To ask what you expect from Labour when/if they win the election?

[Welovecrumpets]

Just curious. I’ll be voting for them reluctantly but I’m not really sure what can or will be done about the state of the country. It seems we’re skint so they’ll just have to tinker around the edges.

Why shouldn’t he watch his daughter compete - sign of an involved parent isn’t it?

I haven’t read the whole thread just the first half of the first page and am lolling at the private school parents flapping because they are going to be taxed fairly, and fuck everything else. So, so, so selfish and typical Tory.

I am looking forward to a much fairer society where the rich don’t trample over the less well off with their sharp elbows to get what they want.

I am looking forward to a government that isn’t self serving and abides by the Nolan Principles. Let’s get some morality back and sweep away the corrupt.

Looool @ this massive stretch

His DC attended an event at a private school 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@twistyizzy
I think the responses you're getting is that for the vast majority of people they couldn't save up beforehand or find 15k a year surplus (to essential housing, good and pension costs). 75-100k on schooling is eye watering sums for the vast majority. Doesn't matter if you save up or pay as you go, or any combo in between. That's why your getting people laughing at you. It is out of touch too think that access to that level of resource puts you in the 'normal' bracket. It really doesn't, you're wealthy. The average UK salary is 35k. Even with two full time earners no family on 70k is happily spending 15k after tax and essential expenditure on education, unless they were given huge help with housing or are being subbed by inheritance/ gifts.
People who pay private fees are simple not average earners.

For the uneducated amongst us what is GDST?

Girls' Day School Trust - group of twenty something private schools

then he ought to allow those children currently in private schools to continue on the vat free basis on which they joined and only impose it on new joiners, having benefitted himself from an accommodation designed to ensure existing pupils are not prejudiced.

Girls Day Schools Trust. A chain of private schools.

I think they are probably such fans of Boris and not knowing how many daughters one has...

May I just take the time to observe how delightful it is to see some posters in a flap as they have realised that Labour will when the next GE and make the country a fairer nicer place to live.

Maybe I did. I want all those things too, as a Labour Party member.

His child was competing at an event for private school kids being held at a private school using the facilities of a private school.
But then if you can afford a 2 million pound house I don't think you need to worry about private school fees or VAT.
My point is that there is a massive amount of hypocrisy in the Labour Party. "Socking it to the elite" when most Labour MPs make up the elite.

Except I have never, and will never vote Tory.

That's just not true. Not all of Surrey is stockbroker stock and even in the really wealthy areas, there are all types of housing.

The facts don't stop people with an agenda from twisting them, unfortunately.

If anyone think Labour won't be next government they haven't been paying attention to any media or polling for at least 12 months if not longer and have no awareness of UK political history.

I'd be staggered if Labour aren't the next government - it's more the majority they have and our system really needs a decent opposition (doesn't have to be Tory just someone raising issues with Gov legislation - not we'd have done that sooner or better with no details).

I've also been listening to the little they've said so far - more out sourcing for NHS to private companies - which actually makes sense given waiting lists times but isn't what many on here have said - and they don't seem bothered by Uni going under in one interview with shadow cabinet member when asked about it - they seem weak on women's right those noise have been made recently - beyond that it's waiting and seeing.

I think they're inheriting a shit show - limited scope for big changes. I expect they'll get in blame Tory's - and they aren't wrong - and immediately seriously damped down expectations - I do hope they may get on better with EU.

Exactly and the poster still hasn't answered my question.

You didn't answer my question about whether he should have been moved from a school because it became private?

So what if he has (or hasn't) a £2million house? Can he only be bona fide Labour if he lives in a house of a certain modesty? He was successful before politics. He had humble beginnings (first in family to go to Uni) and did well for himself. Would you hold that against him? I think the fact that he took his Oxford Law degree to become a human rights barrister rather than chasing the City bucks says a lot about him anyway but that's another matter. You can be well off and still have left-wing values and politics and consider the big picture. Also, in my book, voting is about more than getting hung up on one or two policies which are not great for someone as an individual.

I agree with @twistyizzy. We went on our first real, big holiday after our children had graduated. We lived quite frugally while they were at (private) school - that was the choice we made. We don't regret it one bit.

@StarlingsForever agreed. It’s ok for Tories to be posh and out of touch with ordinary people. It’s alright for tories to be disdainful of working class people (unless you’re in the derided red wall and might vote for them). But god forbid a working class done good Labour supporter who lives in a nice house. Then it’s ‘champagne socialist, out of touch liberal elites’. If you’re a posh toff on the other hand, perfectly happy doffing your cap a5 them, no questions asked. It’s laughable.

@NefertitiV frugally 😂 if I stopped eating, sold my car and moved the family to a tent still couldn’t afford private education.

More of the same, they've said so. I suppose we'll see the disgusting Rwanda scheme put to bed, our human rights and environmental standards protected for a few more years. But essentially just a slowing down of our slide into neoliberalism.

I expect the party itself to follow the same path Starmer has put it on, to become less democratic, to increase large donations from wealthy individuals and to shrink in actual membership, until he's run out of lefty Jews to expel.

Who says they won't. I don't think anyone yet knows the detail and timeframe of the mooted policy (but make all kinds of conjecture about it anyway). If the policy is phased in over time, that is precisely what the situation could be.

I don't give a rats ass where he lives/went to school until he starts targeting the people who are trying to give their kids the same education he got. At that point it becomes relevant. He can afford a house in the catchment of a good state school, we can't so we chose private and now he wants to make that unaffordable.
His policy will reduce/get rid of the very bursaries that enabled him to attend private school so he is denying access to the very same kids as he was. That's what I have a problem with.
He is pulling the drawbridge up after him.

I thought Starmer said he has two sons recently?