To think applying perfume pre-plane is antisocial?

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My DM was always really sensitive to perfumes (lots of allergies), and she always said not to wear heavy perfume when you are in various places where people can't escape it (office meetings, carshares, planes, etc). It occurred to me, while a friend applied two squirts of every Britney Spears scent available in duty free, that coating yourself in perfume right before you are in a confined space is a bit antisocial. When I was pregnant I would have vomited profusely just walking through duty free, and I know some ND people who are sensitive.

Just wondering what other people think as I am a bit bored?

YABU - perfume before boarding is fine
YANBU - It is a bit anti-social.

A bit is OK, but over recent years it seems to be normal to apply loads so people absolutely fucking reek.

Well exactly @Teaalwayshelps We don't insist people don't cut their grass because some people have hayfever.

So women can’t wear make up, can’t shave any body hair and now they can’t wear perfume either.

Hmm, but maybe we would if they were cutting it in a very small enclosed space that people can't often avoid?

Nobody is saying people shouldn't wear perfume in general.
Just to be a bit considerate of allergies in places like planes and other enclosed spaces.

I do think the airlines should rethink the duty free perfume sales. All down to money of course! People's health is often secondary to that it seems

Sorry, don't get this. What's the problem with make-up and body hair on planes?

Or lack of body hair?

I’m fine with a light perfume but honestly some people truly reek. Fine if you are only around them for a few minutes but my sons key worker at nursery is COATED in Flowerbomb. He comes home smelling of it 🤮

For serious allergies, of course. We've all learnt to do without nuts on planes. But somthing that makes people feel a bit nauseous or gives headache, it's ridiculous

It depends on the perfume. Some fragrances are just really strong and aggressive. Perfume should not be noticeable to anyone more than 2 feet away from you. If you can be tracked around the building by your perfume it’s too much.

A colleague of mine has come into the office this morning reeking of body spray of some description. I'm not going to demand they stop but it stinks despite me opening my window as wide as possible.

It is, quite frankly, the most unattractive stench. It really gives me the ick - strong scents always do. There is an association in my mind with heavy strong scents and heavy perspiration that I cannot shake so if I come across someone wearing strong-smelling scent my automatic reaction is that drenched in scent = drenched in sweat. If you need to wear a strong artificial scent then it must be because you have a pungent natural scent. Probably a bit unfair but that's the way it is.

I think the bleed air from the engines should get rid of it shortly after takeoff?

I agree it's difficult as people can have bad reactions from perfumes. However, as long as duty free perfumes are available in testers, I'm not sure I would say the passengers partaking in it are being rude. Most people wouldn't think of it. It would need to be up to the airport/airline to issue reminders or set up policies around this if you expect passengers to not do it.

There are all sorts of things that makes air travel uncomfortable. The person next to you taking up half of your seat, BO, stale cigarettes, etc are all unpleasant. IMO airlines should move towards extending passenger space slightly (perhaps by restricting baggage allowance more) as most of these are issues with having to be so close to strangers.

"Wouldn’t bother me and as a PP said it would beat BO, booze or fags."

Imagine spraying yourself with something that comes slightly above booze, BO and fags 😂

It stinks. Keep your shitty perfumes off my Ryanair

Strong perfumes give me a migraine but so do plenty of things - don't expect them to be banned. I did get a migraine on a plane once and spent a good few hours vomiting into a bag next to a complete stranger (once I was no longer capable of making it to the toilets). So that's a risk you take dousing yourself in perfume before a flight.

Have to say I disagree.

If you were the one with nausea or headache/migrane you probably would too.

Reactions to strong scent are not nearly as rare as you seem to think either.

I love a strong smelling fragrance. If people have severe reactions to perfume then they should carry their own supply of oxygen/air to breathe in.

I've heard it all now, not liking the smell of perfume doesn't make you disabled.

I didn't say it did?

But I was replying to pp's point -
the world should not have to revolve around the odd one or two outlliers in a group

I mean, sometimes you do need to make allowances for others who are experiencing difficulty to a greater or lesser extent. Disability is one example of this.

Allergies, though not a disability, can be a real pain and sometimes quite debilitating. A bit of consideration for others goes a long way. If you can avoid making others feel ill by simply abstaining from wearing strong perfume for a few hours on a plane then why wouldn't you?

It's not a matter of not liking the smell of perfumes. Perfumes are a strong migraine trigger for many migraine sufferers. And migraine is becoming recognised as a disability due to the impact it can have on people's lives.
I don't have any expectation that people stop wearing perfumes in public places but I think the lack of sympathy from a few on this thread to people that do have perfume allergies or triggers is just nasty.

Aren't you just a peach.

Wouldn't a face mask work to keep the molecules out?

There's plenty of antisocial stuff that you could do on a plane but you just don't cos you're not an arsehole.

Wearing loads of perfume is the same mentality as turning up for a flight minging

The molecules that we smell are much smaller than viruses so you can still smell through a surgical or N95 mask. I've read that charcoal activated mask are supposed to block smells so that could be an option (if they do actually work..)

Fair enough. Children and babies screaming bring on a migraine in me. Should we ban them from flights if migraines become recognised as a disability?

@InWalksBarberalla

I would rather carry on smelling like a peach than give in to a minority who pass out at the very mention of the word, cologne.

Actually under the Equality Act 2010, migraine may be considered a disability, depending on the frequency, severity and impact of the attacks - so in a workplace you may be able to have reasonable provisions around migraine triggers -e.g. strong smells or even crying babies if that is a recognised migraine trigger. However none of that apply to planes - where I wouldn't expect any banning of perfumes or crying babies anytime soon.