To teach all day for £11.90 p/h?

[Sooooootired01]

I'm a qualified teacher primarily working as a SEN HLTA. Pay £11.60 an hour. OK I guess.
Last week I covered for a teacher who had gone on residential. This meant teaching all day from Monday - Wednesday, a full and routine curriculum of English and Maths etc. 30 kids in a class, no supervision, completely left to own devices. Again, I'm qualified so fair enough. Lessons preplanned but of course still needed delivery.
AIBU to think that paying me rate of £11.60 p/h for this is not OK?

Good for you.
You must be so successful.
Well done.

Yes and they get away with it because it’s a predominantly female profession.

Patriarchy strikes again.

Sickening.

@Hateam I wish I could, but there are no sheets. I am expected to teach in exactly the same way as the other two teachers in the year group. This means a fully taught input, followed by class work. And this is by no means disrespectful to my other HLTA colleagues, but this is not something they could do. Hence why they don't.

I can see that.

If you can, leave. There must be easier ways to earn that money.

This is not ok. But as with any employers they will pay the least they can get away with, and "get away with" is defined as "The employee still comes to work and hasn't resigned"

There are loads of schools with vacancies. Move to a school that will pay you decently. The previous school will try to recruit a replacement for you that can do what you do for barely more than minimum wage, will fail to recruit and will only then be allowed to attempt to recruit at a higher wage. That is the only mechanism by which the job gets paid properly. It will not happen if you stay put.

I feel your pain, I'm a TA, I've covered 3 days this week, teaching on my own and one day with no break, had to beg a member of office staff to watch the children so I could go to the toilet.

I've earned the grand total of £8.25 extra for the 3 days, on top of my £10.15 per hour. And they wonder why TA's are leaving education in droves.

When I was a HLTA (but qualified with QTS), I was given a full teaching timetable. Teaching pupils with SEN. I was expected to plan and teach 25 lessons a week as well as be responsible for parent communication, a fork class, assessment and report writing.

I complained, all above board according to the council.

Why are you being paid £10.15 an hour. Are you under 21?

If you're a qualified teacher, get a job as a teacher

You would be better off doing part time supply teaching.

Nope, very much over 21. We don't get paid for the holidays, so we are pro rota. Our wages are spread out to get paid over the holidays.

So you are still getting paid above £10.15 per hour for the hours you work. So not really accurate to say that you get £10.15 an hour.

I regularly do the same but as a Level 2B TA so don't get paid as much as you. My local council rewrote all our contracts to make it part of our normal job description so I can't refuse it. Our school also has zero budget left after the last pay rises so I'm no longer allowed to claim overtime. I've just about had enough tbh. I'm bloody good at my job, work incredibly hard and deserve better. The only thing stopping me from leaving is not wanting to let colleagues or pupils down.

@cansu Not guaranteed income so I can't.

YABU to keep making these posts under different user names... haven't you got the answers you wanted by now.

Tbh I think that if you registered with another agencies you would get a good income. Schools are crying out for supply. I would get in touch with agencies and discuss how much work you could get. I get the impression that you don't want the responsibility of being a teacher which is fine. However you will continue to be exploited by your employer for peanuts.

Oh! Is this the poster who is leaving anyway and going to train as a counsellor or something?

Is that you, @Sooooootired01 ? When do you leave?

What does your job description say about your role and responsibilities? What Grade/Band are you to be paid £11.60 p/h?

Im an HLTA on Grade D and get paid £13.50 p/h.

Do you have a union rep for support staff who you could ask for advice?

This is so sad to hear. I work in a warehouse setting as the lowest paid unskilled worker and the last time I was on £11 was about 8 years ago. No wonder education is no longer valued. I heard agency support workers earn more than qualified nurses too. I hope you find something better paid soon.

I haven’t read the thread, but I’m not a qualified teacher, and I teach SEN kids for £30 per hour, one on one, in their home or sometimes somewhere neutral.

I get constant phone calls from other agencies offering me work and a higher rate. I expect you could get £45 ph easily. There are so many kids out of school and needing this support that there is a ton of work out there.

You set the distance you’re willing to travel and you read the EHCP before deciding whether to take them on. I’ve been lucky to have the most amazing kids to work with. I moved to a different county and they didn’t want a new tutor, so I’ve continued with them remotely at the same rate.

Put your CV on the usual job sites and the offers will flood in. Make sure your SEN experience is on there. PM if I can help with any more info.

That's interesting. One of the TAs at school has been asked to go and teach a student in their home. No doubt she'll still be getting her TA wage though from the school.

How snobby.

I take it you don't use shops? Order online? Use any service where people are paid that hourly rate?

People do what they have to. It may not be right. But they do.

If the other male HLTA is getting better compensation for the same work then I would raise it as gender discrimination. They don't have to treat you better, but they are clearly using the fact that you are less able to say no against you.

I used to get paid a supplementary amount for any lesson cover I did. It was £5 an hour I think. I had to fill in a form stating how many I'd done that month with days and times.

The only issue is that I started having to pay tax because I'd done so many!

I think you should be having words about the Supplementary Allowance.

All those saying just don't do it, it's not as simple as that. School leadership teams are brilliant at isolating and turning people against anyone who doesn't want to go above and beyond. Big time bully culture in schools