To look back on the things we did in lockdown and cringe?

[Applescruffle]

Isn't it all just really cringeworthy when we look back?

The clapping on our doorsteps, all that false commradarie and "we're all in this together" and the drawings of rainbows in people's windows?
Condemning our neighbours for buying Easter Eggs because they weren't "essential" and wondering whether we would get arrested for sitting on a park bench?

At the time I, and probably loads of us, thought we were doing the right things but doesn't it all just look so false and hollow now when we look back and see that number 10 were having parties and Dominic Cummings was running around the country testing his eyesight? My kids missed out on so much while this was going on, my mental and physical health has still not recovered from the effects of lockdown, and for what?

Know what I mean?

thank you. Im not sure what my point is really, other than that my cohort of very poorly humans with long covid are collateral damage of the virus that are never mentioned in these threads. There is very little research into us but anecdotally, those of us who caught the delta variant (or those who lost taste and smell) seem to be much much sicker, for much much longer than those who got long covid from later variants such as omicron.

I wouldn't say that I was or wasn't a fan of lockdown at the time - we had very little to go on. But I absolutely didn't trust Johnson's government to make good decisions, so I was pretty worried about everything. Hindsight is a great thing and I completely get that people have differing views on what happened. But. If we hadn't locked down, there almost certainly would have been a lot more people suffering what I have been through and whilst that is rarely spoken about, that would have been awful both for individuals, families. communities, the economy and the country.

Long covid is really really really really hard.

I was shocked by how quickly and happily British people adhered to, and enforced the silly little rules

Loads of MNers just loved the whole thing

I loved the lock down vibe myself. Made me realise what was important and the feeling of community I the local area was lovely

Let's not forget Whitty and Valance fudging figures and getting caught out for lying a few times during COVID.

Trust the experts they say but the experts were liars.

That's not what you said. You said:
"Perhaps they were willing to take the risk with the virus because they don't trust their government."

Which is embarrassing, as demonstrated in my last post. I understand why you might want to move the debate on, so.

I said this to a friend, an NHS manager, she said, 'Yes, but we ran out of body bags, you know.'

This. In the 1st London hospitals wards and intensive cares were swamped. It was horrific, the death toll was huge. Less so in other cities but then the second wave the following Christmas hit them harder. It’s sad how quickly people forget. And yes I didn’t see a vulnerable relative who’s now has passed but I was too high risk to see them at that time. And no I’m not still testing or anything as the risk is much lower now due to vaccination., immunity and mutation of the virus but at the time it was real and serious and unprecedented so it’s not surprising people did things a bit unusual

Well I don't trust the government. That is generally my viewpoint.

They say one thing when it suits them and then another when it doesn't.

So when they're telling me to take a vaccine or otherwise I won't be able to mix in public, that entrenches my viewpoint that they can't be trusted and are trying to take freedoms away.

Whether the govt tell me I'm low risk or not makes not much difference because if they'd said "covid kills more 35 yo mums of 2 than any other demographic" I'd still have thought, well I'm young, fit and healthy so I'll take a calculated risk and hope im OK. And even if I end up dead, the government doesn't get to try to force me to vaccinate myself against my will.

To me, that's a hill to die on.

I will admit that I absolutely lost my mind in lockdown and would quarantine online deliveries in the garage and disinfect my shopping outside before bringing it in but I quickly regained it after one of my neighbours stood in the middle of the street shouting how disgraceful it was that none of us had come out to bang pots and pans at 8pm. I often wonder if he feels ashamed about that now.

In my earlier post about the psychology of how people responded to threat, I should have also mentioned the fact that some people think that, because one thing an authority says is disputed or flawed, everything else they say, however well evidenced, cannot be believed.

These people cannot understand the various factors - simple probability, plus a situation which is unstable due to emerging evidence, plus the need to deliver a coherent and consistent message to a large population - mean that inevitably, small parts of the bigger message might be wrong .

Non-neanderthals are grateful for the fact that most of what they say, in any given moment of evidence and understanding, is right.

Also, 'right' changes as the evidence changes.

I didn't do any of those things. I was just....busy working.

I get that some people couldn't, were furloughed etc. Maybe some of that mad behaviour was just an attempt to feel like they were doing something, anything, to help, no matter how misguided. It's scary when something unexpected like a pandemic happens. People have to find a way to feel like they have some control, have some kind of influence.

Exactly. I got horrible looks off neighbours for a long time for not clapping.

I absolutely loved it. It felt like all the bullshit & noise had finally been switched off and we could live in peace. Golden times.

I never clapped or drew rainbows.
I enjoyed the time without people around me
and the Lockdown actually started a thing for me,
for the fifth year I'm making an excuse why not to fly and visit relatives in another country.
They just live too long.

@Dacadactyl

So is it all governments across the globe you don’t trust as they were all advising to take the vaccine?
Sweden had one of the highest vaccine uptakes in Europe - as advised by their government.

I read this in a Deliverance voice.

Go you, you dying in your lounge on your hill would definitely have stick it to the government eh.

@WinterDeWinter no, we understand all that but just came to a different conclusion to you.

And if "right" can change with the wind, I'm happy to stick with the status quo.

We all die.

Nope it's lie to me once I won't trust you again because they shouldn't lie in the first place which is reasonable position

Rest of your post is pretentious and calling people thick.

And no Whitty and Valance presented lies knowingly. For that they aren't to be trusted in future.

And if "right" can change with the wind, I'm happy to stick with the status quo.

@Dacadactyl oh boy you're going to shit your hillbilly pants when you hear about scientific progress, and especially how it speeds up when people are dying in droves.

Never did these things. I just handled my job as a hospital nurse and my family. And tried to stay sane.
I never do it again. I was the worst time of my life.

You are JUST hilarious.

Enjoy your evening.

Wow so you think it's acceptable for them to lie.

Disgusting person.

@YourWinter the poster is correct, as a (presumably healthy) 35 year old she was at minimal risk from Covid, This was known very early on in the Pandemic.