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To wonder what is dangerous about my child’s lunch

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NameChangeAK · 22/04/2024 20:20

I received a message from school today saying my child’s lunch contained a prohibited item and to please review the policy “as there are children with severe allergies and it’s dangerous not to comply”

I don’t usually provide packed lunches - DC has school meals, but they did like todays meal options.

Ive responded and asked what the item was but waiting for a response, but I’m confused - it’s clearly a nut free school but I can’t see anything else anywhere about other banned foods

the packed lunch contained:

  • ham sandwich (with butter) on brown bread
  • apple
  • frube (strawberry flavour)
  • carton of own brand apple juice
  • Pepperami
  • babybel

any ideas what could be the problem or Aibu to think they’ve mistaken the ham as peanut butter or something ridiculous?

OP posts:
goldenretrievermum5 · 23/04/2024 15:20

Cherie7 · 23/04/2024 06:54

Sounds like a dozy staff member being a bit thick and conflating airborne nut allergies with a dairy allergy that only applies when consumed..

You do realise kids, even much older ones, treat their packed lunches as a tasting/sharing buffet.

Responses like this would make me quite worried if I was a parent of a child with an allergy. Even if someone is intolerant to gluten for example, while it may not be life threatening it can still cause a great deal of illness and pain to them when they have violent diarrhoea for instance. We shouldn’t just take peanut allergies very seriously and not so much the others.

Older kids with allergies should have the common sense and knowledge that other children’s lunchboxes aren’t safe for them to be tasting or sharing. I say this as the parent of a teen with anaphylactic reactions. It is unreasonable and simply not realistic to expect the entire world to change their habits in order to protect her.

MississippiAF · 23/04/2024 15:21

Allfur · 23/04/2024 15:00

Yeah I used to get 10 b & h in my lunch box, never did me any harm

My mum wasn’t that lib but there was an ice cream van who came by at lunch and sold single fags

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 23/04/2024 15:23

MariaVT65 · 23/04/2024 15:01

The boys at my school legit had shandy in their lunchboxes that they would share with me. I grew up in a rough area though!

My dad gave me Shandy in a plastic cup once with my packed lunch. It exploded on the way to school and I smelt like a pub all day. No teachers took any notice though and the one I did tell just laughed. Such was life in the 70's.

godmum56 · 23/04/2024 15:25

PurpleCacao · 23/04/2024 14:48

From my understanding:

”Natural flavouring” on an ingredient list usually refers to a lab-created ingredient. They call it “natural flavouring” to make you think oh, it’s probably just grape juice or honey. But the “natural flavouring” wording is dishonest. After all, if it was just honey or fruit juice, it would state that instead. “Natural flavouring” is covering up the fact they are industrially-produced extracts and concentrates.

Seed oils on an ingredients list (such as “rapeseed oil” listed for frozen fish fingers) are highly unlikely to be in an “unmodified state”, and that’s rather the point. It’s overly processed seed oil, used to cheaply bulk or add flavour on an industrial scale.

Things are phrased on ingredient lists in an obfuscating way, to make it sound healthy or innocuous. Like malted barley extract, makes you think barley = good. It’s just an “extract” after all. But the food industry uses innocuous sounding words to hide things they know the public won’t like. “Malted” = ultra processing to make it sweeter and more palatable.

The point is, any of these things are fairly harmless on their own, or if you just drizzled a bit of oil into your homemade bread or whatever. That’s no issue. But if you’re eating a high-volume of foods with these ultra-palatable and processed additives hiding in them every day, that is what is causing health problems.

And no I don’t mean sneering at nuggets and chips or McDonalds. For myself, it means eating a Pret avocado and egg sandwich, or a granola yoghurt, or pesto pasta, or a vegan burger, or Sainsburys finest haddock fishcakes, and thinking they’re reasonably healthy options, but everything I’ve eaten is chocked full of ultra-processed additives to make them hyper-palatable and make me crave more of it, but the nutritional content isn’t actually that good.

wrong. https://www.ukflavourassociation.org/flavours-faqs.php#:~:text=What%20is%20a%20natural%20flavouring,must%20be%20derived%20from%20lemons.

Frequently asked flavourings questions

Have a question about flavours? See if we've got the answer for you here.

https://www.ukflavourassociation.org/flavours-faqs.php#:~:text=What%20is%20a%20natural%20flavouring,must%20be%20derived%20from%20lemons.

patchworkpal · 23/04/2024 15:26

NameChangeAK · 23/04/2024 08:21

They have responded to say it was not a mistaken message. It was indeed the frube. There is a child with a severe dairy allergy. Whilst there is not a blanket ban on all dairy, there is a risk this could squirt/splatter so more risky. They have informed ‘many parents’ in the past but there has not been a full school communication.

I wish they had just explained that in their original message!

Oh gosh. I never knew

ToxicChristmas · 23/04/2024 15:26

Ooo I loved a shandy as a child!!! Down to the corner shop for a can and a bag (paper bag) of salt and vinegar walkers with (fingers crossed) a real fiver in a blue packet in the bag.

Enzodayz · 23/04/2024 15:27

NameChangeAK · 23/04/2024 08:36

I didn’t ask for opinions on the lunch but thanks anyway - I agree it was full of pre-packed food, because I was choosing DCs lunch option on the school app as we were leaving when we realised there was no option he would like (he’s normally okay with school meals but, unusually 2 of the options were beef which he doesn’t eat due to religious reasons, the third option was ‘veggie noodles’ which sound fine but DC said they were awful last time and he didn’t eat them so I agreed to packed lunch with 2 mins to leave.

hence a quick ham sandwich and grabbing a few packaged things from the fridge. humous had no time to start cooking eggs, chopping veggies and decanting Greek yoghurt/humous from larger tubs, sorry for those who are appalled! In hindsight I could have stuck a whole carrot in!

Hah great reply ! 😂

B1anche · 23/04/2024 15:31

godmum56 · 23/04/2024 15:09

and heaven forfend a squirt!

Reporting this for obscenity!

Allergictoironing · 23/04/2024 15:34

Healthy food is not always more £ than convenience food. Baking potatoes are 4 for 75p. Wholemeal pasta is 500g for 75p. A kilo of rice is £2.50.

And supermarket own brand sliced white is 50p a loaf. But woman can't live on carbs alone.

goldenretrievermum5 · 23/04/2024 15:39

CustardySergeant · 23/04/2024 13:25

CelesteCunningham I'm so puzzled by the last line of your post at 10.07

"DD came home with two top hats, delighted with herself."

She came home with two of these? 😕

How have you never heard of a top hat? 🤔It’s just chocolate in a small cupcake case with a marshmallow and smartie stuck on top. Very popular at birthday parties!

valensiwalensi · 23/04/2024 15:40

user09876543 · 23/04/2024 08:49

I know this won't be a popular view but surely it would be easier and better for everyone if the children with allergies ate in a separate room? I know someone will jump in and say why shouldn't they be allowed to eat with their friends but they would make friends with the other children with allergies and it would be fairer on the rest of the school population. The whole thing is just out of control.

So....you want to isolate children just so little Timmy can eat a fucking FRUBE?

shoppingshamed · 23/04/2024 16:00

godmum56 · 23/04/2024 15:09

and heaven forfend a squirt!

The school could set aside a squirters corner for those with non appropriate application of honey and those who open their frubes with gay abandon

gingercat02 · 23/04/2024 16:06

MyWhoHa · 23/04/2024 10:01

It will be the pepperami, could have someone's eye out

@MyMyWhoHa are you my DH?

Iaskedyouthrice · 23/04/2024 16:07

2/3 cubes of gruyere
Small container with natural Greek Yoghurt and a drizzle of honey

😁

valensiwalensi · 23/04/2024 16:13

Iaskedyouthrice · 23/04/2024 16:07

2/3 cubes of gruyere
Small container with natural Greek Yoghurt and a drizzle of honey

😁

'Fergus, would you like a gooseberry and cinnamon yoghurt?'

When Catherine Tate wanted gooseberry and cinnamon yoghurt 🙋 BBC

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Iaskedyouthrice · 23/04/2024 16:14

I went on a bread research spree for kids school lunches and the best white loaf, with the least amount of shit in, with the fewest calories was the medium Hovis sliced white loaf. You know the one you can get in most corner shops? Shocked me. Sorry just seen loads of comments about bread.

patchworkpal · 23/04/2024 16:17

Iaskedyouthrice · 23/04/2024 16:14

I went on a bread research spree for kids school lunches and the best white loaf, with the least amount of shit in, with the fewest calories was the medium Hovis sliced white loaf. You know the one you can get in most corner shops? Shocked me. Sorry just seen loads of comments about bread.

Thanks that's really handy

Iaskedyouthrice · 23/04/2024 16:17

Amazing @valensiwalensi 👏🤣

AmethystSparkles · 23/04/2024 16:25

@RosesAndHellebores Babybels are not processed…they’re just ordinary Edam.

And hummus is full of refined rapeseed oil (plus it contains sesame seeds). I made it myself once with extra virgin olive oil and it was revolting.

Iaskedyouthrice · 23/04/2024 16:26

You are welcome @patchworkpal I was always worried about all the stodge they were eating so went on a mission. I never had time to worry day to day about what to put in their lunch (Or a huge budget either), so tried making it as healthy and practical as possible Loaf of bread, filler, sorted.

AmethystSparkles · 23/04/2024 16:28

B1anche · 23/04/2024 15:31

Reporting this for obscenity!

🤣

Needmorelego · 23/04/2024 16:33

@AmethystSparkles I wonder if the Babybel wax is ultra processed 🤔
Probably at least one child every year at the average primary school eats the wax 😂

Needanewname42 · 23/04/2024 16:35

Overthebow · 23/04/2024 15:01

Are schools really banning things like dairy and sesame? I'd be pretty annoyed if I was a parent at that school, dairy is one of the man food groups and important for kids diets. Also the expense and time taken to buy food without these things. I can understand the frube issue as they do squirt everywhere, but banning dairy and other allergens completely is going too far.

No they generally don't ban dairy.
This particular school has banned frubes due to the tiny risk of them squirting on a child with allergies.

I going to guess the other have of the reason is kids struggle to open them and kids do make a mess with frubes.

My kids afterschool don't like them or other yougarts either because of the mess and the possibility of them turning / going off in the summer heat especially if they've been out in a park all day.

Iwasafool · 23/04/2024 16:48

Switcher · 23/04/2024 10:22

Off topic but I am pissing myself at "cubes of gruyère". Couldn't just be cheddar, could it!

And obviously not processed, I wonder where you find the cows that produce gruyère rather than milk that gets processed to produce cheese?

patchworkpal · 23/04/2024 16:50

Iaskedyouthrice · 23/04/2024 16:26

You are welcome @patchworkpal I was always worried about all the stodge they were eating so went on a mission. I never had time to worry day to day about what to put in their lunch (Or a huge budget either), so tried making it as healthy and practical as possible Loaf of bread, filler, sorted.

You've genuinely saved me so much time. I really appreciate it