To look back on the things we did in lockdown and cringe?

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Isn't it all just really cringeworthy when we look back?

The clapping on our doorsteps, all that false commradarie and "we're all in this together" and the drawings of rainbows in people's windows?
Condemning our neighbours for buying Easter Eggs because they weren't "essential" and wondering whether we would get arrested for sitting on a park bench?

At the time I, and probably loads of us, thought we were doing the right things but doesn't it all just look so false and hollow now when we look back and see that number 10 were having parties and Dominic Cummings was running around the country testing his eyesight? My kids missed out on so much while this was going on, my mental and physical health has still not recovered from the effects of lockdown, and for what?

Know what I mean?

The way the media were making it out that EVERYONE would get Covid in the same way as a child loses their baby teeth.

I remember all of it and huge arguments if someone didn’t go up and down the arrows the right way or someone forgot something and tried to go back.
Some people I know still are sticking to mask, online deliveries, no friends around etc and wfh and some at the time were macho - no Covid will stop me for meeting my mates and have a laugh.

Various over zealous police forces and incidents caused me to lose all my trust in the police as it never has recovered Sarah E etc

I remember everyone spouting ‘I’m a key worker’ and we were all supposed to get down on bended need and worship anyone who was a key worker or in the nhs. The politicians thanking nurses and forgetting about their work

I also remember various people crowing over working for the nhs and getting the jab early and proudly saying they were wfh but entitled - one working from home receptionist said she was getting one in the local WA group despite never going into work etc and got lambasted

the bubbles at school but then your children playing together at home

sending all the kids in the school or year home

I remember an ex friend who was a GP talking about her work load becoming much lower as she was given a list of patient to call. And people stopped phoning for minor ailments and anything major breathing to an and e. She used to text me saying she had finished for the day at 3 despite supposedly working to 6 pm. She said it was great phone call and etc and she never went into the surgery ever. And didn’t for ages after. I appreciate that other gps worked hard but she admitted she didn’t

I appreciate the people in the nhs who did look after patients etc but some people used it as a holiday.

My youngest child was having daily salt and didn’t have one session for 8 months as it just shut his school. Nothing no work set no online salt as (not secure) no online lessons. Online learning on schools was horrific kids sat at desks and constant in front of a screen all day etc

One of my kids is a nurse, one is married to a doctor. It was hard for those on the frontline and I hope you are doing OK.

I’m so sorry. I wasn’t comparing DD’s wedding to your df dying alone.

Boris is and always will be an unsufferable arse.

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This was really jumping the shark:

I’m surprised by some of these comments, because I remember a couple of times when someone posted on here that eg they didn’t think their neighbour was working from home properly, cos they were always out in the garden, and absolutely got their arse handed to them.

As for the social distancing, when we had no clue what type of virus it was and there was no treatment for it, that was absolutely sensible and I’d do it again. I know many people who caught it anyway, some died, some have long Covid.

They're now rewriting the excess death methodology, so we won't need to worry about the consequences of delays in diagnosis and treatment

It's all so depressingly predictable isn't it - what's that I was saying about stats being used to prove anything according to taste?

Speaking of deaths/funerals and those who've mentioned not even being able to support others in their grief, I guess that would depend on who's funeral it is:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-56846218

https://www.wisbechstandard.co.uk/news/22646190.traveller-funeral-not-breach-covid-rules-confirm-police/

https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/18926195.abingdon-traveller-funeral-oxford-mail-readers-shocked/

A friend I had in my early 20s died from the cold sore virus. Both deaths are tragic and untimely. It still remains true that the vast majority of people in their 20s don't die from covid or the cold sore virus. It's also true that locking down puts every single person's life at risk and there are 22 year olds who died from lockdown - because they no longer had support, because they couldn't cope with isolation, because the treatment they had for the non-covid illness they had was disrupted or stopped. The fact that people in their 20s died does not justify trapping children at home with abusers and denying them the respite they had in school. It does not justify isolating elderly people who declined due to lack of support. It does not justify destroying the economy so that many thousands more people are struggling and are drifting into poverty, which by the way is the biggest killer in the world. It does not.

I've had covid twice, the first time I didn't know I'd had it. The second time was really bad, I was ill for 8 weeks and had long covid for over 18 months. I think it still affects my chest, any cold I get I'm on antibiotics, sometimes 2 or 3 lots. I think there is a good chance I will die from a chest infection at some point, no one will say it is covid as I had it years ago but the damage is done.

I'm sorry to hear that. I'm also sorry to hear that you had to endure lockdowns and all the effects that they bring and you still got covid. Clearly the lockdown didn't do much for you.

Lockdown itself was mostly confined to late March and April, if you were lucky enough to have a garden/be furloughed you could soak up the sun all day. Unless you were directly affected that month was a novelty.

By the May bank holiday you have street parties and conga lines, it was pretty much over after that, although December/Jan was pretty grim.

My children didn't go back to school until September 2020. I couldn't give a shit about Conga lines, I wanted them to have an education, which I think isn't too much to ask.

I only followed certain rules such as not seeing people because no one else would break the rules with me!

I only had the first jab bc I needed to travel abroad.

I always thought it was all a load of bollocks - never did any of that shite like clapping on my doorstep. People lost their minds and I lost respect for a lot of people whom I’d previously considered reasonably intelligent and capable of critical thinking. Like my FIL who insisted that nhs workers should be forcibly vaccinated or lose their jobs and they were “selfish” not to do so.

It was the stuff of 1984 brought terrifyingly into reality.

Lockdown contributed to his death. Covid could well have killed him, it did kill my uncle and many thousands more. It's still killing people now and leaving millions with long covid.

There are lots of decisions made which will contribute to excess deaths, austerity economics for example was linked to more than 330,000 excess deaths.

Yes! It was a huge overreaction and went on far too long. I clapped on the doorstep as I lived in a cul de sac and it’s the only contact some of the elderly people had with the outside world. And I did the rainbows as I had young kids. I don’t regret that but I do regret getting the vaccine. Glad I didn’t get the kids vaccinated. I think it was all a con.

That doesn't really answer the question but I imagine you don't want to answer it, which I understand.

It must have varied round the country, I don't think we saw a police officer during the whole thing. DH got the jab early as he is disabled, we had to drive to a centre about 30 miles away. As we drove down the motor way (only two junctions but seemed like an adventure at the time) we were expecting to be stopped but not a police officer in sight.

The thing I cringe about is when we got to the vaccination centre I explained I wasn't there for the jab, I was supporting my disabled husband. They asked my age, I was 67, nurse went off and spoke to someone senior and came back and said I could have my jab as well. I was so excited which seems crazy now.

You seem to have information that eluded top medical experts. I’m not even going to argue with you. Believe what you will.

Restrictions went on too long in the end. It wasn't until the vaccines were rolled out everything was back open properly, everything else was more gradual.

From May until September hardly anyone had Covid, obviously once schools/hospitality opened back up and more socialising it came back with a vengeance that winter. December-January was particularly grim with the death toll. The vaccines kicked in after that.

@Oneofthesurvivors

"You knew all this in March 2020"

By March most of it yes such as age distribution of deaths (the data and information was publicly available), that young people were least at risk, that it was a coronavirus and would most likely transmit like other coronaviruses and the role of naturally acquired resistance.

By June 2020 there was publicly available data and information on the others points of correlation with obesity, mutations becoming less dangerous.

I genuinely have no idea what you mean. Just to clarify, it is a fact that for people in their 20s covid isn't a threat. It also is a fact that crippling the economy, destroying businesses and denying children education has a massively negative effect on the whole of society. None of that is controversial or hard to understand is it?

Thank you. The lockdowns did protect me, I got it after the lockdowns.

I never clapped, thought it was weird at the time even and seemed so wrong. Bloody annoying too!

Also I did sit on numerous benches and went for walks as I saw fit.

Could pretty much see the government were making it all up as they went along.

It was a threat to the people in their 20s who died.