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to think the Carer's Allowance scandal shows the uncaringness of the DWP

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cakeorwine · 13/04/2024 08:17

In a nutshell - if you get Carer's Allowance, you are supposed to only claim it if you earn below a certain amount. If you go over that amount, you can't claim it.

If you go over that amount and don't tell the DWP, you have to pay it back. But say you went over by 30 p. you would have to pay back not 30p but ALL of it.

The DWP know if you have earnt over the amount. But they don't tell you. They let it build up. And then prosecute you.

‘They’re heartless’: how one woman fell victim to the carer’s allowance trap | Carers | The Guardian

"On weekends when her daughter stays with her father, Moon worked part-time at Tesco earning £9.50 an hour. This would comfortably keep her under the earnings threshold of £127 a week at the time, especially when deducting allowances for fuel and pension payments – or so she thought.
The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) contacted Moon in 2019 to say she had breached the earnings limit and would need to pay back every penny – or she would be taken to court.
Moon, terrified, contacted Citizens Advice for help. It analysed her payslips going back to July 2016, when she started work at Tesco, and found that – even on the strictest understanding of the DWP’s rules – she had exceeded the earnings limit by about £3 most of those weeks. Some weeks it was as little as 50p over.
She appealed for clemency but the DWP refused to budge. It refused her offer to pay back the amount she was not entitled to – about £800 over the course of three and a half years.
Instead, she would have to pay back every penny of carer’s allowance over that period – known as the DWP’s “cliff edge”. It amounted to £11,292.75 – plus an additional £50 civil penalty."

And the DWP response:

“Claimants have a responsibility to inform DWP of any changes in their circumstances that could impact their award, and it is right that we recover taxpayers’ money when this has not occurred.”

‘They’re heartless’: how one woman fell victim to the carer’s allowance trap

Karina Moon, who is sole carer for her daughter most of the week, was told she needed to repay £11,292.75 or be prosecuted for fraud

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/apr/12/how-one-woman-fell-victim-carers-allowance-trap-karina-moon

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Babyroobs · 27/04/2024 19:51

Headfirstintothewild · 27/04/2024 19:44

The carer’s element is never the equivalent amount to carer’s allowance.

No but it is in addition to standard element which is the basic amount for people to live off. It's not comparing like to like at all ??

Headfirstintothewild · 27/04/2024 19:53

Babyroobs · 27/04/2024 19:51

No but it is in addition to standard element which is the basic amount for people to live off. It's not comparing like to like at all ??

I know! I didn’t say it was comparing like for like or it wasn’t in additional to the standard element. My post was in response to the pp posting “If Carers' Allowance is only being deducted £1 for £1 from the UC of people who are receiving an equal carers' element of UC instead, then that is a reasonable.” I was saying it is never the equivalent amount.

EarlofShrewsbury · 27/04/2024 22:14

The carers element of UC is £198.31 per month.

Is not equal, it considerably less.

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