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Airbnb host check out demands - AIBU to ignore

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Senseonhorizons · 12/04/2024 08:17

Been staying in Airbnb for last 3 nights, out of many, many we have stayed in this is our worst experience. There are lots of positives about the place, however it is f'ing freezing. Non functional heating on one floor so bedrooms were 12 degrees and we were all so cold in the night and now are ill, may or may not be connected.

I did contact host re heating on arrival and was given a load of instructions that don't work.

I have now received list of tasks to do on check out, none mentioned in property listing. They include stripping off beds and taking all sheets and towels downstairs, emptying bins in kitchen and bathrooms and taking to bins half way down the lane.

I feel like f'off do it yourself. We paid enough for the place. I know people did it in covid with sheets etc, but there is absolutely no reason to now

AIBU to ignore their demands?

OP posts:
Mirabai · 17/04/2024 12:39

Elphame · 17/04/2024 11:57

Just thought I'd share a picture of the fridge as it was left the other day by some guests.

It had to be stripped out and completely bleached, including that water collecting tray underneath as that was also full of bloody water.

That was of course on top of the regular cleaning and the hour it took to sort out the bins as food waste had been put in with the recycling and the waste contractors won't accept unsorted waste in Wales now.

Sometimes we need every second of the changeover window.

Luckily most of our guests are lovely but some seem to really enjoy making work for my cleaners. If you think you are getting back at the owners you really aren't. It's the cleaners who have to deal with it. I pay well above minimum wage and employ my own staff but many owners use agency cleaners who pay NMW.

You could introduce a fine for non-differentiated waste. In Tuscany the local council fine for un-sorted waste 350 EUR. That concentrates guests’ minds wonderfully and no-one has actually incurred the fine.

OVienna · 17/04/2024 12:43

RogueFemale · 16/04/2024 20:53

I'm an Airbnb host of 10 years experience.

I assure you guest reviews for hosts/listing are genuine.

The reviews which hosts leave for guests are, however, questionable. We're pretty much obliged to say nice stuff even about shitty guests.

I own a cottage too and surely you don't really believe this doesn't work both ways?

We've had great reviews and a few comments over the years I'd roll my eyes at. But such is life.

OVienna · 17/04/2024 12:44

BeachBeerBbq · 16/04/2024 18:08

The funny part is the hotels are NOT 5x airbnb anymore...

This.

Mirabai · 17/04/2024 12:47

OVienna · 17/04/2024 12:43

I own a cottage too and surely you don't really believe this doesn't work both ways?

We've had great reviews and a few comments over the years I'd roll my eyes at. But such is life.

No it doesn’t cut both ways. You can leave poor reviews on listing sites for hosts, but the host is limited in what they can say as a review or in response.

Needanadultgapyear · 17/04/2024 12:57

As an Air BnB host it is an annex on my house which I also use for family, what I would like is more transparency on the site about cleaning fees. I do not charge a cleaning fee as I feel my price should be inclusive of cleaning, I do charge a small amount for additional guests to cover the additional washing and bed changing. I think it should be easier to see an all inclusive price earlier in the booking process - really at the comparison point. As it is very easy to choose what seems a more economical option that then hits you with a massive cleaning fee.
All I ask my guests to do is to separate their recycling into one other container and then we place in the correct receptacle.

Trainingfairy · 17/04/2024 13:03

Pretty standard stuff tbf and if you don't do it, you only satisfy yourself. So don't get mad - get even. The way to make your point is a review on Air BnB; potential customers usually read them in advance and most wouldn't want to stay somewhere cold as well as have a reasonable request ignored. You might also want to leave a note for the owners to let them know you are leaving this review; you never know, it might make them feel a bit repentant and they offer some kind of compensation.

Onthehuntstill · 17/04/2024 13:08

RogueFemale · 16/04/2024 22:00

@Onthehuntstill & @Whatafliberty I'm an Airbnb host and it's really not helpful to strip the beds.

Is that because you'd like to re use the bedding? Just guessing as I genuinely can't fathom why you'd not want it otherwise. It is saving you a job and I can't see a reason why it wouldn't be helpful but please do enlighten me. I've been to many where it's asked for. Why don't you like it?

Elphame · 17/04/2024 13:10

Mirabai · 17/04/2024 12:39

You could introduce a fine for non-differentiated waste. In Tuscany the local council fine for un-sorted waste 350 EUR. That concentrates guests’ minds wonderfully and no-one has actually incurred the fine.

Edited

A fair number here think it is beneath them to even take the bins out!

I can be hit with a £300 fixed penalty fine and if I am then you can be sure that the guests will be paying it via the courts if necessary.

BobLemon · 17/04/2024 14:12

Onthehuntstill · 17/04/2024 13:08

Is that because you'd like to re use the bedding? Just guessing as I genuinely can't fathom why you'd not want it otherwise. It is saving you a job and I can't see a reason why it wouldn't be helpful but please do enlighten me. I've been to many where it's asked for. Why don't you like it?

It’s been explained by multiple posters. It’s so the linen can be easily checked for stains. If it’s scrunched up, they just have to spread it back out on the bed.

OVienna · 17/04/2024 16:05

Mirabai · 17/04/2024 12:47

No it doesn’t cut both ways. You can leave poor reviews on listing sites for hosts, but the host is limited in what they can say as a review or in response.

Edited

Oh interesting. We have never gone through AirBnB ourselves but the holiday cottage company sometimes outsourced to them.

Nicparke · 17/04/2024 19:34

Senseonhorizons · 12/04/2024 08:17

Been staying in Airbnb for last 3 nights, out of many, many we have stayed in this is our worst experience. There are lots of positives about the place, however it is f'ing freezing. Non functional heating on one floor so bedrooms were 12 degrees and we were all so cold in the night and now are ill, may or may not be connected.

I did contact host re heating on arrival and was given a load of instructions that don't work.

I have now received list of tasks to do on check out, none mentioned in property listing. They include stripping off beds and taking all sheets and towels downstairs, emptying bins in kitchen and bathrooms and taking to bins half way down the lane.

I feel like f'off do it yourself. We paid enough for the place. I know people did it in covid with sheets etc, but there is absolutely no reason to now

AIBU to ignore their demands?

As an airbnb host myself, I would never ask this of you.

I'd have radiators delivered and try to help with the heating.

My check out asks are to just take the kitchen bins out and put the dishwasher on. That's all.

WitsEnd10 · 17/04/2024 22:41

Notcontent · 15/04/2024 13:06

Are you suggesting it’s too warm for heating in the U.K.? I am in London so obviously warmer here than other parts but even here it was chilly last week. Weekend was lovely weather - almost like summer on Saturday - but today it’s cold again. It’s 11 degrees but feels colder in the wind and my heating is back on!!!

I guess we must not feel the cold as much. Anything over about 10 degrees and I’m in a t shirt outside. I haven’t had the heating on since January, and even then sporadically.

NavyBee · 18/04/2024 07:21

I’ve stayed in several airbnbs here in New Zealand and in England. Some ask for tasks like strip beds and some don’t but expectations are clearly communicated at check in time. If not asked we don’t strip beds, we do leave kitchens and bathrooms clean and leave no dirty dishes. Do take rubbish out. It’s not good hosting to give instructions at the end. The heating is another thing and given that you reported it and they didn’t sort it I would reflect that in my review.

Snoopsnoggysnog · 18/04/2024 08:42

WitsEnd10 · 17/04/2024 22:41

I guess we must not feel the cold as much. Anything over about 10 degrees and I’m in a t shirt outside. I haven’t had the heating on since January, and even then sporadically.

Oh come on
there’s always so much competitive under-heating on mumsnet
I’m in the south east and its 5 degrees right now.

ellyeth · 18/04/2024 09:50

I would normally do that anyway, just to help. But in the circumstances you describe I would not wish to be helpful and would object to being given orders in this way.

I have never used Airbnb and would be reluctant to do so if they can arbitrarily take money from an account because there has been some sort of dispute.

NoisySnail · 18/04/2024 10:41

You are always in a t shirt when it is 10 degrees! Are you one of those northern lasses who go out on a snowy evening wearing a short skirt and a crop top?

shearwater2 · 18/04/2024 10:45

I would always strip beds and empty bins regardless of the experience. Be the better person. You can still leave a review commenting on the heating issue.

Toastyfeetbythefire · 18/04/2024 11:11

This thread has been so enlightening. I’ve always been a bed stripper, in the belief that I was helping the host. I will stop doing that going forwards!

Parkodeparko · 18/04/2024 14:17

Whether I'm traveling for work or leisure I'm not going to strip beds or empty rubbish in paid accommodation.

I always leave it tidy however I'm paying for the service and I won't spend my time doing house keeping.

NoisySnail · 18/04/2024 16:00

I totally agree. Accommodation is not cheap in Britain, no way am I doing housework.
Years ago I used to stay in YHA where you had to do a chore. The point was to keep the stay dirt cheap, and it was dirt cheap.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 18/04/2024 20:32

I just appreciate it when they do leave the place reasonable but if they don't, my cleaners will deal with it

I think a lot of owners' definition of reasonable and mine are different.

Mine means that I don't leave any mess, rubbish is in bins and not left around the house (eg crisp packets on the floor) and nothing horrible to find in the loo(s).

Owners' definition appears to mean that I have to go round emptying bins and stripping beds and doing a load of cleaning myself. Why do I have to do that when I've paid a lot of rent and a cleaning fee? For me that is taking the mickey. I am paying for the service, the owner is making the profit on it. So they (or their cleaners) do the cleaning. Not me.

enchantedsquirrelwood · 18/04/2024 20:34

shearwater2 · 18/04/2024 10:45

I would always strip beds and empty bins regardless of the experience. Be the better person. You can still leave a review commenting on the heating issue.

Why does someone have to be the better person when they are paying for the service.

Do you also sweep the floor in the hairdresser after they've cut your hair?

If not, why not? iI would make you the "better person".

enchantedsquirrelwood · 18/04/2024 20:37

A fair number here think it is beneath them to even take the bins out

As a guest, yes. I am quite capable of putting the right rubbish in the right bin INSIDE the house though as long as the recycling rules are clearly stated.

outyoctober · 19/04/2024 07:25

NavyBee · 18/04/2024 07:21

I’ve stayed in several airbnbs here in New Zealand and in England. Some ask for tasks like strip beds and some don’t but expectations are clearly communicated at check in time. If not asked we don’t strip beds, we do leave kitchens and bathrooms clean and leave no dirty dishes. Do take rubbish out. It’s not good hosting to give instructions at the end. The heating is another thing and given that you reported it and they didn’t sort it I would reflect that in my review.

'Instructions' should be given on the website page - before booking - that it's expected guests will strip the beds, etc. I don't want to be told at book-in. I'd like to know that before forking out my hard-earned cash tbh - and have the option to give it a wide berth.

Mummaoffour1234 · 19/04/2024 15:31

I think it’s a bit of cheek to ask people to strip the beds on a holiday rental but I always do it (I used to do a change over in a holiday cottage as a student and would have appreciated it) and i think it’s standard now thanks to Air BnB. Emptying the bins is also standard and that one is pretty reasonable in my opinion. I’d follow the instructions to keep your deposit safe and protect your guest rating.

It’s not clear whether you alerted the owner to the fact that the instructions didn’t work re sorting the heating out. Things break, it’s annoying, but the owner should be updated and allowed time to put right. If this impacted the holiday then make a request for a partial refund. As others say it’s separate to the check out requests.