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Why on Earth did Britain join in on shooting down drones fired by Iran???

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 13:42

I predicted before midnight last night, that Iran is a 4th world nation when it comes to modern warfare and at most, 1% of what they throw at Israel will get through. This morning, we learned that around 330 drones, possibly 3/4 Cruise missiles were fired and all were either shot down by warplanes or the IDF's, Iron Dome system, thankfully. One injury to child reported from falling debris.

Iran had to respond as like any weak leader hanging by the skin of their teeth, IE the Israeli PM authrosied an attack in Syria on Iran's consulate, which in turn killed 4 top generals and was an attack on Iran itself in the eyes of the world

Iran was looking seriously weak as it was putting up with these attacks as above. Iran wanted to prove itself but not go to a full war because like any country, those at the top of the food chain are cowards and do not want to lose their palaces, lifestyles, wealth etc, So Iran gave several days warning and also stated it wont use ballistic missiles which are near impossible to stop

Therefore, last night after giving several days warning, Iran launched the attack.
Thankfully, Iran's dictators had been mislead by their General's about how good these drones are. Iran is now looking like a fool, a very weak fool, as weak as the Israeli PM

Israeli PM started this by attacking Iran's embassy and this was done as the USA was backing off, holding off supplies re attacks on Gaza so the weak PM authrosied the attack knowing full well what may happen

We are in dangerous times now because, Israels PM is very, very weak and may do something that results in a much bigger war where many innocents are killed. Sadly, this is what weak leaders do. As you all know once Hamas has been eradicated, Gaza offensive finished the Israeli PM will lose his job so its in his interest to keep on fighting

Iran fully supports the proxies that are in Israel and surrounding areas

WTF did our stupid leader in number 10 allow Britain's planes to shoot down missiles? I bet you that in the heads of mad people, lone wolves, England is now at a great risk from a terrorist attack

Our naval forces depend on scavenging parts from other ships. The aircraft carried, rarely one of them works we never needed one never mind two. They have 2/3 warplanes between the carries. The people of Britain need looking after and our money, possibly tens of millions was thrown down the drain last night and I am guessing that Britain has wasted over 200 million by trying to shoot down Houti missiles and flying warplanes as it costs hundreds of thousands to fly a single warplane for a few hours never mind the missiles being used

AIBU to feel that Sunak and gang were totally wrong to get us/England/Britain involved in a a skirmish by shooting down Iran's drones, the attack that was initiated by Israel's weak PM by attacking Iran's Embassy/Consulate? WTF put us at further risk IE people of the UK and waste hundreds of millions of pounds of our/taxpayers money that could easily be better used!!

To be clear, I fully blame Hamas/their supported who live in 7 star hotels for the murderous attack on the people of Israel on Oct 7ht 2023. I also fully support Israels actions in Gaza to remove terrorists and free hostages

FYI, I blame the Israel PM for allowing the attack on Iran's Embassy/Consulate knowing full-well what may follow

[Title edited by MNHQ on OP's request]

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cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 21:06

The attack was well signalled. Iran had to be seen to be doing something to retaliate for what happened to it.

But by signalling it well, it gave time for assets to be in place.

By shooting down drones, we helped reduce any damage - and Iran would have known that most of them would be shot down.

Hopefully Iran will be able to say that it retaliated.
Israel will say that it defended itself.
There was little damage.

Both sides can claim something and a line can be drawn under the Israeli attack on the Iranian embassy for now.

We helped reduce the impact

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 21:07

Israels war cabinet and majoirty in favour of military response

But divided over timing ans scale of response

I am predicting a very limited respose on large airfields and the taking out of some disused building and Iran given a24 hour warning before attack

Hopefully that will be the end of that for the sake of all innocent people in Iran and Israel

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muggart · 14/04/2024 21:08

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator It's happened time and time again. We intervene and the end result is sickening.

the scary part is how quickly "normal" people can be whipped into a frenzy supporting war. Usually these are good people and thats how they get suckered in - by being told that war is the only path to peace.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 21:08

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 21:06

The attack was well signalled. Iran had to be seen to be doing something to retaliate for what happened to it.

But by signalling it well, it gave time for assets to be in place.

By shooting down drones, we helped reduce any damage - and Iran would have known that most of them would be shot down.

Hopefully Iran will be able to say that it retaliated.
Israel will say that it defended itself.
There was little damage.

Both sides can claim something and a line can be drawn under the Israeli attack on the Iranian embassy for now.

We helped reduce the impact

Thank you, I agree with everything bar the last sentence

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cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 21:08

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 19:44

It was empty mate and it was after usa was killing irans friends - you would expect that

Any links

You remember the US hostage crisis in Tehran?

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 21:11

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 21:08

Thank you, I agree with everything bar the last sentence

In the scheme of things, we probably contributed very little.

But we are already seen as part of the US and we have assets in the region. Cyprus and RAF Akrotiri is a very handy base to have.

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 21:13

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 19:34

Example, please!!

The bottom line, two wrong don't make a right and more importantly, the weak Israeli PM only did this to gain the reaction from Iran and then USA move back to Israels side having rebuked their leader several times in the last week

Iran Hostage Crisis - Definition, Results & Facts (history.com)

Remember this?

Iran Hostage Crisis - Definition, Results & Facts

On November 4, 1979, a group of Iranian students stormed the U.S. Embassy in Tehran, taking more than 60 American hostages. Their reaction was based on President Jimmy Carter’s decision to allow Iran’s deposed Shah, a pro-Western autocrat, to come to t...

https://www.history.com/topics/middle-east/iran-hostage-crisis

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 21:16

TBH, forgot about that must have been at least 20 year ago but usa and iran were at massive odds because usa disagreed with the regime change that previously favoured the west

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 21:16

Wow just noted the date 79 - no wonder i forgot

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takemeawayagain · 14/04/2024 21:22

I got the impression (from what i read on the BBC) that they shot them down to stop things escalating even further. Netanyahu has lost the plot and who knows what he would have done if they had hit.

Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 21:25

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 21:16

Wow just noted the date 79 - no wonder i forgot

Why would you forget.

You seem to know nothing so I don't understand your thread.

Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 21:26

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 21:16

TBH, forgot about that must have been at least 20 year ago but usa and iran were at massive odds because usa disagreed with the regime change that previously favoured the west

This just proves you are just a idiot commenting it really does.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 21:27

takemeawayagain · 14/04/2024 21:22

I got the impression (from what i read on the BBC) that they shot them down to stop things escalating even further. Netanyahu has lost the plot and who knows what he would have done if they had hit.

So how many did our RAF and RN manage to shoot down?

Will they/raf/rn shoot down Israels response to "stop things escalating"??

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cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 21:40

So you agree with what I said re signalling about its intentions - but you posted this:

" predicted before midnight last night, that Iran is a 4th world nation when it comes to modern warfare and at most, 1% of what they throw at Israel will get through. This morning, we learned that around 330 drones, possibly 3/4 Cruise missiles were fired and all were either shot down by warplanes or the IDF's, Iron Dome system, thankfully. One injury to child reported from falling debris."

Do you still think Iran is a 4th World nation in modern warfare - or is it just doing something, knowing it would be intercepted - and there is potentially a lot more in its arsenal - and next time, it won't be so easy to intercept?

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 21:41

Sending slow moving drones that take many hours to arrive is basically saying, shoot me down.

Unless defences can be overwhelmed by volume.

passthepenguin · 14/04/2024 22:01

peakygold · 14/04/2024 13:51

We are a NATO country. We have some skin in the fight.

But Israel isn’t part of NATO as far as I’m aware so I don’t understand why the Government is dragging us into this. They are playing a very dangerous game imho.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 22:07

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 21:41

Sending slow moving drones that take many hours to arrive is basically saying, shoot me down.

Unless defences can be overwhelmed by volume.

Iron Dome managed to shoot down most of the 1900 rockets fired by Hams and Hezbollah in the firt day so clearly not going to be overwhelmed by this slow and large, dangerous toy.

IMO, if the Israeli PM really wanted to look good and sensible, he take it as a victory having shot down as predicted by me, 99% of the drones etc

The thing is leaders on all sides are often sat in bunkers or 7 start hotels far away and could not care less re the orsinary people they claim to be helping

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DdraigGoch · 14/04/2024 22:25

I notice that there hasn't been a single report of a diplomatic casualty in Damascus. There were however two Brigadier Generals among other military and paramilitary personnel.

The officers headed up Quds Force, which coordinates the various Iranian-backed militias who target Jerusalem (including Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis). So it was a legitimate military target.

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 22:32

DdraigGoch · 14/04/2024 22:25

I notice that there hasn't been a single report of a diplomatic casualty in Damascus. There were however two Brigadier Generals among other military and paramilitary personnel.

The officers headed up Quds Force, which coordinates the various Iranian-backed militias who target Jerusalem (including Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis). So it was a legitimate military target.

Do you think it was a sensible thing to do ?

NotTerfNorCis · 14/04/2024 22:43

Agree with the OP that this is obvious face-saving by Iran. The reality is, Israel can do what it wants with America's blessing, but Iran has to at least put on a show of retaliation. The poster who referred to it as 'theatre' is spot on.

DdraigGoch · 14/04/2024 22:45

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 22:32

Do you think it was a sensible thing to do ?

Assassinating the men coordinating a long list of militias who are attacking you from every direction? Yes, an entirely sensible option. The Americans hit another such officer four years ago. Iran's response wasn't exactly crushing, was it? All bar one of its weapons blown out of the sky.

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 22:58

DdraigGoch · 14/04/2024 22:45

Assassinating the men coordinating a long list of militias who are attacking you from every direction? Yes, an entirely sensible option. The Americans hit another such officer four years ago. Iran's response wasn't exactly crushing, was it? All bar one of its weapons blown out of the sky.

I would disagree - and yes, the Americans do this.

They also respond militarily if they are attacked somewhere.

Iran has responded. A controlled and signalled response - knowing that they can say they retaliated but not enough to cause Israel to react back. Hopefully.

If you attack a country, you can expect that country to retaliate. If that country does not retaliate, what happens next?

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 23:02

Either Iran attacked and it failed because of a poor armoury and a good defence - so people think it's got a weak military. And they did a massive attack which if it had been successful would have provoked Israel into a massive counter attack

Or

Iran attacked knowing that it had been signalled, not caring that the weapons would be shot down / in fact hoping that the signals they had given would meant that they would be shot down, but sending a message saying, we retaliated but don't do something similar again

I hope it's the second one. Because if it was the first one and it had been successful, God knows what would be happening now

DdraigGoch · 14/04/2024 23:04

cakeorwine · 14/04/2024 22:58

I would disagree - and yes, the Americans do this.

They also respond militarily if they are attacked somewhere.

Iran has responded. A controlled and signalled response - knowing that they can say they retaliated but not enough to cause Israel to react back. Hopefully.

If you attack a country, you can expect that country to retaliate. If that country does not retaliate, what happens next?

Given that Iran have been orchestrating attacks on Israel for decades, they can hardly have expected Israel not to retaliate eventually, can they?

rainingsnoring · 14/04/2024 23:10

Your OP is full of rubbish and very poorly written but on the point of UK involvement, I agree with you. Totally unsurprising though because the UK always follows the US in everything. The lack of diplomacy and sense in this situation and that in Ukraine is shocking and frightening.