to ask you about different types of privilege women can have? e.g slim, educated

[pepperandapples]

Just that really - what are the different types of privilege that women can have that make them more or less privileged than other women?

e.g able bodied, wealth, education, slim. What else is there?

is height one? how about hair colour and accent etc?

I am trying to understand

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I dare say you’re the exception rather than the rule. The fact is that the factors for being well-educated, other than the obvious affording private education, often involve having parents who prioritise living in the catchment area of a good school, valuing education and encouraging /supporting their child to study, being able to afford/facilitate extracurricular activities which enhance both learning and university applications, so having this kind of upbringing is a kind of privilege.

I think the concept of privilege is poorly understood enough to not then go and slice it to the nth degree and render it entirely ridiculous

I am trying to understand

Understand what?

Surely you must understand that attending university isn’t an option for some/many young people, even if it is ‘free’.

This is one of the weirdest threads I've ever read on here. I'm slim, it's because I eat healthily and exercise, anyone can do it, it's a lifestyle choice.

The whole privilege thing is just ridiculous IMO, everyone has their issues whether they're a minority, disabled, have poor mental health, are poor, don't have the right hair colour/height/weight/accent (apparently). I mean who's left after all that? Everybody wants to be a victim it seems.

The idea that growing up in a stable, loving home is a 'privilege' is also just ludicrous. It should just be 'the norm' not something considered super special and lucky that only a privileged minority get.

It's all just become nonsense IMO.

As Dr Jessica Taylor coined the term “underclass” which I find a very interesting concept. I would definitely look in to her work if you are interested.

I would add Citizenship Privilege, Geography Privilege and language Privilege.

I think the biggest "privilege" of all is an ability to claim victimhood. Once a person has established themselves as a victim of whatever, they're deemed untouchable. What a power trip that must be to the personalities drawn to that particular manoeuvre.

1. white privilege

2. pretty privilege

3). slim privilege

@pepperandapples You think being skinny is a privilege? You are out of your mind!

I am chubby now but when I was skinny I often knew when female class mates, coworkers or relatives were on a diet because they wanted to KILL me. I have had rude remarks because of my overweight but it is NOTHING compared to the crap that hangry women put me through. And this was in Denmark were people are not as obsessed with looks as in Britain. Quite the opposite really. So I dare not imagine how crap it must be to be skinny in Britain.

And people would say I was sooo lucky to be model size because then it must be soooo easy to find clothes in the shops. The reality was that I had to learn to sew. Now that I am chubby I can buy clothes in any shop as skinny I just gave up.

This.
Men and women alike.

Presumably you’re referring to the corporate world or an occasion that isn’t reliant on appearance such as a model or actor? If you think you need to spend more than him to get you ‘in the room and taken seriously’ then your money would be better off spent on either therapy to improve your self confidence or a career coach to improve your CV/ interview/ speaking skills. You don’t need to shave, have expensive clothes, bags, hair cuts or highlights to be taken seriously.

How do you define privilege? I mean, what are the advantages that the stereotypical white, blonde, pretty woman is meant to be getting?
Are we talking about getting on in a career? Or being liked in friendship groups? Or getting better deals at a car showroom? Or earning more money?

For example, if there were 2 women in the queue for a nightclub. One has blond hair, make up, nice dress, good figure. The other is 15 years older , overweight, wearing grubby joggers, greasy dark unwashed hair. Obviously the bouncer will let the dressed-up woman in. So in this situation, she has privilege.

But what if the dressed-up one is working class, grew up in a neglectful environment, didn’t get any qualifications at school. And the older woman is educated, middle class, well spoken, highly qualified. At a job interview for a high powered admin role, she’s going to be the one with privilege.

Op what's the point of this? If anything this creates division and hatred between people. Shall we actively disadvantage blondes cos they're born that way and it's a nice colour & some prefer it? You do know blonde hair colour is £7 at Tesco?

I'm middle aged and it makes me delightfully invisble. I like it.

I used to have platinum blonde hair .

Used to be regular that drivers would let me turn / pull out , men would let me go in front of them at a bar , if I was waiting to cross a road it would usually always be a man that let me .

Doesn’t happen now I’m not blonde 🤣

Can people stop saying white privilege when what they mean white local. As white immigrant to UK I cannot even count how many times I was discriminated against, laughed at, abused verbally etc.
White privilege with EE name my arse

Spouting bullshit privilege? Is that one?

Some of these things are undoubtedly advantages but this labelling over everything remotely positive as a 'privilege' is absolutely toxic.

This feels a bit antagonistic…

@BeachBeerBbq yes but you would have white privilege in your home country, presumably.

Well yes. That's the point I am making. It is NOT simply white privilege, it is white LOCAL privilege.

What???

"I'm middle aged and it makes me delightfully invisble. I like it."

Me to.
Age has also given me the privilege of giving less of a fuck about what others think.

Yes!
@CalMeKate Citizenship privilege is just ludicrous. Every country gives more rights to citizens than others. What's the point otherwise? Ironically the UK is one of the few countries where non-citizens can vote in national elections.

There's a difference between acknowledging bias faced by different groups. Addressing structural issues that lead to inequality. And come up with a plethora of reasons, excuses etc etc. then you get into the weeds of who has more privilege than others. The next step probably is then determining an overall 'privilege score'.

It's all starting to sound very dystopian and social rankingy.

White, reasonably attractive ( not beautiful), well educated , healthy , intelligent , well spoken.

I am very privileged