Do you begrudge high earners?

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Do you actually understand what they do and why they earn so much?
Would you be actually willing to put in the time and effort yourself?

I see so much griping about people that earn a lot, but I also see a lot of ignorance about why they earn what they do.

Personally I do t think mine should be dropped as I would a lot , I do however think q lot if others should go up to the same levers as mine

Dh builds care homes but at the moment part of his time is focused on building a homeless shelter. He gives a large percentage of his personal earnings every year to charity along with company donations, on top of colossal tax and corporation tax. He's a giver. Are there people out there who actually begrudge success for someone like him?

💯Same here.

No. He sounds like an amazing man. Can you clone him because the world needs more people like him. I begrudge success to people who wouldn’t give their nose droppings away and do everything possible to avoid tax.

Blossomtoes fair enough and thank you

I agree with the other poster that the extra money is usually minimal. DH was asked if he was interested in a supervisor post, he said no. The woman who is doing it now is managing a team of just above minimum wage workers, getting massive pressure from senior management to make sure staff meet challenging targets, is under pressure to work over her hours because of the volume of work, and for that is being paid about £40 more per month after tax and NI. No it is not worth it. Supervisor positions are normally really shit jobs.

Gosh I wish HMRC had the same view of what constitutes a high earner 😂

That's not my experience

In 2023, the average annual full-time earnings for the top ten percent of earners in the United Kingdom was £66,669. £300,000 is more than simply a high earner.

When I worked in the NHS, I was Band 1. Supervisors were Band 2. I saw many colleagues go up to supervisor and demote themselves after a while. The extra pressure and responsibility was not worth the meagre pay rise.
It didn't help that management (on Band 6 at a minimum) were total assholes.

I'm a high earner & I work my arse off for it! I have studied & earned higher education to warrant my pay. So no, I do not begrudge high earning. Trust me, we're not sitting around drinking tea & eating biscuits

Yes I do. More envy. I feel I could never do the work involved to earn a high salary.

@savethatkitty do you think lower paid workers are sitting around drinking tea and eating biscuits?

Oh yes I can't stand the so called self employed ones earning 40/ 50/ 60 k and paying virtually no tax.
Out of order.

@XenoBitch Exactly! I think supervisor jobs are worse than doing manager jobs higher up, and I have done both. You are responsible for the day to day management of people near minimum wage, some of who will be trying to do as little as possible. At the same time you are the person who managers above delegate loads of tasks to, and get you to ensure staff follow any changes to policies and processes even when they make zero sense. It really is the worse of all worlds. It is fine if it is a stepping stone, but otherwise it is nearly always a shitty job for a tiny tiny bit more money.

No, ofcourse not! The post wasn't about lower paid workers. Don't put words in my mouth.

The only Person I know that would fit that category of wealth is always running or cycling, he is rarely working. He is really nice though.

@savethatkitty I asked because I could not figure out why you said high earners do not sit around drinking tea and eating biscuits. Where has that come from?

I was just making a point that I work my arse off to be a high earner. I was trying to say it's not easy & alot of work & skill has lamented me a high earner. Maybe I did not articulate myself properly

DH was a relatively high earner but all PAYE so no room for avoiding tax ( well apart from pension or ISA.) The one thing I would say is that he worked for a young start up newly established in Europe company so because of the work he did and recruiting, a number of other people got jobs because of what he was doing.

He wasn't Bono etc - that was a ludicrous comparison . All PAYE .

This.

No, although i know some low earners work ridiculous hours and very hard. So i don't equate hard workers with any particular wage, i see that more as an individual quality. You get lazy sods in any workplace.

Oodly enough, despite never being a high earner or any possibility of becoming one, i am annoyed for them for the ridiculous tax..I don't see it as particularly fair that if they get a promotion, improve their work or themselves they then have to hand over so much of their own money to the government..they all ready give a lot simply from earning a large amount.

I envy the nice parts being a high earner can afford..but i wouldn't want it for myself, as depending on the job they won't have anonymity, i mean i can google lawyers or CEO and their face is plastered publicly online, i couldn't handle that level of potential scrutiny.
Its too ruthless, especially in finance, perfection seems to be expected which doesn't quite exist in being a person, i feel people demand the impossible and they get dragged over coals if they don't live up to the image.
Also the more you have, the more you can lose, no one is infallible to unfortunate circumstances and i feel due to the jealously surrounding wealth they are a lot more vulnerable to this.
Also from what i have witnessed there is no support, i have a wealthy family member, if they struggle mentally or have a bad day it is dismissed as "what do they have to be sad about" they don't seem to be "allowed" to be unhappy or ever moan.

But maybe this isn't the case and just because of a massive wealth divide in my family and friends thats so in your face that i see such issues.

So i don't begrudge at all, all though atm i am a low earner, my aim is to be comfortable.

The poorest 20% pay a similar proportion of their income in tax as the richest 20% so maybe save your pity

@ThinkAboutItTomorrow yes I think I'll save my pity for those on minimum wage who keep the infrastructure of this country going!

Over £300k!? That's a rather niche earning demographic for a thread.