worked with women who have never had periods as a result of malnutrition.

I lost my periods for a year, did I suddenly stop being a woman?

Children can get ovarian or uterine cancer which can mean they never have periods, children can have pituitary problems and don't have periods. They may have been injured in a car accident and can't have periods.
Some girls have different reproductive organs so don't have periods. The NHS website is advising parents and teens who are EXPECTING periods when to seek advice if they haven't happened.
It is meant to be inclusive, and that is a good thing.

Yup. Very unusual. Consultant told me I was a “bit unique” but to “carry on having a normal life” 🤔 bit hard to do that after being told that information and that you couldn’t have your own children, especially at 16!

Yanbu OP. A statement like that needs qualification, if they are talking about trans girls then I think it would be helpful to say that explicitly. Lack of periods is a concern for biological females and should not be described simply as normal variation https://www.contemporarypediatrics.com/view/menstruation-sixth-vital-sign

I’d love to believe that it’s worded like that due to the various real FEMALE health issues which means some girls don’t have periods or due to the ages of the “girls” meaning some won’t have started so it’s trying to reassure them this is okay. But we all know it’s been done by Scottish govt and is therefore really about not excluding “unique” girls aka BOYS. My DC is doing same lessons currently and there is a whole week about trans so they can discuss then how some transgirls are girls who won’t have periods during those lessons rather than muddy the waters for female children with regards to what to expect from their puberty.

Amazing thanks, I tried to attach the full slide later on in the thread and it wouldn’t allow me

Because I was confused, I didn’t immediately assume they were meaning “trans boys” because the entire slide show doesn’t really lean towards that. I felt like the message was harmful but actually reading some great replies I think maybe it’s not as harmful as I immediately thought but perhaps it could be worded better.

Honestly my first thought was with eating conditions and the absence of periods or hormone imbalance,

But at least you can now talk about primary and secondary amenorrhoea

I played for a national sports team all through my teenage years and into adulthood. I didn’t really get any periods and had to make drastic changes to my training and body shape in order to get them going so I could conceive . It wasn’t unusual amongst my teammates not to have periods

Well there are some conditions that mean a girl might not have a period.

But it’s not ‘normal’

If you look up the slideshow, this doesn’t seem to be a trans thing at all. It’s all sex-based.

I think it just means what it says, that not all girls (females) have periods.

The OP seems to be misinterpreting this as saying “it is normal for girls not to have periods”.

Think of it the other way, if you're saying that no periods = trans then if someone is female and doesn't have periods for a medical reason you're not validating their experience and who knows what rumours and things they might feel because their medical condition is now caught up in a culture war. It's far more likey that a female from birth is going to not have periods for a medical reason than there are all these trans girls in school.

FGS The obtuseness of these posts…..

just write, I think the Scottish ed board is promoting transgender ideology and I don’t like it.

I think all girls have periods and if they don’t they are boys pretending to be girls.

I don’t like or agree with this. Can all of the other people who hate trans children please write a comment to agree with me.

instead of this really irritating pretend investigation into a side subject, that low and behold, reveals that you don’t agree with trans children, trans legislation or attempts at being inclusive.

Ah, so you thought it was about trans kids and that's why you made this post?

Of course you did. Why not just be upfront about it?