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People who work have anxiety too

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Fedupandgrump · 30/04/2024 13:44

Anyone else on the verge of a breakdown with work, kids, mortgage and cost of living?

I’ve read a lot of threads recently about people with mental health conditions worried about being forced into employment when they feel as though they would not be able to cope. Whilst I sympathise, it’s come at a time where I am completely overwhelmed, burnt out and wonder how the fuck I’m going to get through the week. I treat myself to a half hour sob in Sainsburys car park every couple of days and I wake up every morning with dread, fear and anxiety about what the day will hold. However, I go and work because I. Have. No. Choice. I have two kids and a mad dog that relies on me and my husband to keep our shit together and a roof over our heads. Every day I can feel my heart racing and I feel permanently like I’m in fight or flight mode and I wonder if this is going to lead to a premature heart attack in my 30’s.

I sometimes feel like people who don’t work due to poor mental health thinks those of us who do work, are suffering less than them. I know IAMBU but I can’t help the way I feel at the minute.

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OriginalUsername2 · 01/05/2024 22:23

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 01/05/2024 21:32

I’ve just done a bit of a search and apparently @threatmatrix works for the NHS, works in a school, works 4 days a week in a cafe, works in a ‘very high powered industry’ with her own staff, and works 6 days a week while running a house but has a cleaner. Oh, and has an astronomical chip on her shoulder about people who dont work, or don’t work full time.

😂

threatmatrix · 01/05/2024 22:23

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 01/05/2024 21:15

Do you think people with disabilities shouldn’t be able to wear make up or have painted nails?

Not when they are paying £35/40 every two weeks on nails, £150+ on lip filler, £200+ on filler and Botox. I’m never mentioned make up.

threatmatrix · 01/05/2024 22:24

MistressoftheDarkSide · 01/05/2024 22:21

@threatmatrix

Are you currently a nail technician by any chance? Or is that one of your many side hustles?

No darling not at all. I don’t need to ‘hustle’ that sounds more like your job 😉

dimllaishebiaith · 01/05/2024 22:26

threatmatrix · 01/05/2024 22:16

Pathetic. Are they three inches long, with diamontes and need refilling every couple of weeks at the cost of around £35? No, but I suggest if you’re able to bend and paint your toenails……..

I'm able to bend and paint my toe nails, does that miraculously mean I'm not disabled any more?

Who knew that was the new way of diagnosing disabilities 😱

MistressoftheDarkSide · 01/05/2024 22:26

threatmatrix · 01/05/2024 22:23

Not when they are paying £35/40 every two weeks on nails, £150+ on lip filler, £200+ on filler and Botox. I’m never mentioned make up.

I didn't realise the NHS had a Stasi department. Gosh you learn something new every day.

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 01/05/2024 22:53

threatmatrix · 01/05/2024 22:23

Not when they are paying £35/40 every two weeks on nails, £150+ on lip filler, £200+ on filler and Botox. I’m never mentioned make up.

Clearly you don’t have a clue about PIP because it’s not means tested. And nothing you’ve said there would indicate somebody didn’t have a disability. I don’t think you even know what PIP is.

Also, you did mention make up. You said ‘always have their faces made up’.

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 01/05/2024 22:54

MistressoftheDarkSide · 01/05/2024 22:26

I didn't realise the NHS had a Stasi department. Gosh you learn something new every day.

That must be the ‘high powered industry’.

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 01/05/2024 22:57

@threatmatrix What does bending have to do with my disability? I didn't realise I was supposed to be rigid 24/7

dimllaishebiaith · 01/05/2024 22:59

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 01/05/2024 22:57

@threatmatrix What does bending have to do with my disability? I didn't realise I was supposed to be rigid 24/7

I'm now questioning my entire life

I mean the relief of knowing I can finally learn to drive, now the test is based on whether I can paint my toenails rather than whether I can see the number plate at the correct distance is overwhelming

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 01/05/2024 23:01

@dimllaishebiaith I painted my finger nails and suddenly I'm fine. Done my toes and it cleared up my ocd! Feel a bit daft now for wasting nhs resources when all I really needed was £3.99 bottle of nail polish

dimllaishebiaith · 01/05/2024 23:07

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 01/05/2024 23:01

@dimllaishebiaith I painted my finger nails and suddenly I'm fine. Done my toes and it cleared up my ocd! Feel a bit daft now for wasting nhs resources when all I really needed was £3.99 bottle of nail polish

Who knew it was so easy, it must be Big Pharma conspiring to keep the benefits of nail varnish a secret from us

If your post is deleted then we will know Big Pharma also controls MNHQ...

HÆLTHEPAIN · 01/05/2024 23:13

TheGrimSqueakersFlea · 01/05/2024 23:01

@dimllaishebiaith I painted my finger nails and suddenly I'm fine. Done my toes and it cleared up my ocd! Feel a bit daft now for wasting nhs resources when all I really needed was £3.99 bottle of nail polish

Can I have the name of the nail polish please because it sounds like I could swap my OCD meds for a couple of coats of that every now and then and I’ll be fine.

I usually do my own toenails too…takes me an hour and I need to recover and take painkillers most times after - but it gives me a sense of achievement. Best take my PIP away! That said, I’m actually getting them done at the salon this week as a treat. The matrix one will burst a blood vessel at the thought no doubt.

Midwinter91 · 01/05/2024 23:17

I think once people start getting benefits they feel entitled to it for life. And lots of people who don’t work due to mental health have no interest in being well enough to work.

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 01/05/2024 23:18

I’ve just realised that I can’t possibly I have a disability, I sometimes buy things from Waitrose. I will report myself to the PIP hotline in the morning.

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 01/05/2024 23:18

Midwinter91 · 01/05/2024 23:17

I think once people start getting benefits they feel entitled to it for life. And lots of people who don’t work due to mental health have no interest in being well enough to work.

What makes you think this? I’m genuinely curious.

IClaudine · 01/05/2024 23:19

Hang on, I think I remember you now @threatmatrix I think you said you overheard people in your (high powered) cafe discussing how they were claiming PIP they didn't really qualify for? Is that you or someone else?.

ETA: found it. Though to be fair to @threatmatrix in this version the big lipped benefit cheats were discussing how to keep their working hours down to 16 so they could keep claiming UC.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5016959-15-of-households-skipped-meals-last-month-because-they-couldnt-afford-to-buy-enough-food?reply=133394482&utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share&utm_source=copylink

HÆLTHEPAIN · 01/05/2024 23:21

TwelveAngryWhiskers · 01/05/2024 23:18

I’ve just realised that I can’t possibly I have a disability, I sometimes buy things from Waitrose. I will report myself to the PIP hotline in the morning.

You won’t need to. Now you’ve posted it on here, threatmatrix will know everything they need to and they will ensure your benefits are stopped immediately! From their high powered cafe of course.

dimllaishebiaith · 01/05/2024 23:26

Midwinter91 · 01/05/2024 23:17

I think once people start getting benefits they feel entitled to it for life. And lots of people who don’t work due to mental health have no interest in being well enough to work.

Someone has already kindly posted the data analysis in this thread that disproves this assumption though

CestLaVie123 · 01/05/2024 23:37

I feel exactly like you OP, and other posters. It is fucking hard x

WiseKhakiGoose · 01/05/2024 23:40

Midwinter91 · 01/05/2024 23:17

I think once people start getting benefits they feel entitled to it for life. And lots of people who don’t work due to mental health have no interest in being well enough to work.

I totally agree with you. The main dream of every person on benefits was when they'll grow up, to receive the PIP enhanced rates and be on Universal Credit. What else can you dream about in your life? It's such a big amount of money to live on.

Everyone who receives it, is driving a Bentley, shopping in Paris and Milan, doing their nails in salons, wearing makeup and going out on holidays across Europe on private jet. They do all this, while being on painkillers and antidepressants.

PIP amounts
Lower weekly rate
Higher weekly rate
Daily living part
£72.65
£108.55
Mobility part
£28.70
£75.75

Standard allowanceYou’ll get one standard allowance for your household.
How much you’ll get
Monthly standard allowance
If you’re single and under 25
£311.68
If you’re single and 25 or over
£393.45
If you live with your partner and you’re both under 25
£489.23 (for you both)
If you live with your partner and either of you are 25 or over
£617.60 (for you both)

WiseKhakiGoose · 01/05/2024 23:41

HÆLTHEPAIN · 01/05/2024 23:21

You won’t need to. Now you’ve posted it on here, threatmatrix will know everything they need to and they will ensure your benefits are stopped immediately! From their high powered cafe of course.

😂👏

TheOriginalEmu · 01/05/2024 23:45

Fedupandgrump · 30/04/2024 13:44

Anyone else on the verge of a breakdown with work, kids, mortgage and cost of living?

I’ve read a lot of threads recently about people with mental health conditions worried about being forced into employment when they feel as though they would not be able to cope. Whilst I sympathise, it’s come at a time where I am completely overwhelmed, burnt out and wonder how the fuck I’m going to get through the week. I treat myself to a half hour sob in Sainsburys car park every couple of days and I wake up every morning with dread, fear and anxiety about what the day will hold. However, I go and work because I. Have. No. Choice. I have two kids and a mad dog that relies on me and my husband to keep our shit together and a roof over our heads. Every day I can feel my heart racing and I feel permanently like I’m in fight or flight mode and I wonder if this is going to lead to a premature heart attack in my 30’s.

I sometimes feel like people who don’t work due to poor mental health thinks those of us who do work, are suffering less than them. I know IAMBU but I can’t help the way I feel at the minute.

my sister doesn’t work due to her mental health, I promise you she doesn’t think she has it harder than you, she thinks she’s the worst person in the world because shes not working, but the fact of it is, she can’t function as an adult. She doesn’t have a husband or children as her MH prevents her from meeting anyone, and she’s terrified of being a parent. She’s scared of leaving the house, she’s scared of getting dressed some days.

So whilst your fears and worries are entirely valid and real and awful and scary…so are hers. It’s not a competition to the bottom.

MferMonsterSearchingForRedemption · 01/05/2024 23:55

I have OCD and anxiety, and there was a time many years ago where I couldn't work. No one took kindly to me spending so much time doing my rituals. Then it got to the stage where I could not function- I could barely sleep or eat. I didn't wash or look after myself, and my days were spent full of panic attack after panic attack. I couldn't do anything except panic, pace around and cry. I couldn't watch TV, do any housework, go out or anything.

It didn't matter that I had bills to pay, I was incapable of working, and no employer would have allowed me to go into work in the state that I was in obviously. I couldn't even be left alone.

I have had an extremely hard two years. I'm exhausted and burnt out and have gone though some massive life changes. My mental health hasn't been great, but I can function so I'm working. How I feel now is shit, but it's not comparable to before.

MichelleMcBelle · 02/05/2024 00:00

WiseKhakiGoose · 01/05/2024 23:40

I totally agree with you. The main dream of every person on benefits was when they'll grow up, to receive the PIP enhanced rates and be on Universal Credit. What else can you dream about in your life? It's such a big amount of money to live on.

Everyone who receives it, is driving a Bentley, shopping in Paris and Milan, doing their nails in salons, wearing makeup and going out on holidays across Europe on private jet. They do all this, while being on painkillers and antidepressants.

PIP amounts
Lower weekly rate
Higher weekly rate
Daily living part
£72.65
£108.55
Mobility part
£28.70
£75.75

Standard allowanceYou’ll get one standard allowance for your household.
How much you’ll get
Monthly standard allowance
If you’re single and under 25
£311.68
If you’re single and 25 or over
£393.45
If you live with your partner and you’re both under 25
£489.23 (for you both)
If you live with your partner and either of you are 25 or over
£617.60 (for you both)

I work with someone who has qualified for PIP. They now receive the daily living allowance after initially being denied and then winning on appeal.

If you know the system and have someone to help you with the forms and to navigate the appeal, you can get there.

The person I work with is extremely clever though and worked the system, even making sure they had far more sick days than normal in the months leading up to the appeal, all logged so that this could be used as ammunition.

I work extremely closely with this person, who works full time, and I was amazed how much they put in to making sure that PIP was granted.

I feel that they have shafted the system as I work with this person, who, after PIP was granted (and back paid 12 months) suddenly had much more of a spring in their step!

WiseKhakiGoose · 02/05/2024 00:24

MichelleMcBelle · 02/05/2024 00:00

I work with someone who has qualified for PIP. They now receive the daily living allowance after initially being denied and then winning on appeal.

If you know the system and have someone to help you with the forms and to navigate the appeal, you can get there.

The person I work with is extremely clever though and worked the system, even making sure they had far more sick days than normal in the months leading up to the appeal, all logged so that this could be used as ammunition.

I work extremely closely with this person, who works full time, and I was amazed how much they put in to making sure that PIP was granted.

I feel that they have shafted the system as I work with this person, who, after PIP was granted (and back paid 12 months) suddenly had much more of a spring in their step!

You do understand that you ONLY WORK with that person. You don’t live with that person. You don't know how that person is feeling after work or during weekends. That person didn't share with you all her medical history and you don't know what happens in that person's life after work.

If that person received PIP, then that person is ill enough to receive it and it was backed by letters from health professionals. And what if she received a backed payment after waiting for the whole year for her PIP?

Are you for real jealous of someone being disabled? You are free to apply for PIP too if you think is so easy to get it while you don’t suffer with any kind of disability and have no medical evidence.

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