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AIBU to be furious at the scorn Giles Coren shows towards grieving parents?

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AllergiesMum · 01/05/2024 17:24

Since she was diagnosed as a toddler, DD (12) ha suffered from serious food allergies. If she consumes even a tiny fragment of a peanut she will go into anaphylactic shock and must carry an epipen at all times. She is also allergic to other nuts, eggs, and orchard fruits. Every time she attends a birthday party, play date, school trip I have to brief the supervising parent and also when she was little I had to watch her vigilantly. It has been stressful and terrifying, especially now that she is getting older and more independent although she is extremely sensible and cautious. However, so many lives have been saved thanks to the tireless activism of other parents whose children have died tragically, and specifically because of Natasha’s Law (after the death of Natasha Ednan-Laperouse when her parents campaigned to change the law to demand increased transparency in the listing of ingredients for packaged food).

So it boils my blood to read in The Times today, Giles Coren’s column about how “baffled” he is that parents who’ve lost a child campaign against the “terrible 10,000 to 1 piece of bad luck that killed them.” As an allergies parent, unlike the contemptible Mr Coren, I have the utmost respect for grieving parents who lose a child to a preventable death and then try to save others from the same tragic fate.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/caitlyn-scott-lees-father-can-teach-us-all-how-to-handle-grief-jdhdspxbd

Caitlyn Scott-Lee’s father can teach us all how to handle grief

When I read about Jonathan Scott-Lee, the autistic father of an autistic daughter who killed herself at boarding school over a detention, saying, on the eve of the inquest into her death, “I’ve no

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/caitlyn-scott-lees-father-can-teach-us-all-how-to-handle-grief-jdhdspxbd

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Hyppogriff · 02/05/2024 21:25

SpudleyLass · 01/05/2024 17:30

He is the same idiot who made up the William and Rose affair lie on Twitter.

He is an all rounder of a prick.

Ummmmmmmmm this was true

Dustpantsandbush · 02/05/2024 21:30

Is this the one who was addicted to wanking as a young teen and used to fuck a hole in his parents sofa?

TodaysNameIsBoring · 02/05/2024 21:38

Aww, isnt it lovely when everyone on a thread agrees with each other.

LilySLE · 02/05/2024 23:25

afaloren · 01/05/2024 17:40

I love Victoria Coren-Mitchell and I am always morbidly curious about what their relationship must be like. He’s an odious toad.

You know they are siblings? Not in a relationship? Victoria (who I also love btw!) is married to David Mitchell (hence the name)

TruthorDie · 03/05/2024 01:28

PrincessFionaCharming · 01/05/2024 17:26

You should have read the thread on here the other day about Brianna Ghey’s mother and her campaign to restrict smart phone/social media access for children.

You’d have been disgusted. I certainly was.

As a mental health professional then l am very much convinced Brianna Ghey's mother has the right idea. Luckily l didn't see the thread you mentioned. Why were people so vitriolic?

TruthorDie · 03/05/2024 01:44

I had a LOT of allergies as a child, most of them l have grown out of but not a life threatening allergy to peanuts. So l am somewhat unimpressed by his stance. Even if l didn't have allergies then l am quite sure l would want to know what is in the food l am eating and what my children are eating. I can't read what he wrote luckily / unluckily as it is behind a paywall

CormorantStrikesBack · 03/05/2024 07:19

Dustpantsandbush · 02/05/2024 21:30

Is this the one who was addicted to wanking as a young teen and used to fuck a hole in his parents sofa?

I was just coming back to this thread to mention this after remembering it this morning. I mean it’s sick enough to do this but even weirder as an adult to write about doing this in a national paper. He’s a bit unhinged really.

CormorantStrikesBack · 03/05/2024 07:21

I fucked that thing like crazy for the whole of one long summer afternoon, until it was so full of splosh it could have given birth to a whole shopful of half-human seating solutions. And then all I had to do was turn it round so that the hole didn't face out into the room and nobody would ever know. Except — oh, fuck! — the back of the cushion was lined with canvas. It was a one-way cushion. I had no option but to lay it back the way I had found it and hope for the best.
That evening, when the family gathered in the telly room after supper to watch Dallas, I was naturally relieved when nobody sat back directly onto my special friend and got a tell-tale spaff-tattoo on the back of their shirt.

afaloren · 03/05/2024 08:04

LilySLE · 02/05/2024 23:25

You know they are siblings? Not in a relationship? Victoria (who I also love btw!) is married to David Mitchell (hence the name)

Yes I know, that’s what I’m saying. What is Victoria and Giles’ relationship like.

Ponoka7 · 03/05/2024 08:12

peakygold · 02/05/2024 19:43

He's got a point though. Why on earth would you buy takeaway food if the tiniest mistake in the ingredients means certain death? Baffling.

She died travelling on an aeroplane. Sadly that meant limited intervention. We should be able to trust the overpriced and massive profit making food that is available to buy in places like airports. That's what her parents have achieved for everyone.

SevenSeasOfRhye · 03/05/2024 08:19

Ponoka7 · 03/05/2024 08:12

She died travelling on an aeroplane. Sadly that meant limited intervention. We should be able to trust the overpriced and massive profit making food that is available to buy in places like airports. That's what her parents have achieved for everyone.

If I recall correctly, she had two epi-pens with her and a doctor who was on the plane also administered something in a desperate attempt to help, but sadly her allergic reaction was just too severe.

It was a loophole that had allowed the ingredients not to be listed.

userlotsanumbers · 03/05/2024 08:19

He's a troll, one who revels in being 'edgy'. Sooner he drops off the edge, the better, imo.
Why do The Times persist with him? Is it for clicks? Can they not get out of the contract?

AllergiesMum · 03/05/2024 09:56

SevenSeasOfRhye · 03/05/2024 08:19

If I recall correctly, she had two epi-pens with her and a doctor who was on the plane also administered something in a desperate attempt to help, but sadly her allergic reaction was just too severe.

It was a loophole that had allowed the ingredients not to be listed.

The sandwiches at Pret a Manger are delicious but many of them are prepared onsite, which does leave room for human error. And that is terrifying as an allergies parent. Natasha’s Law has done so much to make food manufacturers more safety compliant for allergies sufferers. I am really grateful to her parents. What better tribute is there to pay to your child than to use their tragic experience and name to save others from the same fate?

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SpudleyLass · 03/05/2024 10:40

Hyppogriff · 02/05/2024 21:25

Ummmmmmmmm this was true

No, it really isn't.

AllergiesMum · 03/05/2024 11:07

CormorantStrikesBack · 03/05/2024 07:21

I fucked that thing like crazy for the whole of one long summer afternoon, until it was so full of splosh it could have given birth to a whole shopful of half-human seating solutions. And then all I had to do was turn it round so that the hole didn't face out into the room and nobody would ever know. Except — oh, fuck! — the back of the cushion was lined with canvas. It was a one-way cushion. I had no option but to lay it back the way I had found it and hope for the best.
That evening, when the family gathered in the telly room after supper to watch Dallas, I was naturally relieved when nobody sat back directly onto my special friend and got a tell-tale spaff-tattoo on the back of their shirt.

Cripes! This is absolutely disgusting. A crime against humanity. He’s a pervert to boot!

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GoldEagle · 03/05/2024 11:16

He is a wretched, muck raking turd.

CHEESEY13 · 03/05/2024 11:33

Coren is a restaurant critic - full of opinionated waffle. I imagine it's what you do if a proper job is way beyond your capabilities.

bombastix · 03/05/2024 19:39

CHEESEY13 · 03/05/2024 11:33

Coren is a restaurant critic - full of opinionated waffle. I imagine it's what you do if a proper job is way beyond your capabilities.

He replaced the completely brilliant Jonathan Meades who was and is a great writer. It's not the job, it's the man. I have no idea what Meades thinks about his successor but the writing on that too is turgid and banal. Even if the restaurant is good, you are put off by terrible writing. Again Giles could be replaced and almost anyone else would represent a great improvement.

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