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To still be shocked by what I saw!!

171 replies

Newname71 · 20/04/2024 17:09

I was on my weekly Saturday outing with DM. Checking my rear view mirror and I had to do a double take!! Car behind me, female driver with L plates on the car. Male front seat passenger had a little girl sat on his knee! She looked about 18 months old! Said to DM, just check I’m not seeing things!! Nope, I wasn’t! Pulled over and reported to 101, I honestly can’t believe there are people out there that stupid and reckless!

OP posts:
Newname71 · 21/04/2024 11:40

Coshei · 21/04/2024 07:50

Absolutely ridiculous busybody move. I hope you also reported yourself for taking your eyes off the road to take in as much detail as possible.

If you used your eyes and read my post properly you would see that my DM was in the car with me! And tbh I don’t give a flying fuck who thinks I’m a busybody. Too many people look the other way when it comes to child safeguarding IMO.

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Morph22010 · 21/04/2024 11:43

One of my mums neighbours was reported for repeatedly having kids in the car without car seats, either on knees of just sat direct on seats. The police came round and spoke to them then came again to make sure they had bought car seats so police did take it seriously

FuzzyWuzzyWuzABear · 21/04/2024 11:47

I often wonder what happens when police get these calls?

I'd like to think all the cars in the area are told to look out for a blue Fiesta with reg plate XXXXX but how does that work in reality, given how many other things they'll be doing/looking out for?

Does the PC in the passenger seat sit there with a notepad and a list of all the reg plates they need to try and spot?

Morph22010 · 21/04/2024 11:50

FuzzyWuzzyWuzABear · 21/04/2024 11:47

I often wonder what happens when police get these calls?

I'd like to think all the cars in the area are told to look out for a blue Fiesta with reg plate XXXXX but how does that work in reality, given how many other things they'll be doing/looking out for?

Does the PC in the passenger seat sit there with a notepad and a list of all the reg plates they need to try and spot?

I guess they can look up the address from the reg and send someone round. They can’t actually charge someone but can just advise them, for some people that may be enough

FuzzyWuzzyWuzABear · 21/04/2024 11:53

Morph22010 · 21/04/2024 11:50

I guess they can look up the address from the reg and send someone round. They can’t actually charge someone but can just advise them, for some people that may be enough

I can't see the point in that.

There's no evidence so the likelihood of someone admitting it is minuscule.

Plus, I just don't see how they'd find the time as many don't/can't come out when you've been burgled.

Coshei · 21/04/2024 12:05

Newname71 · 21/04/2024 11:40

If you used your eyes and read my post properly you would see that my DM was in the car with me! And tbh I don’t give a flying fuck who thinks I’m a busybody. Too many people look the other way when it comes to child safeguarding IMO.

This is a click bait and faux outrage thread and you know it. You reported something and that should be it. Nothing happened that would have left you still “shocked by what you saw”. But I am sure that the title was chosen deliberately to get attention.

Morph22010 · 21/04/2024 12:07

FuzzyWuzzyWuzABear · 21/04/2024 11:53

I can't see the point in that.

There's no evidence so the likelihood of someone admitting it is minuscule.

Plus, I just don't see how they'd find the time as many don't/can't come out when you've been burgled.

All I know is my mums neighbour got a visit off the police as they were reported, police wanted to see the car seats which they didn’t have snd then came back when they’d bought some to make sure. They couldn’t prosecute or anything as no proof but the visit from the police alone was enough that they started using car seats

Tessisme · 21/04/2024 12:12

Years ago, before I had children and car seats weren't even close to being on my radar, I remember seeing a security guy rushing from outside the shop I had just left and chasing a car as it left the car park, yelling his head off. He managed to stop the car and the woman wound down her window. It turned out she woman driving, actually driving, with her child on her knee. The security man gave her a right old mouthful. But she just drove off. Some parents are a bit shit.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 21/04/2024 12:22

EggChair · 20/04/2024 20:09

‘Indigenous’ area?

I'd expect this means in Australia.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/standards/australian-statistical-geography-standard-asgs-edition-3/jul2021-jun2026/indigenous-structure/indigenous-areas

patchworkpal · 21/04/2024 12:24

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DivergentTris · 21/04/2024 12:25

People should be reported for this as it is illegal aswell as irresponsible.

However, I agree with other posters commenting on OP being shocked though. Goodness, how would they cope witnesses something more violent or an actual car accident. People behave much worse than this at times and it doesn't even break the law either.

I won't knock op for reporting, they were right to do this, but they do need to open their eyes a bit! Especially if this shocked them, build a bit more resilience to life or generally be a bit more aware of life!

FuzzyWuzzyWuzABear · 21/04/2024 12:29

Morph22010 · 21/04/2024 12:07

All I know is my mums neighbour got a visit off the police as they were reported, police wanted to see the car seats which they didn’t have snd then came back when they’d bought some to make sure. They couldn’t prosecute or anything as no proof but the visit from the police alone was enough that they started using car seats

That's great that they had the time.

It's what old style policing looked like many years ago, and I think communities were all the better for it.

Not a hope in hell where I live (Met police area) I'm afraid.

Newname71 · 21/04/2024 12:39

DivergentTris · 21/04/2024 12:25

People should be reported for this as it is illegal aswell as irresponsible.

However, I agree with other posters commenting on OP being shocked though. Goodness, how would they cope witnesses something more violent or an actual car accident. People behave much worse than this at times and it doesn't even break the law either.

I won't knock op for reporting, they were right to do this, but they do need to open their eyes a bit! Especially if this shocked them, build a bit more resilience to life or generally be a bit more aware of life!

I’m actually very resilient. I’ve coped with my DF passing from cancer, DM having leukaemia and supporting a suicidal child. Perhaps this is partly why I was shocked. I can’t comprehend a parent putting their child in harms way.
Edited to add, my suicidal child.

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bettytaghetti · 21/04/2024 13:20

DustyLee123 · 21/04/2024 07:45

I saw a toddler on the father’s knee the other day. If the airbag went off the kid would be dead.

This!

It also applies to those front seat passengers who put their feet up on the dashboard. This is just one example but there are many if you google (don't if you're squeamish!):
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-lost-forehead-after-resting-14211161#

Please don't have your kids on your lap in the front seat with airbags!

Woman lost forehead after resting knees on dashboard before horror car crash

Grainne Kealy, from Laois, Ireland, is urging people to not make the same mistake she did

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/woman-lost-forehead-after-resting-14211161#

Brawcolli · 21/04/2024 13:42

DivergentTris · 21/04/2024 12:25

People should be reported for this as it is illegal aswell as irresponsible.

However, I agree with other posters commenting on OP being shocked though. Goodness, how would they cope witnesses something more violent or an actual car accident. People behave much worse than this at times and it doesn't even break the law either.

I won't knock op for reporting, they were right to do this, but they do need to open their eyes a bit! Especially if this shocked them, build a bit more resilience to life or generally be a bit more aware of life!

I think it’s a bit odd to assume op needs to ‘build
more resilience to life’ because she’s shocked by this. I used to work in a & e, have seen a lot of shocking things and this would still have shocked me!

walnutcoffeecake · 21/04/2024 18:38

Some of the replies op has given tells me shes more than a busybody.
You need to let this go nothing happened nothing on the news you reported it.
So now MOVE ON.
It's like you want more attention and praise for what you done.
Bait thread now.

Harls1969 · 21/04/2024 19:05

It happens a lot around here. Parents who use their seatbelts, yet let the kids jump around unrestrained in the back too.

FriedEggs1 · 21/04/2024 19:17

Applescruffle · 21/04/2024 11:31

You should stand on the street and buckle the child in before you get in the car. That would stop them.

I've done that a few times and need to go back to doing it again

HerRoyalGoddess · 21/04/2024 19:39

I work in a petrol station, it's more common than you think. I once reported a bloke who was clearly drunk and told us he was off to pick his kid up, I reported him to the police, we were told later that he was 5x over the limit with his kid in the car.

Moll2020 · 21/04/2024 19:42

A few years ago my car was parked outside my house, a car driven by a human with a human in the passenger seat with a 2 year old sitting on the human passenger’s lap. Driver hit my car, pushed my car quite far down the road, 2 year old went through the windscreen, badly injured, human driving was drunk - 2 1/2 times over the limit. Shocking and very sad. The humans the op saw deserve to be caught and banned, well done the op for calling 101. I don’t give a flying fu*k if anyone thinks this is just drama or over reaction, when you have witnessed an accident you know how serious and stupid the human driving and the human passenger is that the op saw.

Americano75 · 21/04/2024 20:25

I see it a lot round where I live and I still think it's shocking. Absolutely boils my piss that people treat their child's safety so casually.

CarterBeatsTheDevil · 21/04/2024 20:37

I think that's unbelievably stupid behaviour. I'm not sure I would have pulled over to call 101, but I wouldn't fault anyone who did.

It's amazing how many people's risk assessments boil down to "I personally haven't experienced an accident whilst indulging in this obviously incredibly dangerous behaviour yet so there's no risk that I will".

Thehop · 21/04/2024 20:41

The car seat situations i see daily are sk dangerous it's unreal.

sady, nothing ever done about it.

YaMuvva · 21/04/2024 20:44

I have to say I’m a bit disappointed after reading the title. I thought it was gonna be something like a horse with a dog’s head.

pinkstripeycat · 21/04/2024 21:19

YeahComeOnThen · 20/04/2024 17:43

@Newname71 you're very easily shocked & very dramatic.

I’m sure if you were an emergency worker you would be shocked at how irresponsible some adults can be when you have to scrape a dead child off of the road.

My BIL was a firefighter and he told of a story where there was a 2 yr old laying face down in the road after going through a car windscreen. He was shocked and if you are human I don’t think you ever stop being shocked.

As you aren’t shocked I assume you are one of those people.