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To wonder what is dangerous about my child’s lunch

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NameChangeAK · 22/04/2024 20:20

I received a message from school today saying my child’s lunch contained a prohibited item and to please review the policy “as there are children with severe allergies and it’s dangerous not to comply”

I don’t usually provide packed lunches - DC has school meals, but they did like todays meal options.

Ive responded and asked what the item was but waiting for a response, but I’m confused - it’s clearly a nut free school but I can’t see anything else anywhere about other banned foods

the packed lunch contained:

  • ham sandwich (with butter) on brown bread
  • apple
  • frube (strawberry flavour)
  • carton of own brand apple juice
  • Pepperami
  • babybel

any ideas what could be the problem or Aibu to think they’ve mistaken the ham as peanut butter or something ridiculous?

OP posts:
AnImaginaryCat · 23/04/2024 07:40

The only thing I could pick out from that is the Pepperami. Just because it has a strong smell, which might cause a link to airborne allergic reactions.

But it's weird as it's not listed as a banned item on the school's list.

The dairy items are fine - not airborne but potentially problematic if the child eating it doesn't wash their hands then touches the skin of the child with an dairy allergy.

Actually that makes me think, maybe the Frube. Danger being it's squinty tube of an allergen. (Though again if the school doesn't want them in the school, they need to list them.)

TheBunyip · 23/04/2024 07:41

Surely the verboten item is the one still in the lunchbox when she came home?

KickHimInTheCrotch · 23/04/2024 07:41

RosesAndHellebores · 23/04/2024 07:33

Generic letter because they disapproved of what was in the lunchbox.

Ham - processed
Babybel -processed
Frube - processed
Peppermint- processed
Apple Juice - the small cartons are rarely 100% pressed/squeezed

In the kindest possible way @Hopper123 that was a lunchbox jammed with UPFs.

Better choices would have been:
Chicken, tuna or egg sandwich
Fresh fruit - endless choices and combinations
2/3 cubes of gruyere
Small container with natural Greek Yoghurt and a drizzle of honey
Water instead of juice

Whilst I broadly agree that feeding kids ultra processed foods isn't great I'm not sure many kids would want to unpack an egg sandwich and 3 cubes of gruyere in the lunch hall. I got the piss ripped out of me mercilessly in the 1980s for taking a homemade mini quiche in my lunchbox.

PuttingDownRoots · 23/04/2024 07:42

My DD had a child with a severe allergy in her class from reception. They were all taught NEVER to share their food for that reason. As it was milk, they even needed to give rhe other children their daily cup of milk in the same classroom.

CelesteCunningham · 23/04/2024 07:42

RosesAndHellebores · 23/04/2024 07:33

Generic letter because they disapproved of what was in the lunchbox.

Ham - processed
Babybel -processed
Frube - processed
Peppermint- processed
Apple Juice - the small cartons are rarely 100% pressed/squeezed

In the kindest possible way @Hopper123 that was a lunchbox jammed with UPFs.

Better choices would have been:
Chicken, tuna or egg sandwich
Fresh fruit - endless choices and combinations
2/3 cubes of gruyere
Small container with natural Greek Yoghurt and a drizzle of honey
Water instead of juice

She didn't ask your opinion.

2024istheyearforme · 23/04/2024 07:43

Please tell us when you know!!! I'm intrigued! That lunchbox is a good lunchbox...

DeliberatelyDefiant · 23/04/2024 07:44

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 23/04/2024 07:35

Well we grew up with no seatbelts, my Dad smoking as he read us bedtime stories and priests being trusted to be alone with children. Times change.

And times change again. Blanket bans are no longer the recommended method, the child with the allergies has to learn how to manage their allergy in school like they will have to outside of school.

Plus there are so many now it isn't possible to make a lunchbox without an allergen. My DD can't have celery, kiwi, strawberry or dairy, she knows to wash her hands, only eat her own food and where her epi pens are, and she is 6.

meemawww · 23/04/2024 07:46

This is ridiculous. If an allergy is so severe they have to ban certain foods speaking in fucking riddles is not the way to go about it

RosesAndHellebores · 23/04/2024 07:47

@KickHimInTheCrotch wasn't a problem when my dc were at school in the noughties. I would imagine that lunches as I 've described are par for the course nowadays and not "out there" at all.

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 23/04/2024 07:49

DeliberatelyDefiant · 23/04/2024 07:44

And times change again. Blanket bans are no longer the recommended method, the child with the allergies has to learn how to manage their allergy in school like they will have to outside of school.

Plus there are so many now it isn't possible to make a lunchbox without an allergen. My DD can't have celery, kiwi, strawberry or dairy, she knows to wash her hands, only eat her own food and where her epi pens are, and she is 6.

That must be very scary for you. I hope she is ok. Are they airborne allergies? How does she manage with that if so?

CelesteCunningham · 23/04/2024 07:50

Gettingonmygoat · 23/04/2024 07:38

What on earth are children supposed to eat at school ? Do the parents of a child that has an allergy to strawberries never take them near a shop or market, do these children only go between home and school, no trips to the park because a child there may have had strawberries as a snack and travelling on public transport of any kind ever?
My sister had a severe allergy to tomatoes when she was a child 70 years ago, the world didn't change for her and she knew to to touch them.

I'm in a few allergy groups on FB and did once see someone pure raging at a man feeding peanuts to the squirrels in the park.

In fairness, it's not easy to send your child out into the world knowing the wrong food could kill them. But I do prefer to assume the allergen is everywhere and take steps to avoid rather than to expect an allergen free world.

Gazelda · 23/04/2024 07:50

I know someone with a severe strawberry allergy. I suspect it's the frube

Hankunamatata · 23/04/2024 08:04

There a child in dc school with a severe allergy to oranges so no oranges or products from oranges

RedToothBrush · 23/04/2024 08:15

The misapprehension that nut and peanut allergies are more serious than others makes it very difficult for those with anaphylaxis to other allergens to be taken seriously so it's something that's always worth clarifying.

This.

I have been unimpressed with school and cubs who know DS has a strawberry allergy who have had tasks involving food with strawberry in.

DS thankfully had the guts to say he couldn't do it.

Even then he's had a reaction because they did fucking clear it up properly.

I don't expect them to ban strawberries. I do expect awareness and to use substitutes if it's part of a task.

Oneofthesurvivors · 23/04/2024 08:17

Just bloody ask them. How hard is it?

BirtyDird · 23/04/2024 08:18

Icehockeyflowers · 23/04/2024 01:45

My kid's primary school only allows water.
Juices and drinks are confiscated and returned at home time along with any cakes, biscuits, bars etc.

I wouldn't want my child at your school, thankfully ours don't do this. They specify water during class times, but cordial is fine at lunch. We have agreement that my child can have milk or orange cordial as otherwise he refuses to drink. He has sensory needs so eating and drinking is a big thing, he takes in extra snacks too.

School have agreed I can send him in with milk or squash, but to be fair to others I use a dark cup so nobody else can see what is inside. Not every child will just drink water, believe me i have tried many many times.

ApolloandDaphne · 23/04/2024 08:19

Oneofthesurvivors · 23/04/2024 08:17

Just bloody ask them. How hard is it?

If you read the OP you will see she has asked them and is waiting for a response.

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/04/2024 08:19

BringMeSunshineAllDayLong · 23/04/2024 07:32

Not sure where that LOL came in from!

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Headinthesand21 · 23/04/2024 08:19

RosesAndHellebores · 23/04/2024 07:33

Generic letter because they disapproved of what was in the lunchbox.

Ham - processed
Babybel -processed
Frube - processed
Peppermint- processed
Apple Juice - the small cartons are rarely 100% pressed/squeezed

In the kindest possible way @Hopper123 that was a lunchbox jammed with UPFs.

Better choices would have been:
Chicken, tuna or egg sandwich
Fresh fruit - endless choices and combinations
2/3 cubes of gruyere
Small container with natural Greek Yoghurt and a drizzle of honey
Water instead of juice

🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Peonies12 · 23/04/2024 08:20

You’ll have to ask - but the amount of ultra processed food, salt and sugar in that lunch is appalling.

NameChangeAK · 23/04/2024 08:21

They have responded to say it was not a mistaken message. It was indeed the frube. There is a child with a severe dairy allergy. Whilst there is not a blanket ban on all dairy, there is a risk this could squirt/splatter so more risky. They have informed ‘many parents’ in the past but there has not been a full school communication.

I wish they had just explained that in their original message!

OP posts:
Gettingonmygoat · 23/04/2024 08:22

Emotionalsupportviper · 23/04/2024 07:06

The apple juice.

Gateway beverage to Strongbow Cider.

😂Best reply on the thread.

user1492757084 · 23/04/2024 08:23

I would agree the apple juice is possibly not conforming to plain water or milk.
Or perhaps the Pepporami - is it processed meat with additives that some kids are allergic to?

I'm so interested to find the answer to this, Op!

PuttingDownRoots · 23/04/2024 08:25

The frube thing makes sense... my DD has come home with yoghurt on her uniform from a friends frube!

Needanewname42 · 23/04/2024 08:26

RedToothBrush · 23/04/2024 08:15

The misapprehension that nut and peanut allergies are more serious than others makes it very difficult for those with anaphylaxis to other allergens to be taken seriously so it's something that's always worth clarifying.

This.

I have been unimpressed with school and cubs who know DS has a strawberry allergy who have had tasks involving food with strawberry in.

DS thankfully had the guts to say he couldn't do it.

Even then he's had a reaction because they did fucking clear it up properly.

I don't expect them to ban strawberries. I do expect awareness and to use substitutes if it's part of a task.

I'd expect them not to include strawberries if it is a task like making fruit salad or something that's just daft and asking for trouble.

I also think allergies weren't taken seriously in the past kids saying they were allergic when really they just didn't like certain things.

But one that gets me is you say someone has a wheat allergy people assume coeliac type intolerance, not an actual allergy that could be life threatening.