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To be pissed off that Boots wouldn't sell me Nytol?

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Appalonia · 08/05/2024 18:04

I went to Boots today to buy some Nytol. The shop assistant asked me when I had last taken some. I said, a few weeks ago. She refused to sell it to me and said that they could only sell it to someone every 6 months! I've never heard that before when I've bought it previously. When I asked why, she said it's because it's addictive. I am definitely not addicted to it, my sleep has got pretty bad since menopause, and Nytol is one thing that helps me fall asleep. I only use it occasionally.

Was she right to say this? I'm really confused...

OP posts:
bluetopazlove · 08/05/2024 19:58

bluetopazlove · 08/05/2024 19:39

Yes I remember the good old times when you used to be able to buy a bottle of paracetamol 100 pills . These bloody regulations are stupid , I remember not being sold Nytol twenty five years ago when my son was young and I was struggling to sleep . They're just going out of their way to be assholes .

By the way was' being sarcastic in case some people didn't get it , perhaps covering up a symptom is ignoring another illness .Continually . So maybe taking the same medication over and over again is doing you no good .

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 08/05/2024 20:00

Appalonia · 08/05/2024 18:52

Thanks for the replies. It was just so unexpected. I said to the shop assistant I'm struggling to sleep since the menopause and she said you should be on HRT. Yeah, like that's easy to get! I had a phone appointment with my Dr recently to try and get HRT, but when I said I had an underactive thyroid ( which I'm on Levothyroxine for ),she said that my symptoms were probably due to that. Feel like I'm going round in circles!

Have a look at this re thyroid issues and HRT
https://www.balance-menopause.com/menopause-library/thyroid-function-and-menopause/

Thyroid health and the menopause - balance menopause

An article which explores thyroid and menopause including advice for diagnosis and treatment options available.

https://www.balance-menopause.com/menopause-library/thyroid-function-and-menopause/

Londonscallingme · 08/05/2024 20:01

bluetopazlove · 08/05/2024 19:39

Yes I remember the good old times when you used to be able to buy a bottle of paracetamol 100 pills . These bloody regulations are stupid , I remember not being sold Nytol twenty five years ago when my son was young and I was struggling to sleep . They're just going out of their way to be assholes .

Yeah! The good old days when it was much easier for people to kill themselves using paracetemol so loads more people died! 👏

SpeedyDrama · 08/05/2024 20:05

I didn’t know this about Nytol either. When I worked in a pharmacy it was the upper range pain killers we were told to make absolutely sure when selling (practically had them under lock and key).

Having worked in that environment I do try and remember that they ask questions for good reason (and obviously on me if I choose to exclude any relevant information). Only once have I been very irritated by an assistant - my eldest was about to have his first vaccines and was told to get calpol in advance. Asked at the counter with baby in pram, the assistant asks ‘how old is baby?’ . I said ‘8 weeks, he’s having injections in the next couple of days’ - she firmly said no, it’s for 3 months plus. I said it was the given advice from the surgery/health visitor/on the sodding calpol bottle itself but she wouldn’t budge. Had to leave baby with dad and go to another pharmacy just in case they pulled the same nonsense! Never once been asked since when buying calpol though, and had two more kids.

Jins · 08/05/2024 20:06

I know I’ve said upthread that I have bought from the US and that I use phenergan nowadays but I’ve actually been seeing my GP about insomnia for about 3 years and I’m a week into a prescription for a new medication called daridorexant. It’s been wonderful. I’ve had 5 nights with 6-7 hours sleep where normally I’d get 3 if I was lucky.

I’ve had the sleep hygiene advice and the CBTi referral which was no help at all but this medication has been very helpful so far. It’s intended to be for longish term use but my GP is a bit nervous and will only give me a month so I’ll be back on my antihistamine and valerian rotation soon no doubt

bluetopazlove · 08/05/2024 20:08

It is actually unbelievable that people don't understand I was being sarcastic , is that how far we.ve fallen that people actually believe that 😦 ?

Youdontevengohere · 08/05/2024 20:08

fungipie · 08/05/2024 19:45

Bladder or urinary problems: Diphenhydramine can worsen symptoms of bladder problems. If you have a history of bladder problems, discuss with your doctor how this medication may affect your medical condition, how your medical condition may affect the dosing and effectiveness of this medication, and whether any special monitoring is needed.
Drowsiness/reduced alertness: Avoid driving or operating machinery until you have determined that you do not become drowsy during the day or experience impaired mental or physical abilities while taking this medication. Alcohol, sedatives, and pain medications can increase the side effects (e.g., drowsiness, inability to concentrate) of this medication. Do not undertake any activities that require alertness until you know how this medication affects you.
Glaucoma: This medication may cause the symptoms of glaucoma (increased pressure in the eye) to become worse. If you have glaucoma, discuss with your doctor how this medication may affect your medical condition, how your medical condition may affect the dosing and effectiveness of this medication, and whether any special monitoring is needed. Report any changes in vision to your doctor as soon as possible while you are taking this medication.
Heart disease: Although not common, diphenhydramine can cause changes to heart rhythm and blood pressure. If you have any heart conditions, ask your health care professional if any special monitoring is required.
Lung problems: This medication can make breathing problems worse. If you have lung problems such as asthma or chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), discuss with your doctor how this medication may affect your medical condition, how your medical condition may affect the dosing and effectiveness of this medication, and whether any special monitoring is needed.
Medical conditions: For some people, insomnia is caused by other medical conditions. If you have trouble sleeping for longer than 2 weeks, contact your doctor before taking this medication.
Thyroid disease: If you have thyroid disease, discuss with your doctor how this medication may affect your medical condition, how your medical condition may affect the dosing and effectiveness of this medication, and whether any special monitoring is needed.
Pregnancy: This medication should not be used during pregnancy unless the benefits outweigh the risks. If you become pregnant while taking this medication, contact your doctor immediately.
Breast-feeding: This medication may pass into breast milk. If you are a breast-feeding mother and are taking diphenhydramine, it may affect your baby. Talk to your doctor about whether you should continue breast-feeding.
Children: Diphenhydramine is not recommended for use as a sleep aid for children less than 12 years of age.
Seniors: Seniors may experience more side effects such as dizziness, sedation, and blood pressure effects from diphenhydramine. Talk to your doctor before taking this medication.

I know all those things. It’s still better than the crushing exhaustion, suicidal thoughts and hallucinations I get from sleeping 1-2 hours a night, every night, when unmedicated.
I have seen a GP many, many times in the 30 years (since I was 9) that I have suffered from insomnia. No underlying issue found. Diagnosis: insomnia.

DINGDONG23 · 08/05/2024 20:09

I got nytol from boots last week but wasn’t allowed the cough medicine as well apparently it was one or the other

fungipie · 08/05/2024 20:11

I get this. But pharmacists have to follow rules and make people aware of risks, the above, and addiction.

Patients/clients will be the first to turn against them and even sue.

I am totally addicted to Zopiclone- so I do understand.

Filltheglass · 08/05/2024 20:18

bluetopazlove · 08/05/2024 20:08

It is actually unbelievable that people don't understand I was being sarcastic , is that how far we.ve fallen that people actually believe that 😦 ?

Maybe because nothing in your post implied sarcasm 🤷‍♀️

bluetopazlove · 08/05/2024 20:24

You think touting that people be allowed to pkt of 100 paracetamol again sounds right ? Again it displays how unhinged society has become .

Kingoftheroad · 08/05/2024 20:36

Therageisreal · 08/05/2024 19:01

The rule on paracetamol (tylenol is a brand name of paracetamol) have saved 100s of lives in the UK.

I’d like to see the evidence

daisychain01 · 08/05/2024 20:50

Phenergan has side effects of memory loss / Impairment, light sensitivity (eyes) due to long term use.

I won't use it again due to these known side effects. People shouldn't get frustrated at Chemists doing their job. They limit OTC medicines for a reason.

OvalLemon · 08/05/2024 20:51

Ugh Boots are the worst. You can order from online chemist. I remember going in to get a prescription for anxiety medication (to take on a flight because I’m petrified of flying) and the woman literally gave me hell. She made it so difficult and I was so embarrassed, she literally said out loud what it was and then proceeded to get my doctor on loud speaker to ask
him to confirm!!! He was shocked. I complained and never saw her again in that same Boots.

crumblingschools · 08/05/2024 20:52

@Kingoftheroad someone posted some data

BashfulClam · 08/05/2024 20:56

bradpittsbathwater · 08/05/2024 19:20

I just lied when they asked if I was pregnant when I wanted low dose aspirin. That's why I'm taking it too, as advised by my consultant. I buy online now for a bit cheaper to save hassle! Amazon sells little tubes of hydrocortisone for cheap also.

She couldn’t really hide her pregnancy as she was small and looked like she was concealing a bowling ball. We needed to cream there and then as we were going away for a few nights.

penjil · 08/05/2024 20:57

Kingoftheroad · 08/05/2024 18:13

Nonsense - i do the same with paracetamol i bring it from Spain and my friend brings me big bottles of tylenol and melatonin from texas. Our regulations are nothing short of stupid

I do the same when I go to Egypt. I buy strong painkillers, amoxicillin, anything that I may need and will require a 2 week wait to have a phone appointment with my GP to get a prescription.

I bought some anti-altitude sickness tablets from a pharmacy at Bogota airport in Colombia last year. My doctors surgery said I needed an appointment and there was a 2 week wait....I didn't have that smooth of time before my trip.

Thank goodness in other countries you can just buy what you need from the pharmacy!

FofB · 08/05/2024 20:58

I was once refused folic acid! I am deficient and so I though it would be cheaper to buy the 90 tablets for a £1 (this was a while ago) instead of paying for the prescription. I was then just going to take the same daily dose in those tables.

Pharmacist asked why I was buying them, I explained and she refused, saying that 'they weren't for that purpose.' I explained that I had a prescription, I was just trying to save money as things were tight. She still refused. I just shrugged, said I would walk across the road to Boots and tell them I was trying to get pregnant.

Koulibiak · 08/05/2024 21:03

OP I would recommend you buy ZZQuil from a US online pharmacy, it’s the same molecule (diphenhydramine) as Nytol but a much more efficient release system, it works much faster. Nytol makes me drowsy the next day, ZZQuil doesn’t.

It is not habit forming so safe to take regularly. Much safer than benzos etc.

Insomnia is hell. 💐

KrisAkabusi · 08/05/2024 21:04

Kingoftheroad · 08/05/2024 20:36

I’d like to see the evidence

It's been posted twice already.

Appalonia · 08/05/2024 21:05

Koulibiak · 08/05/2024 21:03

OP I would recommend you buy ZZQuil from a US online pharmacy, it’s the same molecule (diphenhydramine) as Nytol but a much more efficient release system, it works much faster. Nytol makes me drowsy the next day, ZZQuil doesn’t.

It is not habit forming so safe to take regularly. Much safer than benzos etc.

Insomnia is hell. 💐

Thank you for that! Can you recommend a US pharmacy to buy that from please?

OP posts:
StMarieforme · 08/05/2024 21:09

It just amazes me that they would rather someone with chronic conditions be severely sleep deprived rather than risk them becoming addicted to sleeping pills.

It terrifies me that the sleep deprivation will be what gets my DD in the end.

And yes, we've tried everything. Apart from the old fashioned things that worked but they won't prescribe nowadays.

Farmwifefarmlife · 08/05/2024 21:10

bradpittsbathwater · 08/05/2024 18:11

It's such a pain in the arse. I was given the Spanish Inquisition buying low dose aspirin the other day.

And me! I’m pregnant with low PPA been advised to take 150mg a day, they wouldn’t let me buy two boxes!

Therageisreal · 08/05/2024 21:12

Kingoftheroad · 08/05/2024 20:36

I’d like to see the evidence

Well you could google for it or are you asking me to look for you?