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Joe Wicks says junk food causes ADHD

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RiffRaffBananas · 12/04/2024 09:25

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13292511/amp/Joe-Wicks-blames-ultra-processed-junk-explosion-children-ADHD-reveals-ran-sugar-kid-thinks-love-Sunny-Delight-Wagon-Wheels-jam-sandwiches-caused-behavioural-issues.html

I politely disagree with Joe. I have a very health conscious friend who cooks from scratch, plenty of vegetables and a Mediterranean diet as recommended by all healthcare professionals and has two children. One has ADHD and one doesn’t.

Has Joe jumped the shark on this one?

Joe Wicks blames ultra-processed junk for explosion of kids with ADHD

The nation's favourite work-out guru, nicknamed the Body Coach warned 'every child' now appears to have an ADHD diagnosis.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13292511/amp/Joe-Wicks-blames-ultra-processed-junk-explosion-children-ADHD-reveals-ran-sugar-kid-thinks-love-Sunny-Delight-Wagon-Wheels-jam-sandwiches-caused-behavioural-issues.html

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JPGR · 12/04/2024 19:42

Samcro · 12/04/2024 09:28

he is a dip stick

He really is. As a kid of the sixties we grew up wagon wheels, instant whip, smash….dont think it caused more adhd.

RiffRaffBananas · 12/04/2024 20:21

I am checking in so that no one asks where is the OP are they ever coming back!

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RiffRaffBananas · 12/04/2024 20:28

My nephew has ADHD. He is fed a grain free junk free paleo diet. My SIL is very careful with the food she cooks: gluten free, no crap and everything wholesome and from scratch.

Parenting has enormous challenges. Food can exacerbate behaviours that are already there. Just like alcohol. Does alcohol cause ADHD?

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Kijuity · 12/04/2024 20:42

RiffRaffBananas · 12/04/2024 20:28

My nephew has ADHD. He is fed a grain free junk free paleo diet. My SIL is very careful with the food she cooks: gluten free, no crap and everything wholesome and from scratch.

Parenting has enormous challenges. Food can exacerbate behaviours that are already there. Just like alcohol. Does alcohol cause ADHD?

Off piste here but what does grain free mean?

crumblingschools · 12/04/2024 20:47

@RiffRaffBananas but he isn’t saying it causes it

Runningbird43 · 12/04/2024 20:49

RiffRaffBananas · 12/04/2024 20:28

My nephew has ADHD. He is fed a grain free junk free paleo diet. My SIL is very careful with the food she cooks: gluten free, no crap and everything wholesome and from scratch.

Parenting has enormous challenges. Food can exacerbate behaviours that are already there. Just like alcohol. Does alcohol cause ADHD?

Interesting. Does it help? What does he eat?

meat, fruit and vegetables? Dairy?

is it just grains she cuts out? Is there any basis or research indicating this diet is beneficial in adhd?

SmokedPaprikaPuffs · 12/04/2024 20:52

Does he think adhd is just children being high on sugar? So ignorant.

Calliopespa · 12/04/2024 20:53

Runningbird43 · 12/04/2024 20:49

Interesting. Does it help? What does he eat?

meat, fruit and vegetables? Dairy?

is it just grains she cuts out? Is there any basis or research indicating this diet is beneficial in adhd?

I was under the impression that children with adhd should limit saturated fat which must get tricky with paleo?

EricHebbornInItaly · 12/04/2024 21:04

I was brought up with a strictly organic and very low sugar diet. Have ADHD and dyslexia 🤔

dizzydizzydizzy · 12/04/2024 21:07

Does Joe still subscribe to the (disproven) theory that the MMR causes autism? A PT who I know who trained at the same place as
Joe believes this. 🙄

MrsTerryPratchett · 12/04/2024 21:09

rainraingoaway6 · 12/04/2024 09:35

I have ADHD and my mum brought me up on homemade dinners cooked from scratch naturally gluten free and no processed food or sugar.
Still very much got ADHD.

My mum used to make homemade 'ketchup' FFS. I didn't have any junk at all.

DD has proper home cooked everything.

The squirrels are in charge of both our brains. Joe Wicks is a wanker. Which DD will be ecstatic to hear because his lockdown YouTube which is forced her to do made her very angry.

Crystallizedring · 12/04/2024 21:14

BurntOutNurseryNurse · 12/04/2024 09:33

I politely disagree with Joe

I impolitely, rudely and fucking disrespectfully disagree with Joe and would like to tell him that he is an absolute tosser to suggest such shite.

I agree with you totally.
Always thought he was a twat and this confirms it.

Q2C4 · 12/04/2024 21:57

greasypolemonkeyman · 12/04/2024 11:44

I have bipolar and ADHD. All of my children have ADHD. I don't agree that processed food causes ADHD but I do know first and second hand that eating a clean diet, low in simple carbs and high in fat and veg heavy really helps the symptoms of both of my conditions. Sugar/bread and processed food causes my blood sugar to go all over the place and I get ratty and short fused. So do my kids.

But if I have a full English breakfast with mushrooms and tomatoes ( no bread), a chicken salad for lunch and maybe some soup for my evening meal with curfew and cream through the day then my mid OSS much more stable and I have a clarity that I don't have on toast/ sanidwhiches/ maccies.

I (genuinely) don't mean to overstep but, speaking as a diabetic, if you aren't diabetic & haven't been tested for diabetes, you might want to think about this if carbs cause your blood sugars to become volatile. In a non-diabetic they shouldn't go much over 7.8mmol/l even after a full meal.

RiffRaffBananas · 12/04/2024 23:01

Runningbird43 · 12/04/2024 20:49

Interesting. Does it help? What does he eat?

meat, fruit and vegetables? Dairy?

is it just grains she cuts out? Is there any basis or research indicating this diet is beneficial in adhd?

No dairy. This diet was implemented from birth. Foods they eat include meat,veg, fruit, quinoa (seed not grain) rice (so grain not wheat my bad) 85% chocolate which I think is important to highlight here (lighthearted).

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RiffRaffBananas · 12/04/2024 23:04

Also, diet was created before any diagnosis so it’s down to SIL’s beliefs but I support these because I get indigestion if I eat too much pasta/bread which is slightly beside but possibly related.

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Coincidentally · 13/04/2024 06:58

Everanewbie · 12/04/2024 15:52

My suspicion is that these very tame comments from JW touch a nerve with parents who feed their children junk food and really don't like the thought that this may unduly affect their behaviour and exacerbate (not cause) ADHD symptoms. They lash out at the person pointing out an uncomfortable truth rather than having an introspective moment to see if low hanging fruit may have a positive impact.

This
I work in school and a lot of parents are jumping on the bandwagon proclaiming ADHD because they want a label and an an excuse and medication rather than looking at their parenting and see first how to mitigate the symptoms with diet/boundaries on screen time/sleep etc. because that takes effort and patience.

ASighMadeOfStone · 13/04/2024 07:11

Coincidentally · 13/04/2024 06:58

This
I work in school and a lot of parents are jumping on the bandwagon proclaiming ADHD because they want a label and an an excuse and medication rather than looking at their parenting and see first how to mitigate the symptoms with diet/boundaries on screen time/sleep etc. because that takes effort and patience.

I hope your management team (and more importantly, your students and their families) don't know your opinions about this.

Actually, scrap that. I hope they find out.

You have no place working with children with additional needs. In my school you'd be well and truly on the radar.

(And @Everanewbie you can give over with your digs about parenting causing these issues and that anyone who's come across JW and his opinions on many things must have had a nerve touched. My child is 21 and at university. No SN. She hates fizzy drinks, always has. But I'm not a thick fuck who thinks that that's the reason she doesn't have ADHD.)

Coincidentally · 13/04/2024 07:46

Ah the eloquence of someone who refers to themselves as not being a ‘thick fuck’😂😂
As a teacher I have every sympathy for those with additional needs, but not at all for those lazy and selfish parents who put it all on the school/society/ anyone but themselves to parent their children and tend to their basic needs in nutrition and sleep.

Aishah231 · 13/04/2024 08:19

I'm sorry but diet does affect behaviour. ADD and ADHD is massively over diagnosed. I teach and meet lots of students with both - particularly ADHD. Most do just have a terrible diet and limited boundaries at home and so struggle to sit still and concentrate. Some seem to have something more genuinely affecting their ability to concentrate (I know that's not the only feature of ADHD). The issue is that the term is too broad.

Quatty · 13/04/2024 08:41

He’s should stick to teaching people how to do star jumps! He’s thick as mince …

greasypolemonkeyman · 13/04/2024 08:48

@Q2C4

There are three diabetics in my immediate family and I have done lots of research into diet and diabetes. In my dad's side, as a family we really don't function well on grains or anything that has gluten. Terrible keratosis Polaris, it's type gastric stuff, chronic heartburn etc. When I eat a clean diet like I describe, this does right down and my rheumatoid arthritis is easier to deal with as well. I've spoken to my Gp and rheumatologist and they are 100% happy with me carrying on the way I am with my diet. I also ferment my own sauerkraut and kimchi, grow my own mushrooms and bake my own sourdough weekly ( the only way I will eat any form of bread and it goes through autolyse and a long cold ferment to improve the dough so I can tolerate it). But I do get that petite shouldn't do serious diet changes on a whim.

ASighMadeOfStone · 13/04/2024 08:48

Coincidentally · 13/04/2024 07:46

Ah the eloquence of someone who refers to themselves as not being a ‘thick fuck’😂😂
As a teacher I have every sympathy for those with additional needs, but not at all for those lazy and selfish parents who put it all on the school/society/ anyone but themselves to parent their children and tend to their basic needs in nutrition and sleep.

Nobody has blamed the schools.
JW has (yet again) opened his trap and blamed parents.

(Teacher since 1994, and think that a lot of "teachers" on here can't possibly be, as their utterly transparent hatred of children and parents is an abomination- and I include those who are recently retrained and work in nice independent schools)

newnamechange98 · 13/04/2024 08:52

I don't really have an opinion on the actual subject but I think it's concerning the level of vitriol aimed at anyone who doesn't outright disagree with JW. I think it's symptomatic of a general increased polarisation in society. People are not going to change their opinion because of insults. That works for both sides of the debate.

Spendonsend · 13/04/2024 08:58

Coincidentally · 13/04/2024 06:58

This
I work in school and a lot of parents are jumping on the bandwagon proclaiming ADHD because they want a label and an an excuse and medication rather than looking at their parenting and see first how to mitigate the symptoms with diet/boundaries on screen time/sleep etc. because that takes effort and patience.

This is hilarious. The effort and patience required to go through the diagnosis process is monumental and in most areas includes so much scrutiny of your parenting and an awkward parenting course for either a full week, or a string of afternoons using up your annual leave - i cant see anyone doing it as the lazy option.
Plus once you have the diagnosis its not as if you dont have to parent the child. You just now know which strategies will work.

Not all people with adhd get medication anyway, and those that do tend to time it so the school gets the benefit of the bit of the day its working and the parents deal with the side effects and the time when its worn off.

VestibuleVirgin · 13/04/2024 09:00

And in the early 70s, Tom and Jerry cartoons made kids violent, in the 80s video nasties made kids violent, etc, etc.
Mr Wicks has no idea wtf he is talking about.