Car accident.. who is at fault here?

[Greenleafants]

I am so stressed so bare with me. Going down the A1 but it’s a single carriageway and turning right into a little side road because I live there. I stop and start Indicating right as there is approaching traffic on other side of the road. I can see a white van approaching my rear at high speed but I still don’t want to turn as there is traffic coming very quickly on other side of road. Then I see a gap but I am really stressed at this point and I stall my car like an absolute fool. So embarrassed. Crash. He goes into the back of me and he was absolutely raging. His van is damaged worse than my car, I have some damage to my bumper but managed to drive home.. I’ll be found at fault for, won't I?

nope. In the Uk, if someone hits a stationary car that they can see its ALWAYS their fault

p.s. have you reported to the police - he may already have form for this and police need to be told of road accidents and also for your insurance. He may already have a lot of points on his license and/or no tax or insurance (check on DVLA website with the reg) - hence the reaction you go.

He drove into you.

How can that ever be your fault?!

Even from stationary at a junction or traffic lights if you drive into someone it's your fault - you don't drive until the person in front of you has moved and you keep a safe distance.

I got beeped the other day by a driver who was angry because I turned right into a driveway that happened to be located just a few yards after the junction where we both pulled out onto the main road - he was behind me. Apparently my perfectly legal manoevre inconvenienced him by a fraction of a second ....🙄Stand your ground OP - there are far too many of these impatient tossers on the road these days.

Bullshit. OP was stationary and essentially he just chose to drive into the back of her. Sounds like he had plenty of time to stop

Stalling isn't the issue, not applying the brakes is the issue. If a pile up had been caused it would be because he actively didn't brake, and the cars behind him also didn't brake.

OP could have not moved off for any reason, her car breaks down, the exits not clear, she stalls, a child or animal looks like they might run into the road etc etc.

His fault 100% . Don’t stress , no way he can remove liability from that . Hope you are ok

It doesn't matter that you only passed your test recently. As an experienced driver, he should be driving defensively and paying attention to his surroundings. I remember a few weeks after I passed, I didn't quite manage to get my car into gear on the first try as I hadn't gone from 4th to 5th more than a couple of times in that car - it was very different to the car I learnt in. I was on a road where I had priority and it was clearly marked. A white van aggressively honked me, even though he was expected to give way, just because he was speeding and didn't want to slow down. I managed to accelerate quick enough to avoid a collision, but after that I did invest in a dashcam, having seem how much of a dick some people can be once they're behind the wheel.

It was his fault, he crashed into the back of you. He should have left enough room for situations such as you stalling.

It was definitely his fault, so don't worry. Make sure you report this fully to your insurance company, especially the fact that he demanded a photo of your driving licence.
If you ever have another car accident do not be bullied into this, just say you haven't got it on you.

What an absolute arsehole. Him and the PP saying you shouldn't have stalled!

Can't believe he was raging at YOU when he basically drove into a stationary car. Knobhead.

"He expected me to move off and I stalled. He said I shouldn’t be on the main roads. I passed my test in January so I’m a new driver"

Dick. Head.

(Him)

You are not in the wrong.
Hope you're ok

Because stalling is a choice and OP should only do it on minor roads!???

No, the police don't need to be informed of RTCs if there's no injury and details are exchanged.

I'm an arsehole for having a different opinion to you?

Always the fault of the person who drives into the back of the other car. He should have been driving at a speed where he was able to stop end of story. Typical aggressive response from someone who was driving like a knob. Hope you are okay!

Maybe arsehole is too strong a word. But your comment was idiotic. Stalling on a busy road compared to a not busy road makes no difference. YOU’RE ALREADY STATIONARY AND YOU HAVEN’T MOVED.

If cars go into the back of you it is because they ignored a stationary vehicle waiting to turn. It has absolutely nothing to do with the stalling. You don’t stall at speed which would cause a pile up out of nowhere. You stall from stationary and anyone coming up being sees a stationary car and needs to stop. If they don’t, then they’re idiots and dangerous drivers. It had nothing to do with her stalling.

You do not make any decisions on the road based on what the person ahead should or might do by the time you reach them. You make decisions on what they were actually doing. If they’re stationary, you start slowing to a stop and only take off again once they have moved out of that particularly area of space time which you need to drive through.

She prob has one now, but this was circa 2005 so not a lot of people had them back then. I have one now and it has caught a jeep crash into my parked car - but tbf I didn't need it the guy knocked around and found me, good to have though if he hadn't been so honest.

I'm not sure idiotic is much better than arsehole. Oh course it makes a difference. Try stalling on a motorway and you'd soon find out.

Rear ended you so likely his fault.

However, and this is something lots of people don't understand, it's not up to you, or the other driver to admit to fault, that's something your respective insurance companies will sort out between themselves. Their decision might not be what you agree with, but it's not your decision (or the other driver's) to make.

Rear end collisions are almost always the "fault" of the driver who hits the rear of the other car. They should have been paying attention and be prepared to respond to hazards.

If I’m stationary on a motorway then it’s because you’re nose to tail in traffic, everyone slow moving. Anyone who is going to hit you if you stall will also hit you if you don’t, because you’re stationary or slow moving. Stalling makes no difference.

Do you actually drive? Do you know what stalling is? Because what you’re saying is absolute nonsense and is idiotic.

You don’t stall at speed. You don’t stall going at 70 with cars going 70 behind you. You stall when you’re stationary and any cars approaching should drive as if they are approaching a stationary car… because they are. If they hit you then it’s because of them not slowing or not stopping. It doesn’t matter if you’ve stalled; you’re already stationary. Cars behind need to approach assuming you won’t move rather than hoping you will so continuing to plow on at speed.

Really… do you need some help understanding?

How do you stall on a motorway unless the traffic has stopped?
Do you think stalling means stopping?

Also.....motorways don't have side roads.
The single carriage way A1 does.....people will need to turn.
Some vehicles will have a lower speed limit or just a lower speed.
There will even be cyclists!

Agree the fact you stalled is irrelevant. You were already stationery.

Definitely his fault. He will just be using intimidation tactic. Similar thing happened to me and he tried to blame me by saying I look like a young driver so it must have been me at fault. Insurance deemed him to be at fault so I wouldn’t worry

You need to be prepared for people stalling when moving off, blaming it on the driver stalling is pointless.