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Aibu to think it’s weird if the male swimming instructor makes a comment about my daughter swimming very prettily?

53 replies

SENMum1985 · 22/04/2024 13:24

AIBU? Is this just okay as off the cuff remark or would other people find this strange?

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Justwant2sit · 22/04/2024 15:41

I’m just wondering if he meant pretty good - and perhaps also neatly - in his mind and then in an mis- mash of thoughts prettily came out . I had similar in an email recently..

Meadowfinch · 22/04/2024 15:43

I'd take that to mean her strokes are symmetrical and she moves cleanly through the water with little splashing. Good for her.

ToxicChristmas · 22/04/2024 15:43

Normal I'd say.
My DD horse rides very elegantly and neatly. I suppose some might say prettily. I get what he means. It doesn't mean he's saying she is attractive!

Luddite26 · 22/04/2024 16:12

Gracefully would have been better.

StephanieSuperpowers · 22/04/2024 16:15

I would think it's a strange enough expression to be a bit perplexed by it.

Maddie212 · 22/04/2024 16:17

BobbyBiscuits · 22/04/2024 15:01

I guess it's because it sounds like he wouldn't have said that about a boy?
Is his first language English? If not I'd say it's probably excusable but I would actually ask if he'd say that about a boy, in a half joking manner, to see what he says.

It's seriously not that deep, jeez. He said 'prettily' to a girl because that's probably a word she'll find complimentary.

A boy probably wouldn't want to be told how swimming is pretty or elegant.

Let's not take this whole sexism thing so far. Boys and girls are different and that's ok

Applescruffle · 22/04/2024 16:19

It's nothing as an isolated incident. "Gracefully" is probably a better word but maybe he is kicking himself and cringing every time he thinks of it. We all say the wrong thing sometimes.
If you're worried, just keep a close eye. You'll soon see if you fears are unfounded or not

Pagwatch · 22/04/2024 16:19

Elegant would probably be a better word but my daughter swam competitively and if someone said she had a pretty freestyle stroke Id know what they meant. I can say that confidently as her breast stroke was absolutely butt ugly.
It’s just neat, effortless, elegant. That sort of thing.

swimmings a great sport for girls - I hope your DD is enjoying it

Hankunamatata · 22/04/2024 16:20

My boys teacher has told them they have beautiful technique or swam beautifully today. They are commenting on the technique the child is displaying.

evilharpy · 22/04/2024 16:20

I've heard 'pretty' used many times in the context of horses (nice gait, neat jumper etc). Maybe a better word could be chosen but I really wouldn't read anything into it.

Pipeskeepleaking · 22/04/2024 16:20

I’d say beautiful but not pretty - and I’d use beautiful for both boys and girls.

Applescruffle · 22/04/2024 16:20

commonsense12 · 22/04/2024 15:05

I guess he's a pedo. Cancel the swimming lessons. Lock him and and throw away the key 🙄

You know, some people are very paranoid and on extra high alert because they themselves were abused.
Sarcasm probably isn't helpful

MrsAvocet · 22/04/2024 16:35

I coach a different sport and probably wouldn't use the word pretty, but I have commented to both and girls that they're elegant, stylish etc. Some athletes, even young ones, do have a natural flair for their sport and look good when they're doing it. It doesn't always mean that they are actually better than someone who lacks that same style but they are often efficient and effective as they're not wasting energy. I know nothing about swimming but I would imagine that it's one of those sports where someone with a neat and stylish technique is likely to be quicker. I wouldn't read anything negative into the comment though there are probably better words than pretty.

Verite1 · 22/04/2024 16:35

My DS swims competitively. He is not as fast as some others but he has a beautiful technique which is often commented on. I do get the point that pretty is a bit gendered, but I would definitely say beautiful for both sexes.

DivisionOfTasks · 22/04/2024 16:37

I would not like this. Language is important. My daughter used to get school reports saying she had a lovely smile. My son would get them at the same age mentioning leadership.

Prettily is not an adjective that should be applied to a sport like swimming. Nope.

IvorTheEngineDriver · 22/04/2024 16:37

Is he Scots? I'm told "pretty" in Scots means "handsome" or "well-formed" and applies to both sexes.

Even if he's not, I'd take it to mean she's swimming with an elegant action. I certainly wouldn't be worried in the slightest.

IvorTheEngineDriver · 22/04/2024 16:41

DivisionOfTasks · 22/04/2024 16:37

I would not like this. Language is important. My daughter used to get school reports saying she had a lovely smile. My son would get them at the same age mentioning leadership.

Prettily is not an adjective that should be applied to a sport like swimming. Nope.

My grandfather used to say of any sporting action that was well done - from football to snooker - that it was "pretty to watch".

You are over-reacting IMO.

Soigneur · 22/04/2024 16:51

He means no splashing and showing economy of movement and effortless efficiency. It's not a word I would use to describe an athlete's style when coaching, but I would use words like 'graceful' or 'elegant'. In cycling someone like Fabian Cancellara would be described as 'elegant' whereas Chris Froome was 'all knees and elbows'.

BogRollBOGOF · 22/04/2024 16:54

I wish more men would swim prettily/ gracefully/ elegantly instead of splashy front crawl and slapping waves across the other lanes of the pool with their forearms.

I would take it as a compliment about a neat, efficient stroke.

makeanddo · 22/04/2024 17:19

Pretty is a poor choice of word, he wouldn't use this for a boy and it's doesn't fit with swimming imo.

She/he has a beautiful stroke/swims effortlessly is better.

So if he was using your DD to demonstrate to the group that had boys and girls he wouldn't say 'look everyone how prettily Arrabella is swimming'.

lateatwork · 22/04/2024 17:26

She needs to have excellent technique. I've never heard of a swimmer described as swimming prettily. I'd find it weird as it doesn't focus on any sort of actionable feedback on her stroke- I wouldnt be sure if it was positive of negative feedback.

Ariela · 22/04/2024 17:27

Is English his first language? Even if he speaks with next to no accent, he may still sometimes pick the wrong word because he's translating from his thoughts, and the meaning may be slightly different/not a direct translation. My friend is Romanian but speaks English really well (and has almost an American accent which hides her Romanian origins - too many films), but sometimes she picks an odd word to say something because that's the translation from the word she'd have used if back home.

Littletreefrog · 22/04/2024 17:31

Ariela · 22/04/2024 17:27

Is English his first language? Even if he speaks with next to no accent, he may still sometimes pick the wrong word because he's translating from his thoughts, and the meaning may be slightly different/not a direct translation. My friend is Romanian but speaks English really well (and has almost an American accent which hides her Romanian origins - too many films), but sometimes she picks an odd word to say something because that's the translation from the word she'd have used if back home.

This is what I was going to say. My friend speaks English as a second language and will use prettily where we might say beautifully. So if a swimming teacher said she was swimming beautifully it would sound more usual to our ears but he may believe prettily and beautifully are interchangeable

lateatwork · 22/04/2024 17:34

Littletreefrog · 22/04/2024 17:31

This is what I was going to say. My friend speaks English as a second language and will use prettily where we might say beautifully. So if a swimming teacher said she was swimming beautifully it would sound more usual to our ears but he may believe prettily and beautifully are interchangeable

Yes, This. 'Swimming beautifully' I think sounds fine- as Nd to me obviously complementary.

DivisionOfTasks · 22/04/2024 19:06

IvorTheEngineDriver · 22/04/2024 16:41

My grandfather used to say of any sporting action that was well done - from football to snooker - that it was "pretty to watch".

You are over-reacting IMO.

Yes well I don’t like it. I am in London and I have never heard a boy doing anything being described as ‘prettily’. I wouldn’t complain or anything but I dislike the usage.