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Car accident.. who is at fault here?

208 replies

Greenleafants · 24/04/2024 13:53

I am so stressed so bare with me. Going down the A1 but it’s a single carriageway and turning right into a little side road because I live there. I stop and start Indicating right as there is approaching traffic on other side of the road. I can see a white van approaching my rear at high speed but I still don’t want to turn as there is traffic coming very quickly on other side of road. Then I see a gap but I am really stressed at this point and I stall my car like an absolute fool. So embarrassed. Crash. He goes into the back of me and he was absolutely raging. His van is damaged worse than my car, I have some damage to my bumper but managed to drive home.. I’ll be found at fault for, won't I?

OP posts:
WarshipRocinante · 26/04/2024 08:46

Clafoutie · 26/04/2024 04:18

On using the horn. In a case like this, with oncoming traffic, wouldn’t using the horn to alert someone behind you be potentially alarming/confusing to that oncoming traffic? Sometimes using the horn inappropriately can actually create a danger.

The point of a horn is to alert. If an oncoming driver suddenly panics and causes an accidents or freaks out then they’re just a shit driver. You don’t hear a horn and start swerving all over the road. If I see a van driver coming up behind me with his head facing down because he is on his bloody phone then I’m not going to just sit there and I won’t always have time to take off and get up to speed, so I sound my horn to make them bloody look.

I had a van come through my garden wall and stop before hitting my house because he hit the tree in my front garden, all because he wasn’t looking, my neighbour was waiting to turn and he had to swerve to avoid, manage to somehow avoid the oncoming traffic by getting through a tiny gap as he was going so fast but went right into my garden. So yeah… if one of them is coming up on their phone and not looking, I will sound my horn.

Just to add - it’s a wee country road with Jo pavements and a handful of houses, which is why the road is used as a rat run by shit drivers because they just don’t expect anyone to be waiting to turn off, despite coming towards to few houses on the road. So they come round the wee bend at speed with no time to stop if they’re not paying attention once they round the bend.

WarshipRocinante · 26/04/2024 08:49

Nothingandnobody · 26/04/2024 07:25

Really… do you need some help understanding?
Wow could you be any more condescending. I've been driving for about 25 years thanks.

Yet you don’t understand that being stationary means stalling makes no real difference, no matter the road you are on. You’re giving the OP total nonsense advice.

WarshipRocinante · 26/04/2024 08:50

BarbarasRhabarberBar · 26/04/2024 08:40

The only time this will help is if the driver is on their phone/not looking at the road at all.

If a driver looking square at you from behind can't see you or judge the stopping time a horn will do nothing but confuse everyone around you.

I literally said in the post you quoted that the issue is van drivers using this road as a rat run whilst playing on their phones. So they’re not looking.

pollymere · 26/04/2024 09:14

It's definitely his fault. If you ever get in a situation like this take pics. I had a guy say I'd scraped his car in a car park but I took photos showing no damage to my car and he ended up losing the case.

You were turning right. Irrespective of stalling, you are allowed to make the turn when you feel comfortable and able to do so. Therefore he should have slowed down to avoid going into the back of you.

My DH had someone do this to him at a roundabout as they'd assumed he'd move off. He had stopped because he realised it wasn't actually safe to do so. The car who went into the back of him was found to be completely at fault.

Nothingandnobody · 26/04/2024 12:58

WarshipRocinante · 26/04/2024 08:49

Yet you don’t understand that being stationary means stalling makes no real difference, no matter the road you are on. You’re giving the OP total nonsense advice.

I gave an opinion.

eastegg · 26/04/2024 13:14

ImNotAPanda · 24/04/2024 14:40

It’s also a well known scam for people with already damaged cars. They are in front of you at a roundabout and it’s clear so you think they’ll move and then They stop and you go into the back of them but it’s technically your fault

A scam which I suspect virtually never works. It relies on the following car driving badly/not paying attention like the man in the OP. It’s also likely, if it causes a collision at all, to be a very low speed one which it would be difficult to pass off as having caused pre-existing damage. I don’t think we need to be unduly worried about people in the OP’s position being scammers.

eastegg · 26/04/2024 13:23

Teledeluxe · 25/04/2024 20:39

Don’t mention stalling as it’s irrelevant and might encourage the van’s insurer to find an excuse to blame you.

Don’t agree with not mentioning it. It’s not irrelevant. It helps explain why the man made the error he did. Which was an error, making him liable not OP. But it’s not irrelevant like ‘there were daffodils growing at the side of the road’ would be, and should not be deliberately hidden.

Jaxhog · 25/05/2024 13:38

Something similar happened to me not long after I passed my test. Only difference was that it was a roundabout. I stalled and the car behind the car behind me smashed into us. Insurance companies dealt with it and my car was repaired at his ultimate cost.

Don't worry, from what you've described, you were not at fault. He was a dick..

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