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To think level crossings need to be banned

129 replies

Friendofmine8 · 05/05/2024 12:15

Or at least all monitored by CCtv at all times? I just feel they cause awful risk to both people on food and in cars.

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CadyEastman · 05/05/2024 14:54

The only times our local one had problems is if the occasional person jumps and tries to cross or if someone rams the gates.

How far do you legislate for idiocy?

Elebag · 05/05/2024 14:57

Schools did teach about them in the 80's. The train companies came into school to put the fear of God into us. We didn't even have a level crossing in our town.

CadyEastman · 05/05/2024 14:58

Not liking your list at all acat!

Firstly I like wine. I fear I would miss it too much.

Secondly, if I can't cross the road, how will I get to the shop to buy my wine?

And if there's no stairs, that's a huge portion of the house I can't access. I would have to sleep on the sofa and listen to DH snoring on the other sofa which I fell might be more dangerousfor his safety long term Grin

Am I ok boiling the kettle for a Brew?

JudgeJ · 05/05/2024 14:59

pocketaces · 05/05/2024 12:40

Don't see an issue. If someone dodges a barrier and gets hit by a train it's just natural selection in action

Unfortunately it could lead to a derailment with innocent people being killed. Maybe the monitoring should be to identify and prosecute the selfish idiots who think that nothing applies to 'Moi'.

welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:01

Elebag · 05/05/2024 14:57

Schools did teach about them in the 80's. The train companies came into school to put the fear of God into us. We didn't even have a level crossing in our town.

Exactly. And now they can't be bothered.

Boomer55 · 05/05/2024 15:02

They are there for a reason. Just abide by the signals. It’s not complicated.🙄

Iwasafool · 05/05/2024 15:05

RobBeckettsGiantTeeth · 05/05/2024 12:44

I dunno, I think if people are so stupid they need the government to tell them not to cross in front of a train that they're never going to win an argument with, then taking themselves out of the gene pool probably isn't a bad idea. As long as they don't take anyone else with them.

The trouble is they often do take someone else with them, not to mention the trauma of the poor train driver who is watching this in close up but unable to stop the train in time. Probably not pleasant for the police officers or paramedics either.

RobBeckettsGiantTeeth · 05/05/2024 15:06

welshycake · 05/05/2024 14:09

Yes. Of course. But I think its so important that schools need to be covering it too. For those who have shit parents

Yes, sadly I think that has a lot to do with it. There are, unfortunately, many parents focusing on teaching children only about their rights and nothing about their responsibilities.

Peonies12 · 05/05/2024 15:06

Maybe let’s ban the source of the risk - cars and drivers

RobBeckettsGiantTeeth · 05/05/2024 15:07

Iwasafool · 05/05/2024 15:05

The trouble is they often do take someone else with them, not to mention the trauma of the poor train driver who is watching this in close up but unable to stop the train in time. Probably not pleasant for the police officers or paramedics either.

Yes, that's very true, of course. I feel so dreadfully sorry for the drivers who have to deal with this - if they survive the incident. Some of them don't.

I've now gone down a rabbit hole of reading about these cases and was just reading about one incident where someone deliberately parked their car on a line in order to commit suicide. All well and good, but he also took out six people on the train, including the driver.

BuddingPeonies · 05/05/2024 15:09

But schools do still teach about railway safety.
Maybe it's on an area by area basis, but a vast number of kids at the local school will cross a railway line to get there (one level crossing, and 2 bridges nearby) and there is definitely an assembly once a year on railway safety.

RobBeckettsGiantTeeth · 05/05/2024 15:09

welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:01

Exactly. And now they can't be bothered.

Is any of that to do with privatisation? When I was at school in the 70s and 80s it was still British Rail.

SoupDragon · 05/05/2024 15:11

welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:01

Exactly. And now they can't be bothered.

I'm certain I've seen recent advertising about not fucking about on train tracks/with level crossings.

welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:14

Peonies12 · 05/05/2024 15:06

Maybe let’s ban the source of the risk - cars and drivers

What? The risk is the trains.

welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:14

RobBeckettsGiantTeeth · 05/05/2024 15:09

Is any of that to do with privatisation? When I was at school in the 70s and 80s it was still British Rail.

Ah maybe

welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:15

SoupDragon · 05/05/2024 15:11

I'm certain I've seen recent advertising about not fucking about on train tracks/with level crossings.

I'm on board with that as a slogan

GoodHeavens99 · 05/05/2024 15:15

Friendofmine8 · 05/05/2024 12:15

Or at least all monitored by CCtv at all times? I just feel they cause awful risk to both people on food and in cars.

They are monitored by CCTV.

notprincehamlet · 05/05/2024 15:16

Some people are pricks. They should be the ones who are banned!
This! Far too many motorists think they're wearing a tin onesie rather than controlling a dangerous lump of metal and glass.

Echobelly · 05/05/2024 15:17

No, I just think people need to use their sense and look like they would crossing or driving on a road

cryinglaughing · 05/05/2024 15:18

Has there been a surge in accidents at level crossings?
Statistically, are they that dangerous?

maggiecate · 05/05/2024 15:18

Network Rail would love to get rid of them and have closed or built alternative crossings in many places, but sometimes it just it just isn’t feasible https://www.networkrail.co.uk/communities/living-by-the-railway/level-crossing-closures/

welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:19

GoodHeavens99 · 05/05/2024 15:15

They are monitored by CCTV.

Yeah so they can watch when someone gets slammed into by a train..

C8H10N4O2 · 05/05/2024 15:20

RobBeckettsGiantTeeth · 05/05/2024 15:09

Is any of that to do with privatisation? When I was at school in the 70s and 80s it was still British Rail.

It was under British Rail when I was at school and we certainly never had visits around train safety or anything else train related.

The odd assembly on road safety or cycling proficiency but nothing to do with trains. I don't think it realistic to expect schools to pick up the slack for every inadequate parent - there are not the hours in the curriculum. The odd assembly, reinforcing safety messages through other community groups such as scouts, girls brigades etc is all fine but the basic expectation should be on parents to be parents.

Topofthemountain · 05/05/2024 15:21

BuddingPeonies · 05/05/2024 13:49

Just adding to the " it's sometimes the barriers fault".
My life would be infinitely better is the barriers would reliably reopen in windy conditions.
But id rather they failed "safe" than didn't close at all like the article linked to above.

The incident I linked to the barriers were replaced with the roll across ones as they were always failing in the wind.

RobBeckettsGiantTeeth · 05/05/2024 15:22

welshycake · 05/05/2024 15:14

What? The risk is the trains.

Not really. Technically the risk is the pedestrians or cars that get in the way of trains.

On the whole, trains tend to behave themselves quite well as long as things that shouldn't be in their direct path aren't.

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