To look back on the things we did in lockdown and cringe?

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Isn't it all just really cringeworthy when we look back?

The clapping on our doorsteps, all that false commradarie and "we're all in this together" and the drawings of rainbows in people's windows?
Condemning our neighbours for buying Easter Eggs because they weren't "essential" and wondering whether we would get arrested for sitting on a park bench?

At the time I, and probably loads of us, thought we were doing the right things but doesn't it all just look so false and hollow now when we look back and see that number 10 were having parties and Dominic Cummings was running around the country testing his eyesight? My kids missed out on so much while this was going on, my mental and physical health has still not recovered from the effects of lockdown, and for what?

Know what I mean?

And from those two images you draw which evidence-based conclusion?

Because they are not connected. And both those figures are symbolic cartoons.

I never did any of those things because I knew it was all just nonsense. Even the captain Tom story was overhyped nonsense.
Most things are nowadays.

A friend was fine until June 2022, her husband flew to Spain on a golfing holiday and returned with covid. He had the sniffles, she got really sick eventually diagnosed with long covid. She didn't see her grandchildren for many months ironically had to isolate because her health was so precarious. A year later she did go to an event we chatted, she said that she was just waiting to die.

18 months after catching covid she turned the corner and her health slowly began to improve.

Our local small hospital has a self group they meet up to discuss their issues, what helps, what to avoid.

We're going to be studying the covid effect for a long time.

Counselling is helping 🙏🏼, thank you @TheFormidableMrsC

Also what the party gate scandal clearly demonstrated was that either A) Boris and his pals had a death wish and didn't care if they caught this highly transmissible killer virus or B) they knew it wasn't as deadly as they were telling the public it was.

I am not 100% but I think it was the Queen Mother who, when it was suggested that the she and the then Princesses Elizabeth and Margaret went to Canada during the Second World War, said "How would I ever look the East End in the eye again?"

This was the late Queens "East End" moment. She could have insisted on a private funeral, to sit with her family and be comforted, but she didnt. She showed the rest of the world that she would follow the same rules as they did, that her privilege didnt give her immunity from Covid or the law.

I am no monarchist, the opposite infact, but I had such admiration for her that day and still do. She used her position for good, its a shame that her government ministers did not do the same.

I think they went a bit mad as well. Long hours, no end in sight to the misery, deaths and the economy.

I see what you mean but
I’m not really seeing that so much.
I’m seeing more bragging about doing nothing, people not caring about others and even some not giving a toss about doctors and nurses.

If we ever have another pandemic I doubt many will protect themselves, the nhs or even their loved ones on the basis of many of these remarks.

Like wearing an amulet, or touching their nose three times when they see a red bird and shouting "Kazam!"

If people resort to superstitious acts to get through their fear, it's up to them, (though unhealthy, mentally, in some ways,) but others shouldn't be obligated to play along just to make them feel more secure.

I was really happy with lockdown. Everything was better. No crowds, no cars, just peace and quiet.

I fucking detested the clapping. I was incensed by it.

When everyone clapped, I opened my window and screamed "PAY NHS WORKERS A FUCKING LIVING WAGE" over and over again.

I thought it was all ridiculous bullshit then and I think it’s even more bullshit now.

I do wonder if we have another pandemic how compliant the world will be

This post is going to be very divisive and the government where and still are a complete shambles but I do think lockdown was necessary to slow down the spread of the virus, try to stop the NHS being swamped with COVID patients (& other illnesses) and to give time for the vaccine to be rolled out. I have relatives in New Zealand and they had a great timely response to the pandemic in which they were able to control the virus a lot more successfully than we did and therefore had a lot less casualties. There will be people on here who have lost family members to COVID or they themselves have long COVID (or they worked with COVID patients etc) and reading about people saying it was all nonsense and they didn't bother is going to be hurtful.

I used to love lockdown MN..

Loads of bored (usually pissed) women posting all sorts of stuff! And reacting in a totally different way to the way they did before and since Very entertaining! I vividly remember posting my secret recipe for Espresso Martini which ended with "Drink lying on the lounge floor as that is where you end up anyway"!

It's more usual to list the main cause as, say, heart disease, and the secondary cause as pneumonia.

The problem becomes, if you begin to switch it around, you have buggered up your statistical analysis. You couldn't compare your covid deaths, say, to deaths caused by other respiratory viruses.

That's a real problem.

What superstitious acts were made into rules during lockdown.
I don’t remember being told to shout “Kazam”, or anything of the kind.

No I’m not embarrassed and no one except the government should be.
The vast majority of people acted sensibly given the scientific evidence and total lack of treatment available. More people cared and helped their communities and neighbours than reported one another. We made the best of a bad situation.

I think the government are hoping to rewrite the past, peddling the idea that lockdown wasn’t necessary and their parties weren’t that bad.

I clapped every week and it genuinely was a highlight of every week (I know it sounds pathetic!). I had just had my first baby when we went into lockdown so it was one of the only ways she got to see people in 'real life' (I am aware that a newborn doesn't care about such things, and also that that wasn't the aim of the clapping!).
Four years on, if I go to a new town, I often catch myself thinking 'what would it have been like outside of these houses when everyone was clapping?'. I don't enjoy the thought and have to really snap myself out of it. Hopefully that will stop happening one day!

Apparently I misremembered suggesting drinking it on the lounge floor, although falling over is mentioned.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/3883549-I-have-found-the-solution-to-lockdown

The only good thing about the first lockdown was the weather. It’s 4 degrees tonight and bl**dy freezing and raining daily. I’m sure we wouldn’t have taken the lockdown half as well as we knuckled down to it if it had been this year

I did the clapping because I do love the nhs, but it was something to do to break the day up, too.

I cringe at some of the shit I used to do - like wash my shopping, but at the same time, I've had cancer and suffer with pancreatitis due to hormone fluctuations so was very wary.

My cancer nurse was very much on the front line running covid wards so I followed his guidance - which was always be sensible.

I never doubted the existence of Covid, and I knew it was serious, but never once did I believe that it came from a fucking bat - that makes me cringe more than anything - that people argued the toss about its origin when there's a fuck off lab next door to this wet market that supposedly caused it.

A fucking bat though 🙃🙃🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

Are you cringing about the Peter Kay ‘mum at a wedding’ impression?
😂😂

While a critical & healthy scepticism of government & media is to be applauded I can't help but notice you simply parroting the conspiracy nonsense we get from GBnews and its ilk.

There was no biased inquiry. Independent studies are clear that locking down even a week earlier would have saved up to a half of lives lost, as well as removing the need for at least one of the later lockdowns.

As for the virus not being deadly, it was and still is and unlike a cold the cumulative effects of repeated infections are causing fundamental long term illness. The cost to economy which is likely to dwarf that of the pandemic over the next decade or three.

That "untested vaccine" is now one of the most widely administered vaccines in history.

The scandal was in the corruption in awarding contracts to mates and in our government ignoring the rules.

The Iraq war was an American project, driven by Rumsfield. Blair's folly was in believing the lie by the US that al-qaeda was active in Iraq & mi6 in providing a poorly assessed dossier to support Blair's position.

You're hyberbole about fear, control etc simply doesn't resonate with me. Yes, our government & our press are appalling. But I know a lot of the scientists who were working with SAGE and they're independent, honest scientists. Not billionaire press barons or corrupt politicians.

It's like you can't give a warning without being accused of fear mongering. The same people plying the fear narrative are mostly the same people who dismissed the arguments against Brexit as project fear. How did that pan out?

I would love to know the source of those videos from China.
Real videos? But that's not how Covid took people - you didn't fall down dead as you went about your daily business.
Chinese propaganda?
American propaganda?
Trolls trying to frighten people, with clips from films?
It would be illuminating to know for sure

I had the best time during that first lockdown. My kids were going to school 2 days a week, I was still working from home and the office p/t which kept me busy and doing an important job but i had glorious long weekends with my kids. The weather was gorgeous. We spent more good quality time together in 2020 than at any other time. We went on long walks, we had the paddling pool out, we baked and crafted and learned so much together. I wish it could have lasted longer.