to ask you about different types of privilege women can have? e.g slim, educated

[pepperandapples]

Just that really - what are the different types of privilege that women can have that make them more or less privileged than other women?

e.g able bodied, wealth, education, slim. What else is there?

is height one? how about hair colour and accent etc?

I am trying to understand

This whole privilege thing is so tedious. All the navel-gazing and angst about whether you're privileged compared to other people, usually due to factors you have zero control over.

Just stop wasting time stressing about this nonsense and get on with life best you can.

So what about the traveller community? Dont they still have a horrendous mortality rate? And suicide rate. Travellers are white.

But racism still has a huge impact. I am white living in the UK and therefore do not have to suffer the immense stresses of racism. This is a privilege.

Why's that? I acknowledge that if someone had an eating disorder or other illness linked to weight it might not be construed as a privilege to be slim / thin.

All else being equal, being white is a privilege. It doesn't mean that all white people are rich and all non-white people are poor.

In the UK. But the UK is a tiny cork in the ocean.

They are part of a marginalised community that is routinely discriminated against. You are right that other factors have to be taken into account apart from just being white.

Genetics. I will be short and dumpy no matter how much I exercise, just like my parents and grandparents before me.

My best friend and her children will be tall and muscular like their Viking family before them.

Tall and attractive people are paid more than short or less attractive. Many studies show this.

Race, class, disability (or lack), income, mental health, stable home (or lack), Adverse Childhood Experience and sexuality are far more crucial in privilege or the lack, but “pretty privilege” and “thin privilege” exist.

Look no further than the current occupant of 10 Downing Street.

He wasn't elected ...

You may not recognise it, but it is a real social advantage. Thin people are more likely to get jobs, for example (over a fat person with the same experience etc) - the assumption (maybe unconsciously) being that a fat person is lazier or less disciplined, or a more acceptable image for client meetings, etc.

Weight and height i think are often not recognised as the powerful factors they are. You can be petite ( Kylie is 5’2) as long as you are slim - be short and overweight and i think people consider you childlike sometimes

BEST point ever.

That must be why there are so many short fat super models then.

It's important to understand the impact of privilege on different categories. Not to point fingers, navel gaze or put anybody down, which is what people love to do.

To understand how we can challenge perceived biases.

As a PP said POC are judged as soon as they open their mouth but IME the accent that comes out is a far greater indicator of whether you'll be taken seriously. Many POC are from wealthy families, went to international school and speak in a very polished way.

I always listen to the meat of people's points and train my people etc to do the same. Focus on what they are saying not how they say it.

This also relates to how 'female' speech patterns like using more words etc is seen as weak and not concise. Even though they have a point.

Absolutely agree. This thread is either to have a go at people you perceive to have more than you or to feel sorry for yourself. It won't end well.

Privilege and its perception isn’t immutable. In the fine art world the worst possible thing to be currently is a straight white male.

The biggest privilege I had in the working world was intelligence allied with education.

Sorry to be pedantic but Kylie is 5ft.

Oh, yes, I agree. Although I am just talking about in a UK context for the purpose of this thread

It depends how you define the word 'privilege' really, doesn't it? If you define it as anything which is even vaguely beneficial, it becomes a bit meaningless imo. How is being fairly tall a privilege? What's the great benefit you gain from being, say, 5'9" as a woman, rather than 5'4"?

There's an interesting opposite to privilege (disadvantage?) I noticed this morning when talking to my husband about haircuts and clothes. I have white privilege, educational, accent, tallness, some blonde privileges, which I am aware of. However in order to 'activate' any personal benefit or gain from these I need to spend significantly more of my disposable income on grooming than men do. My DH has a jacket from M&S and a £40 haircut and he's good to go. I spend huge amounts more on razors, clothes, bags, hair cut and highlights, etc - and all this even given my professional look is pretty low maintainance. This is purely to spend the least possible to get me in the room and taken seriously.

In Ireland we’re privledged to be a neutral country, although some might say that means we’re more screwed! Also climate wise that we don’t have anything more than mini storms compared to the rest of the world.

Being a women is a bigger disadvantage than any of the differences we have between us.

Marrying well is a privilege.

You can be thick as pig shit, uninteresting, bad looking and still somehow end up with 2 houses and not having to work.

Married well vs single is one of the biggest acquired privileges IMO

Yes was about to say white privilege

He won't be re-elected as PM though will he? The Tories leaned heavily into a demographic that contains a lot of racists for votes at the last GE and those people won't vote for a non-white PM.