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Would you hire someone visibly anorexic?

349 replies

Ncncncncc · 13/04/2024 12:47

I’m looking for honest (even if brutal) answers.

OP posts:
bows101 · 13/04/2024 13:56

It shouldn't make a difference. Everyone would prefer to employ perfect people but unfortunately that doesn't exist.

Usually it's a disciplined illness and comes with other things too like anxiety, ocd.
Due to anorexia, usually they get iller than usual with things like coughs and colds. So this could mean more time off

AgnesX · 13/04/2024 13:56

shoppingshamed · 13/04/2024 13:48

People apply for jobs they aren't capable every single day, when I worked in retail for example there were loads of applicants for shop floor job who couldn't have done even half a day

I guess I'm projecting my own work ethic and belief that people should be given an opportunity.

bows101 · 13/04/2024 13:58

Babyroobs · 13/04/2024 12:52

Would people be equally concerned about taking on someone very overweight though as this could equally be due to an eating disorder?

Yes of course, it works for extreme either end of the scale unfortunately

Womanofcustard · 13/04/2024 13:59

In today’s obeseogenic society, thin or anorexic is sometimes used to describe people who are in fact a normal weight.

Divebar2021 · 13/04/2024 14:01

How do people know so many anorexics? I’ve been aware of 2 women in my lifetime who I’ve encountered at the gym and were both obsessive exercisers. What struck me was not just the thinness but the peach fuzz I could see on their arms. I can’t imagine being in a position to see that otherwise and presume most sufferers are adept at covering up in baggy clothes. So I doubt I would know for certain that a thin person was anorexic. Whether I would recruit them knowing for sure would depend on the vacancy, how central it was to the business and the standard of other candidates.

Supersimkin2 · 13/04/2024 14:02

Yes and yes, and I have. Perfectionists are bloody brilliant in some jobs and we both get a lot out of it.

shoppingshamed · 13/04/2024 14:02

AgnesX · 13/04/2024 13:56

I guess I'm projecting my own work ethic and belief that people should be given an opportunity.

Unleas you work alone I'm surprised you've not come across employees who are poor at their jobs or unsuitable applicants for all kinds of positions

Or even in everyday life encountered rubbish customer service or bad workmanship

You having good work ethic is nothing to do with employees giving unsuitable applicants jobs

We have no idea if the OP is a good candidate, not getting a job may be nothing to do with what she looks like

TimeGrabsYouByTheWrist · 13/04/2024 14:07

Ncncncncc · 13/04/2024 12:47

I’m looking for honest (even if brutal) answers.

I'd have no issues.

As you wanted a blunt answer - someone with the mentality/will-power to withhold/restrict food in such a way are often VERY determined people who can apply the same mentality to their job. A determination to succeed. And usually a determination to appear normal and not take time off because you need to keep going.

Actually, a friend with the same ED was actually "saved" by her job for this very reason - she put her heart and soul into her work and ended up realising she was good at what she was doing and stopped focusing on the food so much and made a very successful career for herself in retail.

TitusMoan · 13/04/2024 14:09

Justcount · 13/04/2024 13:10

Christ this thread is awful

I’m going to stop hiring women - they might get pregnant

I’m going to stop hiring fat people - they might want a bigger chair or spend all their time eating

I don’t want old people either - they’re a bit slow

…….see how this line of thinking goes…….

What’s your thinking on hiring alcoholics (not those in recovery) ?

NickyWiresSunnies · 13/04/2024 14:10

Also, I'm sorry I didn't catch your update till now, & I wish you well, in everything.
Hope you get the job if you want it, our illness should not be discriminated against; especially as only 4-6% of people with eating disorders are underweight so imagine how many people with hidden variants are in employment.

BeretRaspberry · 13/04/2024 14:11

Babyroobs · 13/04/2024 12:52

Would people be equally concerned about taking on someone very overweight though as this could equally be due to an eating disorder?

It’s not uncommon for people to be denied employment because they’re fat.

SabreIsMyFave · 13/04/2024 14:13

BeretRaspberry · 13/04/2024 14:11

It’s not uncommon for people to be denied employment because they’re fat.

I said that earlier. Very true.

gillefc82 · 13/04/2024 14:14

Not sure what type of job you’re applying for OP, but as someone in a corporate setting, provided the candidate was well presented and demonstrated the knowledge, experience and soft skills required for the role, it wouldn’t be a problem for me.

As a teen I was anorexic, and even now at the age of 42, I still don’t have an entirely healthy relationship with food and my weight / body image. I can’t trust myself to have weighing scales in my house as I will become fixated and during any periods of stress my natural response is to stop eating.

Best of luck with the job search. It is a tough market out there at the moment, but don’t be discouraged. You’ll find the right role eventually.

SabreIsMyFave · 13/04/2024 14:14

AgnesX · 13/04/2024 13:51

I do apologise.

That's decent of you. Smile

Cygnetmad · 13/04/2024 14:14

WarshipRocinante · 13/04/2024 12:48

What’s your worry?

I hazard a guess that you never had nor have cared for with someone with the condition? What an absolutely stupid comment.

LiterallyOnFire · 13/04/2024 14:21

Divebar2021 · 13/04/2024 14:01

How do people know so many anorexics? I’ve been aware of 2 women in my lifetime who I’ve encountered at the gym and were both obsessive exercisers. What struck me was not just the thinness but the peach fuzz I could see on their arms. I can’t imagine being in a position to see that otherwise and presume most sufferers are adept at covering up in baggy clothes. So I doubt I would know for certain that a thin person was anorexic. Whether I would recruit them knowing for sure would depend on the vacancy, how central it was to the business and the standard of other candidates.

Girls' school. A competitive one. 🤷🏼‍♀️

AskNotForWhomTheBellCurves · 13/04/2024 14:23

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 13/04/2024 12:51

How would you know whether it was anorexia or some other condition? I have a friend who has had cancer and is VERY thin. She looks anorexic, but isn't.

Well to be fair that doesn't really make any difference, because it would also be quite reasonable for an employer to refuse to hire your friend with cancer even if she interviewed well, seeing as she's likely to need a lot of time off for medical reasons. Or because she might struggle to keep up with the physical/mental demands of the job due to her illness. I'm assuming the posters who gave reasons like these are going to be logically consistent no matter the specific nature of the medical condition, right..?

AskNotForWhomTheBellCurves · 13/04/2024 14:28

TitusMoan · 13/04/2024 14:09

What’s your thinking on hiring alcoholics (not those in recovery) ?

Not the person you're replying to, but if it was severe enough to affect their performance in the interview then I wouldn't hire them, on the basis that they didn't do well in the interview. If it wasn't, then I would hire them because presumably I'd have no way of knowing they were an alcoholic anyway. Not sure what the difficulty is there?

Arconialiving · 13/04/2024 14:31

MsMajeika · 13/04/2024 12:51

I don't know how to vote. Personally, no, I wouldn't. I would be worried that they wouldn't have the physical and mental energy to do the job and that they would need constant time off as a result of their illness.

This is probably discriminatory. I'm being brutally honest.

I feel the same.

Oblomov24 · 13/04/2024 14:37

We all deep down know the facts.
No business is going to hire anyone risky, if they can help it. Thats just good business, good business sense.

Employers interviewing weigh up all sorts of issues, experience, skills, how reliable candidate is, plus many other factors. It's extremely competitive, the job market. You have 2 equality good candidates. Are you going to hire 1? Or the other with a disability / health condition / MH issue / anorexia/ list of 100'd of issues. (And yes I myself have a health condition from birth). But we all know that it's sensible to hire employee 1. Why take the extra risk?

Isittimeformynapyet · 13/04/2024 14:48

hellnojuliet · 13/04/2024 12:56

Yes.
People can be very thin for multiple reasons. Are you sure she’s anorexic? She could be in recovery, have had cancer, gastrointestinal issues, thyroid etc etc.

You are saying though, that you won’t hire someone on the basis of their appearance. The cause of which it seems you are assuming. That is discrimination.

Who? The OP?

Presumably you've read Op's update by now.

What were you saying about assuming?

Smallyeti · 13/04/2024 14:52

I’d say it depends on how unwell you are and what the job is.

I felt freezing and very tired when I was anorexic and found it difficult to concentrate at times. Working full time was only possible as I had a low grade civil service job which was basically just copy typing and putting phone calls through. Everyone is different though and it affects people differently. If you feel physically and cognitively able to do the job consistently and don’t think you’re likely to need much time off, then that’s fine. If you look very unwell i do think interviewers might well not shortlist you as they might assume the worst about your suitability. It’s a horrible condition and really feel for you and anyone else living with it.

CountryMumof4 · 13/04/2024 14:56

Yes and I have previously - they were clearly the best candidate for the job. So long as you are able to do the job well and didn't have a concerning amount of absences, that shouldn't affect things.

As PP has mentioned, maybe highlight the fact that you haven't had absences in previous roles. Everyone has to be off occasionally anyway, due to illness or family commitments.

Good luck OP - I hope you get sorted with a job soon x

bonzaitree · 13/04/2024 15:03

Interesting how many people openly admit that they would breach the equalities act.

I wonder how they would feel if they were discriminated against when pregnant or if they had an accident.

wombat1a · 13/04/2024 15:05

Not a chance, my job would be to recommend or decide the best person for the job. If I suspected someone had anorexia then they automatically would not be the best person for the job in my opinion as I would be too concerned with the potential for being off sick/ill whatever. If we empolyed them and their time off became too much it would be an HR minefield with anti-discrimination rules so we wouldn't even consider them in the first place as out #1 candidate.

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