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To wonder what is dangerous about my child’s lunch

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NameChangeAK · 22/04/2024 20:20

I received a message from school today saying my child’s lunch contained a prohibited item and to please review the policy “as there are children with severe allergies and it’s dangerous not to comply”

I don’t usually provide packed lunches - DC has school meals, but they did like todays meal options.

Ive responded and asked what the item was but waiting for a response, but I’m confused - it’s clearly a nut free school but I can’t see anything else anywhere about other banned foods

the packed lunch contained:

  • ham sandwich (with butter) on brown bread
  • apple
  • frube (strawberry flavour)
  • carton of own brand apple juice
  • Pepperami
  • babybel

any ideas what could be the problem or Aibu to think they’ve mistaken the ham as peanut butter or something ridiculous?

OP posts:
SleepingStandingUp · 22/04/2024 23:43

augustusglupe · 22/04/2024 23:28

God how times have changed. It’s ridiculous!

Ridiculous to ask kids not to bring in foods other people are massively allergic to?

walnutcoffeecake · 22/04/2024 23:47

We will soon send kids to school with just water and dry bread.
Victorian time here we come.

teabooks · 22/04/2024 23:56

Im so pleased my kids dont go to school anymore their adults now thank god.
I would not cope or keep up with the demands of a school or anything related.
As poster said above dry bread and water cheese if your lucky jam if its xmass.
Worlds gone mad.

Sealover123 · 23/04/2024 00:02

I think it's the Pepperami, maybe mustard or sulphites which are 2 of the 14 specific allergens on the official lists.

augustusglupe · 23/04/2024 01:02

SleepingStandingUp · 22/04/2024 23:43

Ridiculous to ask kids not to bring in foods other people are massively allergic to?

I just said how times have changed. Well they have.

My DD made it through the whole of her school life
1993 - 2005, without any mention of what her or anyone else was eating.
I fed lots of her friends along the way and there were endless parties.
The only thing I remember was my DD hating egg sandwiches and one of her friends puzzled by the addition of some parsley 😄

I honestly don’t remember anyone having an allergy to food or choking on a pepperami.
But like I said, times have obviously changed 🤷🏻‍♀️

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 23/04/2024 01:19

NameChangeAK · 22/04/2024 20:20

I received a message from school today saying my child’s lunch contained a prohibited item and to please review the policy “as there are children with severe allergies and it’s dangerous not to comply”

I don’t usually provide packed lunches - DC has school meals, but they did like todays meal options.

Ive responded and asked what the item was but waiting for a response, but I’m confused - it’s clearly a nut free school but I can’t see anything else anywhere about other banned foods

the packed lunch contained:

  • ham sandwich (with butter) on brown bread
  • apple
  • frube (strawberry flavour)
  • carton of own brand apple juice
  • Pepperami
  • babybel

any ideas what could be the problem or Aibu to think they’ve mistaken the ham as peanut butter or something ridiculous?

What bread was it? Plain brown bread or brown seeded bread/granary type?
Obviously I'm not sure what their reasoning is but sometimes if there's an allergy nut wise seeds can be caught up in that as it's also a known allergen.
Eg my workplace bans nuts and seeds.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 23/04/2024 01:21

NameChangeAK · 22/04/2024 20:45

The bread was normal wholemeal, no seeds…

Ah ok, just seen this - ignore my post then 🙂
Hopefully they respond soon

Kandalama · 23/04/2024 01:25

WYorkshireRose · 22/04/2024 20:26

In our class it would be the babybel/frube, as there are two severe dairy allergies in DS's class. But if you can't remember being told something specific like that and it isn't written in the general policy then you'll just have to wait for the school to respond.

What does everyone do about butter in a sandwich.

SuffolkUnicorn · 23/04/2024 01:25

Probably the ham 🙄

Kandalama · 23/04/2024 01:29

augustusglupe · 23/04/2024 01:02

I just said how times have changed. Well they have.

My DD made it through the whole of her school life
1993 - 2005, without any mention of what her or anyone else was eating.
I fed lots of her friends along the way and there were endless parties.
The only thing I remember was my DD hating egg sandwiches and one of her friends puzzled by the addition of some parsley 😄

I honestly don’t remember anyone having an allergy to food or choking on a pepperami.
But like I said, times have obviously changed 🤷🏻‍♀️

Likewise no one of my generation had an allergy.
No idea what I would have eaten as a vegetarian on packed lunches in those days.

A leading theory is that we are too hygienic these days and parents and kids are simply not exposed to as many germs.

Kandalama · 23/04/2024 01:30

SuffolkUnicorn · 23/04/2024 01:25

Probably the ham 🙄

Do people have an allergy to ham?

JanglingJack · 23/04/2024 01:30

Stigglet · 22/04/2024 23:07

Probably the frube. It has more sugar than a chocolate biscuit. Flavoured yogurt is very unhealthy.

Not as unhealthy as a pepperami 😂

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 01:31

Oh for goodness sakes a child eating dairy in the same room as someone with a dairy allergy is not dangerous! As long as the allergic child doesn't consume any. It's not like a nut allergy 🙄
OP there's no nuts in your DC's lunch so just ignore it. Sounds like a dozy staff member being a bit thick and conflating airborne nut allergies with a dairy allergy that only applies when consumed..

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 01:33

@augustusglupe So you're saying dangerous allergies didn't exist 'in your day?' I can assure they bloody well did! Only they didn't have a fecking clue what was wrong with the child and as a result, the child was often dead before they made it to school age - result? Schools were filled with children without any dangerous allergies

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 23/04/2024 01:35

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 01:31

Oh for goodness sakes a child eating dairy in the same room as someone with a dairy allergy is not dangerous! As long as the allergic child doesn't consume any. It's not like a nut allergy 🙄
OP there's no nuts in your DC's lunch so just ignore it. Sounds like a dozy staff member being a bit thick and conflating airborne nut allergies with a dairy allergy that only applies when consumed..

Depends on the severity - I definitely react to airborne milk powder.

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 01:36

@GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight Airborne milk powder?! Well that must be awful. However I think you'll be just fine as I've yet to see any milk powder which was airborne..

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 23/04/2024 01:39

Kandalama · 23/04/2024 01:29

Likewise no one of my generation had an allergy.
No idea what I would have eaten as a vegetarian on packed lunches in those days.

A leading theory is that we are too hygienic these days and parents and kids are simply not exposed to as many germs.

No, noone that you knew had allergies.
Of course they existed!
I had allergies in the 80s as a child, it just took ages to find out what was wrong with me though.

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 23/04/2024 01:42

EnglishBluebell · 23/04/2024 01:36

@GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight Airborne milk powder?! Well that must be awful. However I think you'll be just fine as I've yet to see any milk powder which was airborne..

Hot chocolate powder, just off the top of my head?
Also if there's a large amount of chocolate around which I have been around in the past then yes I do I react even if I'm not eating it.

Icehockeyflowers · 23/04/2024 01:45

BirtyDird · 22/04/2024 23:11

Surely they can't ban a juice carton for lunch as unhealthy. I understand most schools request water only during lessons/breaks, but juice is normally allowed at lunch time. I wouldn't have thought it would be that, if it was I'd ignoring that anyway.

Edited

My kid's primary school only allows water.
Juices and drinks are confiscated and returned at home time along with any cakes, biscuits, bars etc.

Isittimeformynapyet · 23/04/2024 01:47

Needmorelego · 22/04/2024 20:24

Possibly the cheese or the yoghurt ?
Best thing is to ask them. Something may have changed recently and they've either not told parents or you missed the message.
(Edit: I see you have asked - hopefully they will reply asap. If they don't - ask again!)

Edited

I'm curious: Did you respond before you'd even finished reading the OP?

Kandalama · 23/04/2024 01:55

GoodAfternoonGoodEveningAndGoodnight · 23/04/2024 01:39

No, noone that you knew had allergies.
Of course they existed!
I had allergies in the 80s as a child, it just took ages to find out what was wrong with me though.

Just realised what I said there.😳
Exactly.
No one that I knew!….

DrJoanAllenby · 23/04/2024 02:07

augustusglupe · 22/04/2024 23:28

God how times have changed. It’s ridiculous!

I'm glad mine went through school without these strict rules as I would have kicked up a huge fuss.

If anyone has an allergy that severe they should be segregated at lunch and break times or the parent takes the out of school
At lunch time so that the rest of the pupils, the majority can eat normally.

Fraaahnces · 23/04/2024 02:24

Jeeze, you would have been arrested for child cruelty/neglect if you fed your kids the kinds of lunches we had at school. It was hard enough when my kids were little, but this is insane. You need a crystal ball!

Aria999 · 23/04/2024 02:34

What is a frube?

goldenretrievermum5 · 23/04/2024 02:36

Stigglet · 22/04/2024 23:07

Probably the frube. It has more sugar than a chocolate biscuit. Flavoured yogurt is very unhealthy.

And what’s wrong with a chocolate biscuit exactly? Everything in moderation. An apple has twice the amount of sugar as a Frube but we’re not banning those 🤦‍♀️

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