To be a bit annoyed at Supply Teacher not having to do any planning?

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I am a Year 4 teacher in a 2 form entry primary school, my year group teacher left at Easter for a job in another school. Therefore, we have a long term supply in until the end of the school year and the school are advertising for a position with a September start. With my previous colleague we shared the planning between us, however I have been told by SLT that I will have to do all planning by myself as the supply only agreed to do the role if she was not required to do the planning. Supply also has been told she will not be subject to book scrutinies and will not need to attend staff meetings after school or INSET days.

AIBU to be a bit annoyed at having to all the planning now? I thought long term supply had the responsibility of planning?

By the time Nospecialcharactersplease made her "there's always one" comment there were actually 2 PPs who suggested it and now there's a 3rd and Cormorant's colleague too causing great problems for Cormorant's own health.

Maybe Rishi when was referring to the "sick note culture", specifically stress, etc, he really meant amongst public sector workers and not those on benefits really. But, that would be political suicide wouldn't it?

At best, a supply teacher is paid 1/195 per day. At worst, if engaged through a less scrupulous agency, they are paid significantly less. I wouldn't expect a supply teacher to do any planning, INSET or staff meetings.

In the school I worked in, supply teachers do no planning.
That's why they are supply teachers. They teach to someone else's planning then go home.

The school is probably desperate. Speak to your union and try to get more PPA.

Respect to the supply for negotiating that deal! However I understand it is annoying for you. But your annoyance should be with the school, not the sub

>as the supply only agreed to do the role if she was not required to do the planning

Can't really be mad at the supply for only agreeing to work on her own terms, she especially has the upper hand and bargaining power with how desperate schools are for cover now.

I did a maternity cover on long term supply (3 days a week) and shared the planning with my job share partner. I also attended all staff meetings - though I did get a bit of extra paid PPA which covered that. I also claimed for inset days.

I was (am) paid on M6 though because I have a supply contract with the specific school, I don't teach anywhere else (and it's my children's school). It's a mutually beneficial situation. I would not have done the planning if I were with an agency, and being paid much less.

I still do a regular afternoon a week at the school (plus any extra supply that comes up). I claim an extra hour per week for the planning/marking that goes with my regular afternoon because I'm also subject leader and do the planning in my subject for half the school. I had to ask for that though, it wasn't automatically given to me.

It's a tough ask when other teachers in the school are sharing planning, but as many have said, teachers in 1FE schools do this week in, week out all year. I think you can reasonably be expected to plan, but you shouldn't be doing all the resourcing, printing and organising for the other class. That really would be additional workload. I would expect additional PPA for that, as the work really would be doubled.

Obviously supply teachers don’t plan, why would they! They teach and go home. They are only paid for contact time.
I teach a mixed year class so do double your planning. Instead of being on here moaning about it, get on with it!

I think supply is the way to go, get paid more and if you just do short term than no planning or marking involved 😁. Obviously no sick pay or holidays though ……

But should OP have to do extra unpaid work to facilitate this. Would anyone in any other profession be asked to do a significant amount of unpaid work for another member of staff for no extra pay and be expected to feel bad for not being happy about it! Refuse to do this OP. The headteacher who employed the supply teacher can sort it out!

That’s an awful thing to suggest! No wonder people don’t take stress seriously and think that people off with stress are skiving!

Oh come on, as teachers we really do ourselves a disservice saying things like this. It's embarrassing. Yes it's rubbish doing extra unpaid work when a colleague is of sick but of course it happens in other professions.

Her day rate will be a lot less than your salary and for contracted hours only - why should she work overtime for free?

What a fantastic attitude!
As others have said probably the only way they could get the cover- though why they didn't advertise for a replacement in time is a mystery. Can you negotiate with SLT that you get some time or help with plannning from them ?

The supply teacher has no obligation to do her own planning as she's paid a day rate. You need to be given time to plan by your SLT though.

What a ridiculous statement! What do you think happens in basically every other profession when someone is off sick - other people pick up the slack. Teachers always seem to think they have it worst in terms of workload for some strange reason…

The supply teacher is almost certainly being paid well under their experience level. They will have no pension or sick pay and their contract can be terminated at any time by the school for no reason.

If the school wants someone to plan, attend meetings, do more than standard marking, they need to pay the teacher more. But they have gone for the convenience of a supply and giving a large amount of their daily spend to an agency, rather than the teacher doing the work.

So YABU for expecting someone to do something they're not paid for. It's one term, it's not that bad.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable that you are annoyed about essentially being given more work.

I also don’t think the supply teacher is unreasonable for setting boundaries about not doing the planning since this isn’t typically included for supply.

Have you told your line manager you are not happy? Have you asked for extra planning time? I’m assuming the supply teacher won’t need to use any planning time so could have theirs?

I would do the planning, but request extra PPA to ensure you have time.

Quit and be a supply teacher?

I’m a supply teacher. I get about £90 a day less than I got last year in my permanent position. There’s no way I will take on full responsibilities for this rate. Your school need to employ someone directly if they want a teacher to undertake planning, and pay accordingly.

Are you a teacher? Unless you are at a one form entry school, you share the planning with your colleagues, so would only do half or less of the planning. Doing all the planning is not a normal workload.

Is the supply teacher paid for planning and attending inset days?

I kind of admire her. I'm not in education in any capacity but I imagine supply teachers have a pretty raw deal in terms of salary/pension. It's not fair on you but I think she's right to refuse to do these things.

I'm reminded of the thread by the TA who was regularly expected to fill in for teachers on her measly pay. It all sounds very sexist to me.