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Why on Earth did Britain join in on shooting down drones fired by Iran???

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 13:42

I predicted before midnight last night, that Iran is a 4th world nation when it comes to modern warfare and at most, 1% of what they throw at Israel will get through. This morning, we learned that around 330 drones, possibly 3/4 Cruise missiles were fired and all were either shot down by warplanes or the IDF's, Iron Dome system, thankfully. One injury to child reported from falling debris.

Iran had to respond as like any weak leader hanging by the skin of their teeth, IE the Israeli PM authrosied an attack in Syria on Iran's consulate, which in turn killed 4 top generals and was an attack on Iran itself in the eyes of the world

Iran was looking seriously weak as it was putting up with these attacks as above. Iran wanted to prove itself but not go to a full war because like any country, those at the top of the food chain are cowards and do not want to lose their palaces, lifestyles, wealth etc, So Iran gave several days warning and also stated it wont use ballistic missiles which are near impossible to stop

Therefore, last night after giving several days warning, Iran launched the attack.
Thankfully, Iran's dictators had been mislead by their General's about how good these drones are. Iran is now looking like a fool, a very weak fool, as weak as the Israeli PM

Israeli PM started this by attacking Iran's embassy and this was done as the USA was backing off, holding off supplies re attacks on Gaza so the weak PM authrosied the attack knowing full well what may happen

We are in dangerous times now because, Israels PM is very, very weak and may do something that results in a much bigger war where many innocents are killed. Sadly, this is what weak leaders do. As you all know once Hamas has been eradicated, Gaza offensive finished the Israeli PM will lose his job so its in his interest to keep on fighting

Iran fully supports the proxies that are in Israel and surrounding areas

WTF did our stupid leader in number 10 allow Britain's planes to shoot down missiles? I bet you that in the heads of mad people, lone wolves, England is now at a great risk from a terrorist attack

Our naval forces depend on scavenging parts from other ships. The aircraft carried, rarely one of them works we never needed one never mind two. They have 2/3 warplanes between the carries. The people of Britain need looking after and our money, possibly tens of millions was thrown down the drain last night and I am guessing that Britain has wasted over 200 million by trying to shoot down Houti missiles and flying warplanes as it costs hundreds of thousands to fly a single warplane for a few hours never mind the missiles being used

AIBU to feel that Sunak and gang were totally wrong to get us/England/Britain involved in a a skirmish by shooting down Iran's drones, the attack that was initiated by Israel's weak PM by attacking Iran's Embassy/Consulate? WTF put us at further risk IE people of the UK and waste hundreds of millions of pounds of our/taxpayers money that could easily be better used!!

To be clear, I fully blame Hamas/their supported who live in 7 star hotels for the murderous attack on the people of Israel on Oct 7ht 2023. I also fully support Israels actions in Gaza to remove terrorists and free hostages

FYI, I blame the Israel PM for allowing the attack on Iran's Embassy/Consulate knowing full-well what may follow

[Title edited by MNHQ on OP's request]

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 19:21

CatHerderSupreme · 14/04/2024 18:54

See the main articles on the BBC website for a start.

Cheers I have and earlier link

I'm still of the informed judgement that RAF jets should not have been involved.

Does anyone know how much its cost us to be over there?

Breaking: Israeli war cabinet comes out without a decision if to attack Iran or not. This is a good signal and a pointer to what I've said here and other threads, ie IDF will respond but in a very measured way, warn the Iotollas re their intentions and bomb a massive airbase and knock out a few disused buildings. Thankfully this will be the end of this face saving battle for both sides.

I predicted before midnight last night that 99% of Irans drones/Cruise missiles will not get through and it is now a fact

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 19:28

@DdraigGoch
"Er no, Iran has been openly hostile to Israel since 1991."

"Err yes,t his thread is about IDF attack on Iran's embassy/consulate and Iran's first direct attack on Israel.

Er, I hope that is clear.

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Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 19:31

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 19:28

@DdraigGoch
"Er no, Iran has been openly hostile to Israel since 1991."

"Err yes,t his thread is about IDF attack on Iran's embassy/consulate and Iran's first direct attack on Israel.

Er, I hope that is clear.

Iran has had no respect for embassy/consulates in the past , why should anyone else have respect on theirs.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 19:34

Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 19:31

Iran has had no respect for embassy/consulates in the past , why should anyone else have respect on theirs.

Example, please!!

The bottom line, two wrong don't make a right and more importantly, the weak Israeli PM only did this to gain the reaction from Iran and then USA move back to Israels side having rebuked their leader several times in the last week

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Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 19:39

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 19:34

Example, please!!

The bottom line, two wrong don't make a right and more importantly, the weak Israeli PM only did this to gain the reaction from Iran and then USA move back to Israels side having rebuked their leader several times in the last week

The fact you are asking for examples means you know nothing did you miss the USA embassy in Iran being taken over in past. The embassy in UK.

DdraigGoch · 14/04/2024 19:41

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 19:28

@DdraigGoch
"Er no, Iran has been openly hostile to Israel since 1991."

"Err yes,t his thread is about IDF attack on Iran's embassy/consulate and Iran's first direct attack on Israel.

Er, I hope that is clear.

Iran has been using its proxies to attack Israel for 30 years, and stepped up recently. No amount of claiming "Israel started it" changes that.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 19:44

Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 19:39

The fact you are asking for examples means you know nothing did you miss the USA embassy in Iran being taken over in past. The embassy in UK.

It was empty mate and it was after usa was killing irans friends - you would expect that

Any links

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Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 19:52

What the hell do you mean it was empty mate, what's that even mean?

I'm not going to provide you with links of the USA and UK Iranian hostage crises. They are part of history and you can Google them.

You seem not to know history, so your posts are bizarre

likepebblesonabeach · 14/04/2024 19:53

@DistinguishedSocialCommentator seeing as you are back can you please answer why you said us/England/Britain?
I have asked twice and you seem to have ignored it.

Februaryfeels · 14/04/2024 19:57

England? Have I fallen asleep and missed the dismantling of the UK?

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 20:05

Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 19:52

What the hell do you mean it was empty mate, what's that even mean?

I'm not going to provide you with links of the USA and UK Iranian hostage crises. They are part of history and you can Google them.

You seem not to know history, so your posts are bizarre

Please calm down and ask me politely and I will try to answer.

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likepebblesonabeach · 14/04/2024 20:07

@Februaryfeels it would appear so going by the op but they aren't answering when I've asked them

Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 20:09

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 20:05

Please calm down and ask me politely and I will try to answer.

What does it's empty mate even mean, I asked once and it appears asking twice even doesn't work.

I don't owe it to you to ask politely I've not been rude so eithier answer or shut up and asking me to provide elinks to well documented eventd seems a bit strange.

Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 20:10

likepebblesonabeach · 14/04/2024 20:07

@Februaryfeels it would appear so going by the op but they aren't answering when I've asked them

It seems the OP has no idea about the conflict and is just posting soundbites.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 20:19

Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 20:10

It seems the OP has no idea about the conflict and is just posting soundbites.

Really. Looks like you may be aware of my prediction last night that IDF will knock out 99% of the drones/etc and I got it spot on.

I'm not sure what your agenda is but I will say it how it is as per my OP.
ts always the innocents that lose thier homes, lives/family etc when those at the top of the food chain are sitting in their bunkers and having a glass of wine etc

Just becsue you support number 10 for wasting my, the taxpayers money in a war that has nothing to do with England, I will speak out against them as there are many in England inc the NHS, education, roads and jobs that could benefit from the hundreds of millions being wasted over there.

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likepebblesonabeach · 14/04/2024 20:20

@Tattletwat Exactly, it is a bit difficult to debate the conflict the op feels they are so knowledgeable on when they don't even have a basic grasp of the British political system they are complaining about.

CatHerderSupreme · 14/04/2024 20:21

OP, as well as thinking about the cost of the RAF participating in defending Israel from Iran’s attack, you should also consider what the cost would be if they did not.

Tattletwat · 14/04/2024 20:25

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 20:19

Really. Looks like you may be aware of my prediction last night that IDF will knock out 99% of the drones/etc and I got it spot on.

I'm not sure what your agenda is but I will say it how it is as per my OP.
ts always the innocents that lose thier homes, lives/family etc when those at the top of the food chain are sitting in their bunkers and having a glass of wine etc

Just becsue you support number 10 for wasting my, the taxpayers money in a war that has nothing to do with England, I will speak out against them as there are many in England inc the NHS, education, roads and jobs that could benefit from the hundreds of millions being wasted over there.

And I will ask you again what does tur meaningless phrase "It was empty mate" means, seeing as you can't answer a question we have to assume you have no idea about debate.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 20:34

CatHerderSupreme · 14/04/2024 20:21

OP, as well as thinking about the cost of the RAF participating in defending Israel from Iran’s attack, you should also consider what the cost would be if they did not.

Please read my post and also if you have time, read about IDF's military capacity and USA's military and you will note in the scheme of things there is, was NO need for number ten to waste our, taxpayers money and put us at greater risk of lone wolf attacks

This attack by Iran has been instigated by the attack on Irans embassy/etc and IMO, the leader of Israel that is hanging in there by the skin of his teeth knew what may happen when they managed to kill 3/4 top army personnel from Iran in Syria

We should stay out of it.
Number ten has made us a massive risk becuse they cant stop barking with orders at Russia and now this. Re Russia, supply the weapons and keep the trap shut Re Israel, FGS, leave us out of it.

If number 10 really wants to help the people of israel, tell their leaders to remove the settlers from the west bank and Hamas from israel and then you will get peace

Re Iran, the majority of people there live in fear of the Ioltollas regimes and their cronies and the way to help them and Israel is by funding the anti regime groupls just like the CIA does

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focacciamuffin · 14/04/2024 20:36

Just becsue you support number 10 for wasting my, the taxpayers money in a war that has nothing to do with England, I will speak out against them as there are many in England inc the NHS, education, roads and jobs that could benefit from the hundreds of millions being wasted over there.

It has everything to do with the UK if it stops the conflict in the Middle East from escalating. If the Iranian drones and missiles had got through to their targets, Isreal would almost certainly have felt the need to retaliate. Iran has now stated the their offensive is now over.

Liv999 · 14/04/2024 20:43

DdraigGoch · 14/04/2024 14:53

Well you've achieved the impossible: you've made the OP's posts look intelligent by comparison with yours.

The OP is 100% correct though

CatHerderSupreme · 14/04/2024 20:45

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 20:34

Please read my post and also if you have time, read about IDF's military capacity and USA's military and you will note in the scheme of things there is, was NO need for number ten to waste our, taxpayers money and put us at greater risk of lone wolf attacks

This attack by Iran has been instigated by the attack on Irans embassy/etc and IMO, the leader of Israel that is hanging in there by the skin of his teeth knew what may happen when they managed to kill 3/4 top army personnel from Iran in Syria

We should stay out of it.
Number ten has made us a massive risk becuse they cant stop barking with orders at Russia and now this. Re Russia, supply the weapons and keep the trap shut Re Israel, FGS, leave us out of it.

If number 10 really wants to help the people of israel, tell their leaders to remove the settlers from the west bank and Hamas from israel and then you will get peace

Re Iran, the majority of people there live in fear of the Ioltollas regimes and their cronies and the way to help them and Israel is by funding the anti regime groupls just like the CIA does

Your posts are nonsensical though. I would really suggest you find out what you are talking about before starting threads on something. These days it is so easy to find at least basic information about most things, after all.

muggart · 14/04/2024 20:46

Interesting. I stepped away from this thread for a while and just came back to it to see it's descended into personal insults being hurled at the OP. People are getting riled up by what is essentially a pacifist position for Britain. Is this because the war mongering instinct is generally held by those who are more hot-headed? Or is it because some posters are simply more loyal to Israel at all costs?

Either way i think this thread is a paradigm of things to come as the propaganda war ramps up: those in favour of de-escalation, a reduction in the arms trade, keeping the skirmishes local without big players coming along to blow everything up etc, will be vilified in the liberal globalist media. The raging war mongers will gift themselves the moral high ground and call the rest of us racists or conspiracy theorists or whatever the buzzword of the time is. We'll be expected to send our kids to fight Israel's war based on a manufactured fear of foreign "madmen" and fear of being a moral outcast.

Years later we'll look back and wring our hands about how awful it all was, much like we have with Iraq. It'll be too late, of course.

DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 20:47

focacciamuffin · 14/04/2024 20:36

Just becsue you support number 10 for wasting my, the taxpayers money in a war that has nothing to do with England, I will speak out against them as there are many in England inc the NHS, education, roads and jobs that could benefit from the hundreds of millions being wasted over there.

It has everything to do with the UK if it stops the conflict in the Middle East from escalating. If the Iranian drones and missiles had got through to their targets, Isreal would almost certainly have felt the need to retaliate. Iran has now stated the their offensive is now over.

Edited

So how many drones did the RAF and RN stop?
Are you aware re one of the many large aircarft carriers the USA has in the area. Just one of those has more power that our RAF combined. IE usa has two of those there plus ground bases and can easily manage without our efforts

The money could be better used here

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DistinguishedSocialCommentator · 14/04/2024 20:51

muggart · 14/04/2024 20:46

Interesting. I stepped away from this thread for a while and just came back to it to see it's descended into personal insults being hurled at the OP. People are getting riled up by what is essentially a pacifist position for Britain. Is this because the war mongering instinct is generally held by those who are more hot-headed? Or is it because some posters are simply more loyal to Israel at all costs?

Either way i think this thread is a paradigm of things to come as the propaganda war ramps up: those in favour of de-escalation, a reduction in the arms trade, keeping the skirmishes local without big players coming along to blow everything up etc, will be vilified in the liberal globalist media. The raging war mongers will gift themselves the moral high ground and call the rest of us racists or conspiracy theorists or whatever the buzzword of the time is. We'll be expected to send our kids to fight Israel's war based on a manufactured fear of foreign "madmen" and fear of being a moral outcast.

Years later we'll look back and wring our hands about how awful it all was, much like we have with Iraq. It'll be too late, of course.

Thank you

Re "iraq" - sadly, I got taken in by the pure BS spouted by our and other leaders. The only WMD Mr Saddam has was his mouth. An Iraqi resident, businessman that supported the overthrow of Saddam and regime was interviewed a couple of years atfter Saddam was hung and the man said the country had turned into a cesspit and he regretted ever wanting to have the regime kicked out

The same thing has happened in Libya ie another cesspit and beofre it was a thriving nation for at least 60% of the people there and now run by local warlords

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