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To look back on the things we did in lockdown and cringe?

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Applescruffle · 25/04/2024 13:06

Isn't it all just really cringeworthy when we look back?

The clapping on our doorsteps, all that false commradarie and "we're all in this together" and the drawings of rainbows in people's windows?
Condemning our neighbours for buying Easter Eggs because they weren't "essential" and wondering whether we would get arrested for sitting on a park bench?

At the time I, and probably loads of us, thought we were doing the right things but doesn't it all just look so false and hollow now when we look back and see that number 10 were having parties and Dominic Cummings was running around the country testing his eyesight? My kids missed out on so much while this was going on, my mental and physical health has still not recovered from the effects of lockdown, and for what?

Know what I mean?

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Hotchocolateand5marshmellows · 25/04/2024 14:34

I was terrified that my mum would die in the beginning and that drove a lot of my sticking to the rules, and feeling upset with people didn't. My mum was high risk with really severe asthma so I was 100% convinced if she got it that I'd lose her. Thankfully she was fully vaccinated before getting covid for the first time. I also found a lot of ableist attitudes to the whole thing quite upsetting. As if people dying from covid was just tough luck and instead of staying in we should just have survival of the fittest.

What I always thought was bonkers though was all the contradictory rules and the tiers and the time when you could go to a football match with thousands of people, but my brother got kicked out of hospital when his child was born. None of it made sense to me at the time when the rules started to relax but weren't fully gone.
Don't even get me started on when my child went back to school for one single day after Christmas and then schools shut again. What on earth was that??

So yes, a lot of it was mad but the fear of covid itself was real for people with a vulnerable loved one pre vaccine. I had a vaccine as soon as I could.

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 14:35

Great post @Whoknows101, it gets to the heart of so much of this.

1dayatatime · 25/04/2024 14:35

I remember having several conversations with my older children during the lockdown saying that in years to come people will look back on the Covid lockdowns as mass hysteria and that it will be justified by others saying that "it's easy to say that in hindsight" whereas the reality it's not hindsight- there were many many people pointing this out at the time except that because of the mass hysteria they were shouted down as Covid deniers or anti vaxx or tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists.

IsadoraQuagmire · 25/04/2024 14:36

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None of that is a reason to be ageist.

exomoon · 25/04/2024 14:36

Whoknows101 · 25/04/2024 14:32

It was an unprecedented time for most members of modern society.

The concept of individuals having to substantially moderate their behaviour when their own risk was likely to be very low, in the context of risks that were very high on a widespread public health level, was very difficult to convey. I thought the government did a poor job at the time and unforgivably the actions of some senior figures really served to pretty much irreversibly undermine the messaging over the course of the pandemic.

It was not surprising that the majority of the general public lack the critical thinking skills to grasp the fundamental issues in such an extreme and novel circumstance, hence the continued and nonsensical variations on the "I'll make my own risk assessment" theme despite overwhelming evidence that public health doesn't and cannot work in that manner in a pandemic. That was 100% predictable and not nearly enough effort was made to educate the population in ways that they would understand from the outset. That left the door open for the inevitable conspiracy theories to influence a lot of people in a short space of time.

We are incredibly fortunate that the omicron variant came along and changed the entire course of the pandemic.

It's telling that people still don't understand just how close our intensive care services were to becoming overwhelmed, and a complete lack of insight into the extent that a modern healthcare system would collapse in that eventuality.

We are incredibly fortunate that the omicron variant came along and changed the entire course of the pandemic.

This is interesting, what happened?

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 14:38

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 14:32

Then you agree with me that pregnant women were thrown under the bus, you just think it was justifiable. That's an argument that could've been made without pretending they were all thirtysomething and healthy.

And pregnant women are a specific group who experience some things that nobody else does. It's therefore entirely reasonable to speak about them and their welfare specifically.

Not thrown under the bus. More, also asked to weather restrictions that would have been unimaginable a few months previously.

I think everyone who went through a major life event during that time will remember forever the impact on them.

For me it was my DH leaving me and the baby in recovery, the tiny covid funeral for my dad and breaking the rules by hugging both my mum and my sister when he died.

exomoon · 25/04/2024 14:38

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Wasn’t everyone alone?

People were dying alone, like the 13yo boy who died alone in hospital.

MissSunbeam · 25/04/2024 14:40

Theredfoxfliesatmidnight · 25/04/2024 13:09

Not to be that person.... but I never did any of this stuff so I wouldn't know! I was as aghast at the cringing then as you are now, and my posts on here from the time bear that out.

Yes the nation did collectively lose its mind.

100% this.

LBFseBrom · 25/04/2024 14:40

I didn't do the clapping but kept isolated. I bought too much in the way of canned and packet food but other than that, not much changed. I'd been having groceries delivered for years before Covid.

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 14:41

exomoon · 25/04/2024 14:36

We are incredibly fortunate that the omicron variant came along and changed the entire course of the pandemic.

This is interesting, what happened?

Omicron is much less severe and much more transmissible than the other variants. It very quickly overtook the other variants meaning more people could get covid without getting seriously ill.

Combined with vaccines and increased immunity from previous infections it changed covid to the more minor, run of the mill illness it is today. Most covid infections now are of an Omicron variant.

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 14:42

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 14:38

Not thrown under the bus. More, also asked to weather restrictions that would have been unimaginable a few months previously.

I think everyone who went through a major life event during that time will remember forever the impact on them.

For me it was my DH leaving me and the baby in recovery, the tiny covid funeral for my dad and breaking the rules by hugging both my mum and my sister when he died.

Yes thrown under the bus. Deprioritised. Access to basic support removed and their mental health disregarded because hey, covid.

exomoon · 25/04/2024 14:43

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 14:41

Omicron is much less severe and much more transmissible than the other variants. It very quickly overtook the other variants meaning more people could get covid without getting seriously ill.

Combined with vaccines and increased immunity from previous infections it changed covid to the more minor, run of the mill illness it is today. Most covid infections now are of an Omicron variant.

Thanks, I didn’t know that. By the time Omicron arrived I’d had Covid twice and the vaccine, so had become quite blasé.

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 14:43

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 14:42

Yes thrown under the bus. Deprioritised. Access to basic support removed and their mental health disregarded because hey, covid.

That was true of every group with every imaginable need. Those decisions were taken for a reason, and the reason wasn't "let's throw pregnant women under the bus".

Tattletwat · 25/04/2024 14:45

Jumpingthruhoops · 25/04/2024 14:17

100% this!

I didn't do any of the above because I knew at the time it was a crock of shit.

The things that were said to me as a result - from supposedly 'caring' individuals in real life and on social media - gave me first hand experience of how truly vile a person could be towards another human being.

Those same people now just want to 'forget any animosity and move on'...

Not. A. Chance!

It's not a case of holding a grudge, it's a case of 'I saw who you were and I can't unsee it!'

Absolutely we saw how easy it was to make people inform on others, how to turn on others.
Nope I dont forgive or forget I have the true nature of a lot of people now.

JustEatTheOneInTheBallPit · 25/04/2024 14:46

The mawkishness was intense. Especially the way everyone kept comparing it to war and singing "we'll meet again". In a way, I was glad to be locked away from all the nutters.

Rosebel · 25/04/2024 14:46

I do cringe a bit. I remember posting on here asking if I'd be okay to drive 16 miles to my parents as they had my DDs baby clothes and equipment that I needed for DS.
What was I thinking? I had to pick it up anyway! We didn't do the clap (mainly because the neighbours insisted on banging pans waking DS up every time), didn't quarantine shopping or post, shopped for things that were probably non essential but we did observe social distancing although bubbled with my parents ASAP. We did ignore the Christmas rule though and met up with the family for 3 days.
It was a scary time though. Has screwed up so many kids education and health.

ShinyEspeon · 25/04/2024 14:48

notacooldad · 25/04/2024 14:29

I don't think anyone now would agree that was a necessary action, but I still don't agree with the people who feel the need to sneer all over threads that they wouldn't haven't dreamed of anything so ridiculous as "following the rules" or "being scared"
I would say some rules were important to try to reduce the number of deaths or at least slow the death rate down so resources could cope.

However there was a lot of badly thought out rules that were just stupid. One I mentioned earlier was about 6 lads being able to sit in a pub garden ordering pint after pint but a couple couldn't have an alcoholic drink with their meal in the same restaurant/pub and had to make do with lemonade or similar With their steak dinner.
Dead right I'm sneering at rules like this.

Why sneer at the people who followed them, trying to do the right thing, rather than the people who made them in the first place?

WoshPank · 25/04/2024 14:49

CelesteCunningham · 25/04/2024 14:43

That was true of every group with every imaginable need. Those decisions were taken for a reason, and the reason wasn't "let's throw pregnant women under the bus".

It absolutely was not true of every group, and that fundamentally misunderstands the nature of the situation.

We (society, led by government) made a choice about who to prioritise. So for example we chose to take action that increased the risk to those living with abusers. We chose to take action that increased the risk to people who needed provision of regular HV appointments. We did these things because the idea was that it was the least worst option. That the damage to these groups was justified by the benefits to those most vulnerable to covid.

What you are doing here is saying you think that was the right choice, that it caused the least damage. It might've. Can't rule it out. You're entitled to take a punt on that, but it's a different point.

Hateam · 25/04/2024 14:51

Not been on Mumsnet long but it seems some people take smugness to a whole new level.

GoodHeavens99 · 25/04/2024 14:54

PurpleChrayn · 25/04/2024 13:09

The clapping and pan-bashing were a new nadir for British culture.

I was always in the shower at 8pm, so i missed all the clapping and whatnot.

People tell me that i didn't really miss anything!

PersonIrresponsible · 25/04/2024 14:54

I always thought it was hyperbole. I sodded off to the American Wilderness, walking from Mexico to Canada, where I didn't see people for days at a time (did a lot of walking though) and was called all sorts of names on social media for not "staying at home".

The most bizarre thing was reading the news every ten days or so when I came to get resupplies and thinking "I really don't get it".

Still don't!

No one bashed pans in America though. Suppose that's the lack of NHS!

notacooldad · 25/04/2024 14:55

@ShinyEspeon Why sneer at the people who followed them, trying to do the right thing, rather than the people who made them in the first place?

I'm not sneering at the people trying to do the right thing, after all they had no choice, the restaurant staff was unable to serve them. The point I was making was the madness of it all.
I said a lot of rules were badly thought out. Rules like this made no sense what so ever

Jasmin1971 · 25/04/2024 14:58

I feel guilty about this because so many people lost the lives, the lives of loved one's.

But, I absolutely loved lockdown, the clean air, the refocusing on what really matters. And, as a massive introvert, not feeling guilty about not socialising. That spring was gorgeous.

But like I said I feel bad for feeling this way.

LilacFatball · 25/04/2024 14:58

CoatRack · 25/04/2024 13:15

You have no evidence of that whatsoever.

What do mean by no evidence whatsoever? There's plenty of evidence that lockdown saved lives. If anything, the UK delaying the first lockdown cost lives. What I can't find is any reputable studies that claim they didn't.

Jumpingthruhoops · 25/04/2024 14:59

VeryQuaintIrene · 25/04/2024 13:24

Hindsight is a beautiful thing. It was an unprecedented situation and people were very scared.

As others have said, for many of us, it wasn't hindsight though. We knew at the time it was all nonsense - but others not only REFUSED to hear it, they were actually very nasty towards those who said exactly that at the time. That won't be forgotten.

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